vulgalour
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Sept 23, 2016 21:33:37 GMT
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That's the hope! I've chopped out an 8 mile round trip by bringing it home. All of my online resources are accessible here too, which they weren't at the unit, and since the garage has lighting and space I can just tinker away whenever the mood takes me once I've done a bit of reorganising of the garage tomorrow to make life a bit easier.
Once the Princess suspension is pumped up again I'll be getting her transported home too, already cleared that with the guy that brought the Renault over. That one is going to be an easier job because the Princess can actually be driven. Feeling pretty excited today because things feel like they're moving in the right direction again.
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vulgalour
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Sept 24, 2016 17:58:07 GMT
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Right so, we have the Renault back at home now rather than at the unit. This is really useful as I now have all the bits of the car in an easy to get to location next to internet access so I can tinker or do larger jobs at my leisure much easier. No more the 8 mile round trip just to do a quick five minute job! Today, Mike and I pushed the Renault out onto the drive so we could have a bit of a sort of the garage and I could get the hosepipe into the rear arches to clean them out properly, the water pressure at the unit is very low so I couldn't do a great job there. Front arches proved to be quite clean as I'd had excellent access when the wings were off to really scrub everything properly. I wasn't really expecting quite as much mud as I found. What was nice was discovering just how solid everything really is. The trailing arms and some of the inner wings could do with a lick of paint and some protection to keep things this way but it's all remarkably good. Check out my green rear shocks that were previously just mud coloured. I pulled out the strips of aluminium that had been used as mud guards. I haven't binned these as they'd actually done a remarkably good job of keep the mud out of the upper reaches of the rear arches, there was barely anything above them. Repeat the hosing and scrubbing on the other side, remove yet more mud. Same story this side. You can see the metallic blue of the bodyshell (which I'm now fairly certain is a replacement) and just a hint of the car's original metallic green on the trailing arm mount. Again, the inner arch is in very good shape. What's confusing is that there appears to be no repairs or rust holes in the inner arch but there are substantially sized patches rivetted to the inside of the bodyshell. I had thought this was a single-skinned piece, perhaps it isn't? Filler neck looked quite new compared to everything else, I wonder if it was replaced or if they just last really well. After all the gunge and sludge had been flushed out as best I could we pushed the car down the drive to clean up and I put the other screw into the driver's door arm rest so it stays in place when you use it now. I also found out that the missing switch is for the rear screen demister. So I'll need one of those since mine appears to be wired up, there's just no switch present. I wondered if there's supposed to be a cap or a plug for the trailing arm mount. I flushed all the mud and rust flakes I could out of the hole. Everything appears quite solid just devoid of paint. I'll get this area cleaned up and given a coat of something to keep it solid, I've been told this is one of the main weak points on these cars and I'd like to keep mine as solid as I can. They look a bit flakey in the photograph but they're really not, I gave them a good poke and it's just the remnants of underseal, mud and detritus stained with some surface corrosion. No expense spent on the one not-Michelin tyre. How cheap must this have been in the mid-90s? Marshal 777 The tracking on the front is off, I think this is because there's no engine or gearbox in there. Lots and lots of toe in and positive camber which can make the car difficult to push to begin with. All the hubs spin quite freely though the brand new brakes on the front definitely need to bed in a bit. Replaced the bolts fixing the ball joints to the wishbones that had got bent and installed them the correct way around. These are high tensile steel so should be fine. I was surprised the brake dust shields were still servicable as they're made from wafer thin steel. The floor is remarkably sound, well undersealed for the most part and relatively free of mud. This is a good thing. I have enough space in the garage to walk all the way around the car and work on the engine. I'd forgotten about my little blue trolley, it's ideal for moving the engine about. Didn't get as far as doing any measuring today, it was all about getting the Renault settled into its new house.
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stevietuck
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Never argue with idiots,they drag you down to their level then beat you with their expertise!
