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With regards to all this, I think the ultimate question is why do people compromise on their hobbies (not just cars) to get on with life? Why don't they compromise on their life for a change, "grown up" life is largely dull anyway! If buying a load of old cars means I can't afford to buy new living room curtains every 2 years, so be it, curtains are rubbish. Are you married? |
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^^^was about to ask that. I'm currently slugging it out with my German lass - she's going spare that I've constantly got something to do with the cars...... It is actually leading to 'I'm leaving' threats - something I have to decide - how long b4 she tries to put a permanent stop to my love of the retros and classics or will she learn to live with it? I'm sure some of those who 'turn away' have been in similar situations and have opted for the family options. When I find a woman who'll accept the rusty tin I'll be a happy man! ;D ( maybe  ) |
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May 30, 2007 10:00:00 GMT
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With regards to all this, I think the ultimate question is why do people compromise on their hobbies (not just cars) to get on with life? Why don't they compromise on their life for a change, "grown up" life is largely dull anyway! If buying a load of old cars means I can't afford to buy new living room curtains every 2 years, so be it, curtains are rubbish. Are you married? I drive a beige Charmant with lace seat covers, what do you think? I'm hoping one will turn up who has no interest in home furnishings, fashion or style and considers a good weekend to be tinkering with a car then watching old episodes of Open All Hours whilst drinking. But with that criteria they might be a bit weird looking, so that puts me right off now. Urgh! |
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May 30, 2007 10:11:31 GMT
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"does house buying end car action?" thats what I think, for most that morgage takes up the slack of the cash you once had so now they have other things to spend it on and a partner that says it our mony, and WE shouldent wast money on things we don't need. I think you hit the nail on the head there. people need a sense of identity, to stand out/ attract a partner whatever, when they are renting/living with their folks their car is the biggest way they can show their identity to others, when they can afford a house the house becomes the biggest part of their identity and they set about modifing that (fresh paint/curtains/garden whatever) instead. |
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May 30, 2007 11:14:50 GMT
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"does house buying end car action?" thats what I think, for most that morgage takes up the slack of the cash you once had so now they have other things to spend it on and a partner that says it our mony, and WE shouldent wast money on things we don't need. I think you hit the nail on the head there. people need a sense of identity, to stand out/ attract a partner whatever, when they are renting/living with their folks their car is the biggest way they can show their identity to others, when they can afford a house the house becomes the biggest part of their identity and they set about modifing that (fresh paint/curtains/garden whatever) instead. This is thinking is spot on. Cars were the be all and end all to me before getting the house. Now I'm more interested in the decking my back garden than getting my car on the deck. |
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May 30, 2007 11:17:36 GMT
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^^^was about to ask that. I'm currently slugging it out with my German lass - she's going spare that I've constantly got something to do with the cars...... It is actually leading to 'I'm leaving' threats - something I have to decide - how long b4 she tries to put a permanent stop to my love of the retros and classics or will she learn to live with it? I'm sure some of those who 'turn away' have been in similar situations and have opted for the family options. When I find a woman who'll accept the rusty tin I'll be a happy man! ;D ( maybe ) Hmm, if she's threatening to leave its probably something more than just the cars. You need to redress this asap, thaw out that Walls Vienetta and buy her a copy of OK on the way home - that should sort it. |
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May 30, 2007 11:31:35 GMT
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This is thinking is spot on. Cars were the be all and end all to me before getting the house. Now I'm more interested in the decking my back garden than getting my car on the deck. I think you are on the cusp of 'the change', what with the non-modifying and now this 'gardening' lark it may even be too late. I've got a house, a garden, children and everything - but I'd still rather have a slammed car than a patio! Admittedly I may have to compromise to please the other people in my life, but to do it deliberately? ;D ;D |
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May 30, 2007 11:32:57 GMT
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Women - I ask "why does it matter?" If they can not come up with a good enough reason then the real reason is that they want someone who's goig to follow the Ikea route and seek to change you into this. My wife is very patient. Her arguements are around cost and time. These are mostly legitimate. Relationshiops are built on compromise. Women will always want you to compromise further. And they are smart, some of them will go along with the old-tat car junk and stuff for a while until you are suckered into the relationship thing and then start making sneaky intrusions into your lifestyle. I actually fitted a shower and central heating in my last house just to get Em to move in. Real men may enjoy cold baths in the winter but that gets you very little lady-lovin' I enjoyed living a very spartan lifestyle So she moves in and then its "I don't think you should park cars in the street" and "You waste too much money on lockups" and so forth. I actually came up with the "no cars on the lawn" rule at the new house. I bought my first house because I couldn't rent one with a big enough garage...  Priorities... |
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May 30, 2007 11:49:39 GMT
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Tarka - what can I say - she's German, I'm English...... she went beserk after a mutual friend emailed the banned bottle of britain advertising campaign...... Spitfirre beer I believe. Led to the whole our sit-coms are exported all over the world, you ain't got one without a mullet present type of discussion....... ha ha As Alistair just commented - she was all in for most of the last 5yrs - just recently put her foot down and caused issues. It definitely is the compromise scenario but she hasn't a clue on that one ( here we go with the German references again........ ) Your life is impacted by everything and everyone around you - be it subtle or a hammer in the testes....... we are products of our environment - whether conforming or rebelling. The final decision is always personal and the buck stops here  |
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May 30, 2007 11:59:54 GMT
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I guess I'm quite lucky really, just turned 30 and didn't need to persude my wife to let me buy any of the cars we own, she wanted a Beetle to start with and we bought one, when the daily broke she wanted a Golf and we got it, then we chatted about a camper and got one, each time she has had a huge part in the choice of vehicle. My dad used to be into his cars, driving Anglias, Escorts, Minis and Imps but only because it was all they could afford, now he's gone down the comfort and reliable route with a standard Clio, he has different priorities in life now he's retired and grubbing round under the bonnet or forking out for a mechanic isn't high on his list, saying that his Clio and my Golf both needed a service, MOT and cambelt change last week, mine was well under £200, his almost £500..... I'd like to think in years to come when we have a family that I'll still be able to afford/justify the fleet but who knows how your priorities change over time? |
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May 30, 2007 12:13:50 GMT
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to be fair if I'd had a better track record of having cars on the road, and completing projects on time and on budget in the last 2 years or so I think she'd have more confidence in me. But since we put the house up for sale I have let other priorities take over, - packing up, selling excess cars before we moved, clearing my lockups, getting the new house sorted, getting the garage up, then moving the computer and all in to the other spare room, turning the small spare room into a nursury, changing nappies, etc.
