Phil H
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Feb 19, 2018 20:28:02 GMT
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Those braided cables can look fine but be totally useless over time. Got a free car like that once. “if you can get it running, it’s yours”, says the owner. 10 minutes and £5 later, a free Vauxhall Nova.
However fine it looks, swap it for another - be it braided or a “proper” cable.
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Last Edit: Feb 20, 2018 11:04:56 GMT by Phil H
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Feb 20, 2018 10:55:59 GMT
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weird unions (well probably not, i just need to get out more) looks like primitive V band which are all the rage at the minute
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vulgalour
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Feb 21, 2018 17:17:45 GMT
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Not a big update today, but a good one. I'm not very well so I'm sat here bundled up in warm things and shall be having a lovely fresh mug of coffee shortly as a reward for today's efforts. First thing we did was investigate the earth problem. After testing with the multimeter and a spare jump lead cable (good call those that suggested it), we found that the issue was simply a bad earth in general. By fitting a second more substantial cable earth to a cleaned up earth point, all systems operated optimally. This was a pleasantly easy fix. The battery tray/overflow bottle bracket wasn't part of the problem, the problem seems to be the old braided earth strap just isn't working very well at all anymore. 20180221-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr Next was to remove the dashboard. Annoyingly, this was going quite smoothly until the little release clip for the speedo cable snapped clean off. I might have to buy yet another one of these, the grey plastic end on them seems incredibly fragile. Even more annoying since this one had absolutely nothing wrong with it. I might be able to jerry rig something up to keep it locked in place using the old piece that broke off and some tape or something until I can get a replacement, we'll see. If need be I'll set the sat nav up so I don't end up accidentally speeding if the cable won't plug back in. 20180221-02 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr I was hoping to get a few more miles on the car before taking the dashboard out to check that the test wiring worked. I'm going to have to be happy enough with the short time testing it we have managed because one problem with the lack of illumination in the dash was a wire that hadn't crimped properly. 20180221-03 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr Mike went through all the wires and soldered them, then wrapped them, to keep it all safe and secure. On retesting two bulbs still weren't illuminating even though the circuits and the bulbs tested okay. Specifically, main beam tell tale and right hand cluster illumination. 20180221-04 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr Hmm... one of the ongoing issues I've had with every old car is having to wiggle bulbs to make them work... 20180221-05 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr BINGO! So, electrical problems are now resolved. All I have to do is apply a small amount of foil tape to the bulbs to take up the slack in the holders and we should then have full dashboard illumination. The carburettor had the squelch pot topped up but the float still seems to be stuck, if I were feeling better I would have tackled that today. Likewise the bulbs and dashboard refitting. To be honest I was feeling too grotty to do more and didn't want to break something due to be fuzzy headed so called it quits. Still, it's progress. Easy to sort out now, I hope.
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Feb 21, 2018 20:44:34 GMT
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When I was bolting the MR2s engine back together I missed the earth strap off the gearbox. Not even a click when I turned the key. It was only then that I realised how much work Toyota must have done to keep stray earths out of the wiring. And until I read your posts I hadn't even considered things like the throttle cable. I can't imagine the mess you'd get if the starter current went down the throttle cable.
Nice work with the electrics! Hope you feel better soon.
James
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vulgalour
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Feb 22, 2018 17:11:12 GMT
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I'm still full of grot, so I shall keep this brief. 20180222-02 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr The Good - all dashboard illumination works correctly - all fan speeds have corrected themselves and work correctly - new fan comes on and goes off as it should with the in-radiator temperature switch - old fan override works with the new fan, should I need it to - exhaust is a bit quieter now we've had some heat in the system - coolant operating temperature optimal in traffic and at speed The Bad - speedo cable doesn't work, a replacement will be ordered - 3 rear bulbs have stopped working, probably the holders or the bulbs needing a wiggle again The... other stuff - I'm pretty good at guessing my speed based on engine tone and gear selected Mike took a video with his dashcam. Princess looks pretty smart on the road and also like absolutely nothing else.
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Feb 22, 2018 17:58:05 GMT
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New one on me?
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vulgalour
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Feb 22, 2018 18:12:58 GMT
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It's because the radio was on in Mike's car. I'm re-editing the vid to deal with it.
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vulgalour
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Feb 22, 2018 21:05:47 GMT
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Video should be working okay now.