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Sept 24, 2016 19:31:53 GMT
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It looks very at home in there
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vulgalour
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Sept 28, 2016 23:44:14 GMT
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I've been out of action since the last update with my recurrent back problems. Not been completely idle, that's not in my nature, but been severely limited in what I can do. Renault - all I've found so far is that the crank has 5 thou of wear, evenly, on all the journals. This was discovered when I got hold of a set of standard measurements. It's likely going to need a regrind if only to match the relevant bearings. Because of my back, I've not been able to do the next stage of measuring. Princess - oh this has been fun. I ordered some compression olives to get the hydragas pipe sorted. What arrived were what I thought were all 12mm fittings. On checking through, three are the 1/2" ones I wanted, the rest are all 12mm, so I'm talking to the company I ordered them from to find out if I need to send them back to get proper replacements or not before doing anything else. As soon as the suspension is inflated again I'll be booking transport for the Princess so it can come home where I can steadily get through the wiring and whatnot needed for MoT. Rover - continues to be brilliant. The only problem really is that leaking thermostat housing, turns out the norm is to replace it when you disturb it because it's such a rubbish design. I'm waiting on details of a metal replacement which doesn't have the same issue as the plastic version, for now I'm just keeping an eye on the coolant level and topping it up as required. One thing I did discover is that the seats are magical. I've mentioned before that the car suits me really well for comfort and seating position and although my back has been really bad lately, the worst in years in fact, the seats in the Rover help. The shape of them is such that a steady drive to do errands - unfortunately, I can't escape my self-employed responsibilities - means my back is supported in such a way that it gives me considerable pain relief. This was very unexpected and enormously welcome today, I now have a comfy seat to use when things get unbearable. Yet another reason to keep the old thing and throw money at it, this one factor makes it a very special car for me. Today I also spotted this immaculate 1989 Camaro. I've never seen one as clean as this, it was stunning. Luckily the owner appeared just after I took the snapshot and we spoke briefly enough for me to express just how nice a thing I thought it was.
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Sept 29, 2016 8:13:18 GMT
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Get another Rover seat and make an office chair to go in the house for instant relief!
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Sept 29, 2016 9:40:11 GMT
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Nice Camaro, just like my old one - I miss that car
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vulgalour
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Today, Chompy and I got on with electrical stuff on the Princess. Mostly, I was cleaning bulbs and operating controls, Chompy was the one doing the wiring work because he's good at it and understands it. Previously, the headlights had been fitted but not tested, at some point the earth wire had gone missing for them which is strange as there was no reason for that to be removed. I may not do the hideaway grille on the front because it looks really good just as it is right now. Much of the original wiring loom didn't need altering. After checking which wires did what and a lot of fiddling about with old connectors, Chompy had figured out which of the original spade connectors went to which part of the BMW units and soon had them all wired up and fully operational. This was part way through proceedings. The wiring diagram in the workshop manual (not Haynes) doesn't actually exactly match my wiring loom, but then neither do the instructions for the carburettor so we weren't massively surprised by that. We then had an issue with the driver's side outer light unit in that the lens wasn't aligned properly with the light quadrants so half the reversing light illuminated with the brake light Annoyingly, the only resolution was to rotate the unit to get it all properly aligned and now it sits pointing in slightly the wrong direction because the backing plate is at the wrong angle. This is very easy to fix, it just means un-welding and re-welding the backing plate at the correct angle. A job for later, there was no way I was tackling that today. Chompy and I plodded on with the job until we got all of the rear lights functioning. I need to get a couple of bulbs as with them being old second hand ones, several did die or were already dead. At the front, we got the indicators, sidelights and at one point all of the headlights working. Then only the driver's side headlights worked and now I only have the outer driver's side headlight working on main beam so we need to investigate what's going on there. It's probably a problem with the earth or the switch or both. At the back there's a few bulbs missing so to explain, outer units have running lights (lower outer quadrant) which is also the reflector, brake lights (upper outer quadrant), reversing lights (upper middle quadrant) and indicator (middle). Inner lights have running lights (lower outer quadrant), brake lights (upper outer quadrant) and indicators (middle). I was going to put the fog lights in the inner units but there's no way of splitting off the light for the two halves of the red lenses to do this because of how they're designed. I'll have to rethink that side of things, I do have some spare fog lights if I need to fit them or I might be lucky and the car may pre-date the fog light requirement (even though I'm pretty sure it doesn't). Tomorrow we're getting the hydraulic repair pipe, the bulbs we need to replace and we'll hopefully be finishing tidying up the wiring loom and heatshrink wrapping the last few joints it got too dark to finish tonight. We may even figure out why the headlights aren't working and why the indicators and hazard lights got more and more recalcitrant about working as the day went on.
