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Jan 18, 2015 17:09:49 GMT
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Great looking truck, lots of fun to be had in that!
personally I'm not bothered in the slightest about period styled cars, must have the correct this and the original that, seen lots of snobbery on other forums regarding traditional styling ect.
these cars are nearly 100 years old and the vintage speed equipment well over 50. Living in the uk it's near impossible to get certain parts nevermind afford them when they do come around. Just make it you own and get out and enjoy, that's my take on It all.
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Jan 19, 2015 22:12:23 GMT
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But that's a complete contradiction... It's not traditionally styled with radials. so you don't think the word "styled" can mean to mimic something, but not be that something? Christ I've got N50's on my daily cos that's what it would of had when new in 73. gratz |
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Jan 20, 2015 15:57:47 GMT
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But that's a complete contradiction... It's not traditionally styled with radials. so you don't think the word "styled" can mean to mimic something, but not be that something? Christ I've got N50's on my daily cos that's what it would of had when new in 73. gratz No. I think if something is traditionally styled then it is styled in a traditional way. If it isn't (ie with radials) then in my opinion it is a traditional parody...maybe a caricature, a pastiche. A gallimaufry goulash, a mishmash melange if you will. I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with 'gratz'. |
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+1 for the radials - no offence!  |
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So because it hasnt got the right tires its a mismash pos...
Thanks for telling me.
Always fun if people talk down you car on something small as tires because they don't have the correct thread.
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Sorry I fear my post may have read the wrong way - if I owned her she'd be on radials every time and while others might prefer crossplies that doesn't justify a lambasting... Exquisite truck, by the way Matt (59 Country Sedan reshod from crossplies to radials! |
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No problem, i didnt mean it in your direction. An opinion is ok thats why we post our projects to get input. I follow your threads about the us cars and enjoy them.
I mean people like fannywhacker who i guess take pleasure putting other peoples car down
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he isnt putting your car down, hes just saying(quite correctly) you cannnot call a hot rod with radials traditional, or traditionally styled.
a traditional car is 100% period perfect- no radials, coilovers, disc brakes, alternators, all parts from the correct period etc. etc.
a traditional styled car looks like a period correct car at first glance, but will have modern parts tucked away underneath- coilovers, servo brakes, modern rear axle, etc. they will still have crossplies as they are such a huge part of the look.
the fact you can tell from 200 yards or more its on radials, (mostly due to their short aspect ratio, they just look too small side on) rather than crossplies precludes it from ever being either of the above.
if you want it to be traditional fit crossplies. if you don't care about it being traditional or think radials are 'better', thats fine, just expect anyone who knows anything about hot rods to pick you up on it when you try telling them its traditional, as people have done here.
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Jan 21, 2015 10:34:53 GMT
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I'm not really part of things more have a life busy day to day stuff so i'm not part of the gang or a scene i'm not VW or ford, low rider or traditional rod I am envious of most of the builds on the site... BUT I've read the what made you join retro rides in the first place thread and it seams most people came here and stayed because of the love of all cars and the open mindedness (possibly not how you spell that if it is a real word) of the other people on here. To me suddenly people are taking them selves a bit to seriously who cares what tyres are on it its a 1930's truck really are you mental its got the wrong tyres... if its had welding done its probably
done with new metal and not from the correct period as well and the paint won't be lead based either.
I don't want to rant or end up in a bedroom warrior slanging match isn't this site built on say something constructive and nice or don't comment at all.
65mustang that's a top truck you own there I hope your shacking your head and laughing, muttering to yourself
"wrong tyres"
I feel wrong posting this as I am not part of a scene so may be speaking out of place but kind of makes me pleased i'm not part of it as a lot of people put on here that they left other sites as got fed up with being told what they should do with there vehicles and its wrong if its in a different style.
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Jan 21, 2015 10:35:12 GMT
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I'm surprised (& disappointed) the hot rod fraternity has such strict rules to be honest, considering the humble roots... Modifying cars to make them lighter and faster with the best technology available at the time has now become a tick list of having the "right bits" with a healthy dose of snobbery thrown in. Playing devil's advocate Dez, how does a turbo diesel fit into traditionally styled? Another example is the VHRA rule where your car has to be American. What's wrong with an English Ford Y hot rod, or an Austin? This is the UK after all, not SoCal. I get the whole "rules is rules" malarky, but these attitudes are very exclusionary, hardly in keeping with the original hot rodders mentality of "what rules?" EDIT: oh yeah, 65mustang, loving the truck |
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Jan 21, 2015 10:35:28 GMT
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Well I will be following this.