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Feb 23, 2018 13:30:30 GMT
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The tang on the speedo cable broke off my tr7 years ago, still stays in place and works though.
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vulgalour
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Feb 23, 2018 15:08:16 GMT
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I've ordered a new one, I can't get the broken tang (that's a good word) to engage properly. Wanted to give it a wash today but I'm just too full of grot so instead measured and ordered some new trim clips for the waist trim that's been off the car for... almost my entire ownership. Oops.
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Feb 25, 2018 15:19:39 GMT
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vulgalour
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Feb 25, 2018 16:04:46 GMT
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I'm not really in need of anything SU at the moment *touch wood* I'm guessing those are spares from twin SUs too, I'm not sure exactly what's handed and what works in the single SUs. It'll be of use to someone, I'm sure. --- Gorgeous looking day outside today, I was hopeful I might even get a little paintwork done. Went outside and it's FREEZING. How is it so cold and yet so lovely? Anyway, today I wanted to reinstate the stainless trims I removed shortly after getting the car. The trims were removed in a cosmetic rust-busting exercise back when I thought that was all that was wrong with this car... how wrong I was. Anyway, since I'm now finally at a point where I thought I was starting from when I bought it, I almost have that same excitement of being able to tinker and improve visually without fear of big problems ruining anything. I'd wisely saved the crusty, rusty old trim clips that I removed all those years ago, against the advice of some who supposedly knew better and told me I wouldn't need them. This was a good thing because it meant I could measure them and compare them against the Marina/Mini clips Bresco are supplying. You can find them here: bresco.com/acatalog/For-8.8mm-moulding-flange-gap.-BL-Marina-wheel-arch-and-Mini.-37151P.html#SID=29To figure out what size you need, measure the gap between the return flanges on the back of the stainless trim, in the Princess' case that's 8.8mm. The trim clips themselves measure 10mm wide. The difference in size is of course to allow the trim clips to spring into the cavity of the trim and hold everything snug. There's a number of ways you can attach the trim clips to the car, originally mine were held on with rivets and I saw no reason not to repeat this, so out with my trusty old Wilkinson hand rivetter which has been one of my better tool purchases over the years, and some additional tools. 20180225-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr On trying to fit the first rivet I found the nose on my rivet gun was too big and it just pulled the rivet up and out of the hole. I improvised with a tiny nut which served as a perfect spacer. When you install the rivets, the trim clip goes against the car body, then the bobble end of the rivet is inserted into the hole, then the nut spacer, then the gun goes on the long stalk which it grabs and pulls out. Once the rivet is tight enough, the gun automatically snips off the excess rod and the job is jobbed. It's a really neat tool, very satisfying to use. 20180225-02 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr 18 trim clips later, and the trim was installed. I say that... it was a little more difficult. I should perhaps have done this on a warmer day, the trim only really snapped into place once I'd handled them enough to warm up a bit. The new clips are a much tighter fit than the rusty old ones too, so it was hard work to get them sat in place. The very corner trim clip on the C pillar section has had the hole drilled out larger on both sides, I don't know why, so I had to use an extra tiny washer on the back for the rivet to squash against rather than pulling straight through everything. This worked well on the driver's side... 20180225-03 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr On the passenger side, not so much. As soon as the trim was clipped on it just pinged the trim clip off by pulling the rivet through everything. I guess the head on this rivet didn't squash quite large enough to stay on the right side of the tiny washer. It's secure, just not lined up perfectly on the corner. I'll redo this when it's a warmer day, too cold to be faffing with it today! 20180225-05 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr It is nice to see the waist trim back on completely now. It has bugged me for a while that those three pieces (C pillar each side, and boot lid) have been missing. 20180225-04 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr Another job I'd put off forever was replacing the spare tyre strap that came with the car. All the while I've had it, the strap has had a pin holding it together which is really good at stabbing you when trying to get the spare out. I've had a new strap since breaking the orange car several years ago, I've just had so many other jobs to resolve, it never got done. 20180225-06 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr The replacement isn't perished either and seems to fit nicer. It's certainly nice not to get stabbed when you handle it! It was a simple matter of undoing one 13mm bolt that holds the strap to the boot floor, so I've really had no good excuse for putting this off for so long. 20180225-07 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr I bought a NOS speedo cable described as "Un used in box". What arrived was a speedo cable broken exactly the same as mine with grease on each end and witness marks from it being removed from a car at least once. Super. Improvised by using the sat nav and when I got to Tesco in the car today, the mount broke again so I had to improvise even more! This worked surprisingly well. Yes, that is an antique TomTom. 20180225-08 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr I'm still doing the "what's that smell/noise/imagined sensation?" thing you do with a car that's new to you. It's performing well enough, all the same. I'll gradually increase my trip distances and frequencies as I get more confident. I dislike not having a working speedometer, that bugs me quite a bit, once my invoices are paid I can get another cable ordered, they mostly seem to be £10-20 when they do crop up. I'll just have to be more cautious if the photograph doesn't show the all-important locking tang.