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Rich
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Fog lamp requirements is first used on or after 1st of April 1980. So you'll probably need one..
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vulgalour
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I do. My car was first registered 1st of October 1980. Luckily I do have a nice pair (fnar) and the wiring and switch is all there ready to go.
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Last Edit: Oct 2, 2016 21:12:40 GMT by vulgalour
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glenanderson
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That Renault really is the most solid I think I've ever seen. At the very minimum it wants soaking in clear Waxoyl wherever you can get it to reach.
Keep up the good work! :-)
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Can't get the link to work ....
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vulgalour
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The ones I've got will fit the requirements fine, they're a pair so fitment is a bit more lenient than a single and they sit nicely on the back of the car, just got to drill a couple of holes so I can bolt them on. ---- Chompy and I spent some more time with the Princess today. A visit to Pirtek with some measurements got us a lovely new hydraulic repair section rated to deal with higher psi than the Princess suspension is under. It cost about £60, which wasn't too bad considering it's a fully custom piece. We turned it around so the 45 degree bend is at the schrader valve end so that it fits. You can just about get the original air box on but I'll likely swap it to a smaller air filter of some description, the original is always awkward to deal with. After that was fitted and tightened up we got the suspension reinflated again. It's likely the suspension will be lifted a little further than this just for the sake of clearance at the front, but we want it to settle out first to make sure it's where it needs to be. We got the car running briefly after having issues with a battery that doesn't want to hold a full charge and the throttle cable sticking fully open. We used the Picasso to provide more boost to the battery, re-gapped the points, checked the condenser was installed correctly, found we had fuel getting to the carb and spark to the plugs. However, the car wouldn't run unless we put fuel directly in the carb so it looks like the carb needs cleaning out... again. Not too surprising, the car has been sat mostly idle for two years. Bit closer to an MoT at least.
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Paul Y
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is the absolute bollax. Looks fantastic. Now, if you can make me say that about a cheese wedge you can fit a 5 engine in the Renault. Well,done Sir. P.
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vulgalour
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That, for me, is pretty high praise The 3/4 views on this car now are just how I wanted them to be, I'm excited about getting the paint actually finished off and matched properly post-MoT. I always knew there had to be a good design hiding in the Princess, just a case of getting rid of just the right amount of froufrou they were lumbered with from the factory. I'm at that point where I don't want to change anything now apart from tiny little things like removing the boot lock. Overall, it looks right and balanced in a way the Princess never does in stock trim. It's a strange feeling, but a satisfying one.
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I never thought a Princess would look cool, but I have to agree with Paul, it looks great from that angle. The Lotus rims suit it too. Shame if it needs to go higher but needs must.
I'd think about de-badging the bootlid as well for a clean look.
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vulgalour
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Once the exhaust is gone and the paint sorted, I think that's going to be one of its best angles. Boot debadge is a given, I've got another boot lid I'm going to smooth and paint to replace the green one, I just haven't got around to doing that yet. I also need to rig up a remote release, probably cable because that's what I prefer, so I can smooth the boot out completely and tidy the rear end properly.
My to do list is very short: clean out the carb bleed brakes solve oil leak from sump/gearbox blanking plate trim arch returns so they don't catch the tyres fit number plates Fit and connect fog lights and number plate light and clean headlight connectors (got some halogen upgrades ordered, should be arriving in a few days) tracking (front looks to be toeing out a bit) fit replacement passenger side repeater replace missing/dead bulbs buy and/or fit air filter (not sure the original will get past the pipe repair) fit exterior door handles and interior door trims on passenger side
Honestly, there's barely anything to do. The rust, wheel bearing, handbrake and rear brake efficiency have all been fixed to the best of my ability. The only other MoT items were an insecure CV joint and steering rack but I've been unable to find where that problem actually is or any items that are loose so I'm a bit confused on that one.
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I'd debadge it but then find a little tiara badge to hat tip towards it being a princess. Maybe on the rear pillars.
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Its almost as if up until now the princess has been a waste of a good design. With all the trim removed along with the wheels it seems to look more like the original design idea, I'm sure Harris Mann would be pleased.
Looking forward to more updates
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qwerty
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I must concur that it looks fantastic sitting like that. Hopefully you will be able to keep that ride height. Maybe with a little machining of the suspension pin thingys.
Tom
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Looking really good. This car could be an Ambassador for the Princess model range.
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