Whatever tyres you use
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Jan 21, 2015 10:38:33 GMT
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ignore what I put and read what quickrack1 and mylittletony just posted they said it better
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Jan 21, 2015 11:13:11 GMT
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Playing devil's advocate Dez, how does a turbo diesel fit into traditionally styled? Another example is the VHRA rule where your car has to be American. What's wrong with an English Ford Y hot rod, or an Austin? This is the UK after all, not SoCal. I get the whole "rules is rules" malarky, but these attitudes are very exclusionary, hardly in keeping with the original hot rodders mentality of "what rules?" it doesnt  part of the reason i didn't run at pendine. but I'm just as likely as anyone to point out my truck isn't traditional. i keep getting told its 'too good to be a rat rod' or its 'traditional styled' when really it isn't. the next one will be, but itll still probably be turbodiesel. its just other peoples perception of it, and how well i've hidden the bits that aren't right. apart from the engine  the VHRA rules are always going to be contentious with certain people, but i understand why they're so strict. as soon as you start to muddy the waters, everything ends up going diluted as theres the whole 'oh if you let him in with that you gotta let me in with this' issue. then you just end up like every other hot rod club and forum in the country, with a load of yankee wonnabees in musclecars, farm trucks and day vans, more interested in line dancing and playing dress-up than real hot rodders building proper cars. everyone involved knows what they're trying to evoque, and why non-american cars arent acceptable. the VHRA isnt anywhere near as elitist and exclusionary as outsiders seem to think. to be honest, since joining ive met some really nice people wh've really gone out their way to help me, and my cars arent exactly straight up VHRA material, they're on the fringes of acceptability. |
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Jan 21, 2015 11:17:09 GMT
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I'm glad to see its only the "Hotrod" community here thats so snob about correct parts etc.
To be honest Dez i followed your projects with intrest, while they wont be taken seriously by most hotrod people. I always respected the choice of people what they do with their car its the result that counts, but of all people i never taught dat you were the kind of man who bitches about correct parts...
But i hope the wood i'm going to use for the bed is old enough... would be a shame if the trees where to young to use.
But enough about it, for the people who don't care about wich tires i will keep it updated. For the rest go build/buy your own and put the correct tires under it.
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Jan 21, 2015 11:45:21 GMT
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Beautiful truck mate! I bet you can't wait to see it with a blower on it!
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Jan 22, 2015 11:20:39 GMT
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I think there seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding here. I wasn't bitching, neither was Dez and what Dez said a couple of posts up is spot on: he isnt putting your car down, hes just saying(quite correctly) you cannnot call a hot rod with radials traditional, or traditionally styled.
a traditional car is 100% period perfect- no radials, coilovers, disc brakes, alternators, all parts from the correct period etc. etc.
a traditional styled car looks like a period correct car at first glance, but will have modern parts tucked away underneath- coilovers, servo brakes, modern rear axle, etc. they will still have crossplies as they are such a huge part of the look.
the fact you can tell from 200 yards or more its on radials, (mostly due to their short aspect ratio, they just look too small side on) rather than crossplies precludes it from ever being either of the above.
if you want it to be traditional fit crossplies. if you don't care about it being traditional or think radials are 'better', thats fine, just expect anyone who knows anything about hot rods to pick you up on it when you try telling them its traditional, as people have done here.Have a look at the recent thread here on TROG, have a look at the Pendine photos - these have a strict criteria for traditional cars and radials don't meet that criteria. That is all and it is not to say whether your car is good or bad it just doesn't meet a 'traditional' criteria. No different to turning up at Crufts with a mongrel. Anyway, as a way of getting this back on track I wonder if you have seen these www.cokertire.com/catalog/product/view/id/3862/s/american-classic-bias-profile-radials/category/2/ ? |
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don't have seen those before ! Could be an option when the tires worn out. But the biggest thing is that they should be good for driving... Plan to do alot of roadtrips with it.
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58 Plymouth Belvedere (Christine)
05 Dodge Ram 1500 HEMI
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the only thing I would change is.....the owner it should be mine...your a lucky man
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Feb 24, 2015 12:10:50 GMT
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Epic!!! That's cooler than a Penguins cool bits!
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