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May 27, 2007 17:05:40 GMT
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I have just bought this as a cheap daily runaround   as can be seen from the pics the lacquer is coming off from the basecoat on the bonnet and the passenger wing. The rest of the car is fine. Whats the best way to remove the lacquer hopefully without damaging the basecoat so I can just re-lacquer. I don't really want to respray the bonnet and wing as the rest of the paint has faded a little so it will be a pig to match. I was thinking of 1200 or 1500 wet and dry and just take car not to take off too much of the red |
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May 27, 2007 17:24:32 GMT
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Can't you just feather the edges of the lacquer where it's peeled off with 1200, then relacquer over the top of it all? The lacquer is usually thicker than the basecoat isn't it so I think it might be tricky to get rid of it all without any red rubbing through. Or matt black the bonnet  |
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Never trust a man
Who names himself Trevor.
Or one day you might find
He's not a real drug dealer.
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May 27, 2007 17:36:17 GMT
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think you'll have to flat it back to colour with fine wet and dry. I'm nolaquer expert, so I await someone else to put it straight. or put odd white panels on it and get some "fuerwehr" graphics made up  |
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May 27, 2007 18:06:24 GMT
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Can't you just feather the edges of the lacquer where it's peeled off with 1200, then relacquer over the top of it all? The lacquer is usually thicker than the basecoat isn't it so I think it might be tricky to get rid of it all without any red rubbing through. Or matt black the bonnet Be so much easier if I could. The paint is pink under the lacquer so the lacqer needs to be removed fully, paint rubbed down a bit and then lacquered |
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May 27, 2007 18:24:21 GMT
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Stand on the roof and pee all over it so it really gets under, fades it out and stains it nicely.
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May 27, 2007 18:44:18 GMT
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Can't you just feather the edges of the lacquer where it's peeled off with 1200, then relacquer over the top of it all? The lacquer is usually thicker than the basecoat isn't it so I think it might be tricky to get rid of it all without any red rubbing through. Or matt black the bonnet Be so much easier if I could. The paint is pink under the lacquer so the lacqer needs to be removed fully, paint rubbed down a bit and then lacquered Surely if you wet and dry the pink paint, it'll take it back to red (just as t-cut does)... then the bonnet won't match just as thought you'd sprayed it red. |
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Never trust a man
Who names himself Trevor.
Or one day you might find
He's not a real drug dealer.
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loon
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May 27, 2007 21:57:43 GMT
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if it was my car i would use a pressure washer to remove the rest of the lacquer. as it is peeling already this should be easy. then use 1200 to key the red base coat and to remove the stains that may be there being carefull not to rub through wash off all residue mask it off and relacquer.... jobs a goodun... l :on |
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what the fcuk have you done lately
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Be so much easier if I could. The paint is pink under the lacquer so the lacqer needs to be removed fully, paint rubbed down a bit and then lacquered Surely if you wet and dry the pink paint, it'll take it back to red (just as t-cut does)... then the bonnet won't match just as thought you'd sprayed it red. The rest of the car has faded a little over time but not a lot, the lacquer on the bonnet and the passenger wing all seems to have lifted slightly and allowed the paint to oxidise. I have tried a little t-cut on some of the exposed paint and its returned to a very similar colour to the rest of the car. Its really wierd how its happened there but the rest of the car is fine. The bloke I have got it off has had the car since new (and its got FSH) but I don't think he has ever cleaned the car once (inside or out) plus its been parked under trees and the roof and bootlid have loads of very small black pits in the lacquer, but these are T-cutting out fine. Good idea with the jet wash, I think it will work on the bonnet but might struggle on the wing. I will give that ago later. |
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Stiff
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May 28, 2007 10:29:32 GMT
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Loon's got the right idea there. Usually if the lacquer is peeling it's due to bad prep (not keyed enough) and it just keeps shelling back so a pressure wash would take it all off down to the base red ready to flat with 1200/1600 w+d and re-lacquer. Thing is, if it's the original factory finish (which is strange, as it shouldn't do this) then it won't come off that easily and you'll have to flat it all smooth to feather it in. Personally if it was me I would just flat it smooth anyway then flash it over with a solid colour as it doesn't look like a metallic (Henna Red?) so no real need for lacquer. 2K and celly are still available for the time being |
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May 28, 2007 10:52:54 GMT
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its hellrot, henna's too old and orangey  e36s often suffer with bonnet paint probs, mainly solid colours. |
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May 28, 2007 11:33:07 GMT
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Easier to see what I mean on these pics    It only affects the bonnet and wing and I thought it had maybe been resprayed and prepped badly as Stiff said. But according to the owner (who has had it from new) its never been done. Although I don't know the bloke he seems really genuine and honest and he has history and receipts for absolutely everything, and mechanically it seems perfect which is surprising for the mileage 237K. After 10 minutes with the pressure wash its like this  After 30 minutes   Very impressed, so thanks for that Loon. I reckon a good hour or so will have it all removed |
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loon
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May 28, 2007 22:53:51 GMT
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what the fcuk have you done lately
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Best laid plans and all that. The pressure washer removed around 95% of the laquer, so started trying to remove the rest with 1200 wet and dry however as soon as I started the red started rubbing through so decided I would have to bite the bullet and respray the front. Nipped out yesterday morning and bought 2 litres of `Hellrot` (lovely name for a colour) while I was waiting for the last coat of paint to dry on craig`s monza then brought that in the garage and rubbed it down and gave it a few coats of primer last night.  Then rubbed down and sprayed this morning. Good point about a warm day the paint was drying very nicely. Bad point it looked like Pixar were trying to film a new comedy insect based film in my garage using the bonnet as the set  Anyway it hasnt turned out to bad, not perfect but in a weeks time when it gets polished it shouldnt stand out at least.  Now it can take over as my daily driver and I can go back to working on retro`s again and stop these OT threads  |
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