I've left the cars firmly as #8935 priority on the list and now I am rewarded with "your stupid cars don't even work". Unfortunately the "they would do if I hadn;t spent the last 18 months - 2 years doing other stuff" is met with "maybe you don't have the time to devote to this hobby any more and you should get rid"
Hmmmm..... I can see the logic, but its lady-logic and as a guy I am impervious to it.
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May 30, 2007 13:04:13 GMT
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Not that I'd ever admit to siding with a female's logic, but I have to admit I prefer driving my car to fixing it. That's just between us here, right?
Or fixing it when I choose, not when the car chooses. For example, a quiet afternoon spannering in front of the garage with the birds tweeting in the blue sky above is much better than spending 2 hours trying to get 1 caliper bolt off in the rain when you have to have the car tomorrow.
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May 30, 2007 13:12:45 GMT
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^^^^ yup. But guess which way round it usually is...
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May 30, 2007 13:14:26 GMT
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Female logic............now there's an oxymoron!
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May 30, 2007 21:23:48 GMT
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I think you hit the nail on the head there. people need a sense of identity, to stand out/ attract a partner whatever, when they are renting/living with their folks their car is the biggest way they can show their identity to others, when they can afford a house the house becomes the biggest part of their identity and they set about modifing that (fresh paint/curtains/garden whatever) instead. Disagree slightly with the above statement. When we lived in rented places, the money was always going in someone else's pocket. And it's more than you lob out on a mortgage anyway, in alot of cases. When we bought our house, we were paying nearly £100 a month less for nearly twice the space. So OBV at the first opportunity I spunked the money on a retromobile. Very mature! ;D On the other side of the fence, I can see how you get ground down or knocked out of the whole car thing. You go through the 'old cars' because it's what you can afford, then something flash, then something more flash, then OOPS! You need a car for the small people and suddenly it's not you making the decisions any more. I have a lot of mates who are in exactly that position right now. I have a 'milestone' birthday next year.  I have a mortgage and two kids and a dog etc. I AM Joe Average really, but to those fat kids selling Zafira's I say YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE, PUNKS!!!! Much as I like pootling about in Er Indoors' Focus which is lovely and air conditioned and squishy, there's nothing quite like arriving at your destination frightened, sweaty and with crippling lower back pain. ;D |
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there's nothing quite like arriving at your destination frightened, sweaty and with crippling lower back pain. ;D Never has the nail/head interface been so eloquently captured.  I'm lucky. SWMBO is the major breadwinner in our house and always has been, and having no rugrats (through choice rather than through circumstance) gives me the time and money (though not as much of either as I'd like) to indulge myself. Vicky has absolutely no interest in cars whatsoever, she is quite happy to spend her own money on a nearly-new one every 3 or 4 years and as much as I spent buying The Scrote on a yearly service. She doesn't even complain (well, not much anyway) when, as has happened before, I've had two or even three pieces of immobile tat at the front of the house and we end up sharing her car for a couple of weeks while I get them/it sorted. I HAVE spotted her skimming through the numerous back-issues of Ol' Skool Rodz and Car Kulture Deluxe in the lounge of late.....I wonder. I know how lucky I am, and it's just one of the reasons why I love her to bits. ;D |
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This is thinking is spot on. Cars were the be all and end all to me before getting the house. Now I'm more interested in the decking my back garden than getting my car on the deck. I think you are on the cusp of 'the change', what with the non-modifying and now this 'gardening' lark it may even be too late. I've got a house, a garden, children and everything - but I'd still rather have a slammed car than a patio! Admittedly I may have to compromise to please the other people in my life, but to do it deliberately? ;D ;D LOL I'm certainly on the turn I'm afraid. Nothing modified seems to excite me anymore  |
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May 31, 2007 11:58:48 GMT
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I like gardening. But I like cars more. I like gardening because its a means to an end. I like the house to look nice, I like the neighbours not to complain, and I like my mates to think our gaff is nice when they come round for a barbeque or whatever. SWMBO also likes it done. But I'm right into it, choising plants and layouts for borders, cutting turf to reshape edges, buying special tools to do certain things, learning the correct way to prune a Mock Orange as opposed to how you prune a rose bush...
and having a 1960s petrol mower FTW (its broke down with a fuel problem a couple of weeks back though!!!)
MWF - hold onto your mojo! Or at least onto your Sierra... Even if it ends up being little more than a garage ornament gatehring dust, never cut all ties by getting rid...
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May 31, 2007 12:09:38 GMT
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MWF, are you sure that not just your style though, that XR4i is so clean and well modded its subtle and looks factory but better. i'm not mad on XR4's standard, but yours works very well, to a non car geek, they would just think it was cherished and polished next on the cards is a Mitsubishi 4x4 pickup? they are factory modded virtually anyway. and if you muck up teh bed with garden crud, good on ya. Intesity of actions and projects seem to dim with age, but quality and decisions, get better IMO |
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