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CaptainSlog
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Did you buy the cable on Ebay? You should get your money back - I hate crooks ripping people off!
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vulgalour
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Feb 26, 2018 12:57:36 GMT
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I hadn't heard of them until you posted the link. I'm going to have to double-check on fittings. They list a cable for Princess 1 (1975-78) but mine is a Princess 2 and while they list one for the Ambassador, I know that cable is a different fitting at the instrument end because they changed the binnacle.
Either way, they've made it into the bookmarks because I can see that being a useful resource in the future.
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Feb 26, 2018 14:18:30 GMT
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nice job on that trim and electrical bits....I am beginning to hate crimp connectors and usually end up doing what you did...solder the crimp in place...it holds the wires together while you solder.....then protect everything with tape.
looking good!
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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vulgalour
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Feb 26, 2018 15:13:37 GMT
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Day... 2 or 3 of using it daily now and things are steadily improving, which is nice. Dashboard controls have all woken up properly now, heater is lovely and toasty and the interior is staying nice and dry, this is all good stuff.
Driver's door is still annoying me, there's definitely a knack to it. The hinge pins I have might not be the ones I need to replace though since it looks like it might be the skinny pins that have play, not the fat ones. I'm hoping to get the door off this weekend to investigate properly since it will be easier to investigate the hinge with the door removed.
I suspect the car is running a little lean. We did have to adjust things to compensate for the cone filter and I haven't adjusted it back and even though it has been very cold today, a little choke was needed all the time to stop the car being chuntery at idle. It could also just be stale fuel, I put some fresh in today and that did seem to perk things up a bit so before I fiddle with things too much I'm going to work on waking the systems up instead.
On my way back home today, setting off from a junction briskly (because it's one where you have to) the boot decided to fly open. Queue flashing of lights from person behind me and me pulling into a layby to shut the boot again. It isn't the first time the Princess has done this, last time it did it with a boot full of shopping. Normally locking the boot stops it doing it, but the boot was locked this time so I guess it needs further adjustment somewhere.
I also noticed on pulling into our street that there was what sounded like a slightly grumbly disc or front pad. The brakes didn't feel particularly broken or off in any way so I'm wondering if it's just a little surface rust or similar from the car being stood a while, or maybe some dirt. I couldn't see anything readily apparent, nothing is hot and the car isn't pulling to one side under braking, but I'll get the wheel off and have a look at some point soon. I've never actually done anything with the front brakes on this car (other than bleeding them for routine maintenance) as I've never needed to, but they've never offered cause for concern before.
It is a harder car to live with than the Rover, that much is for sure. There are some benefits, people generally give me space where in the Rover they can bully a bit and the Princess is big enough that I never feel particularly vulnerable. The only exception is parking, the Princess is a tough old thing to haul in and out of supermarket parking spaces, especially with the lack of power steering, so low speed maneuvers have to be done slowly and with effort, especially so since it has a gigantic turning circle. Not everyone has patience with this. It's also weird getting used to first for only setting off and second for pretty much everything else, the gearing is very oddly spaced compared to more modern stuff and definitely aimed more at motorway loping than stop-start traffic. I'd like a fifth gear.
Overall I'm happy enough. I'm not sure how many miles exactly I've done since getting everything working again because of the duff speedo, I'd guess it's about 60 or so by now.
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Feb 26, 2018 16:26:24 GMT
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If its any comfort to you during your seemingly endless efforts to create a dependable means of transport out of your Princess, I would suggest that the age of the car has very little to do with it! I'm old enough to remember these and other BL cars from the '70s and early '80s when they were new and the sight of many owners spending their saturdays and sundays reattaching parts that had fallen off during the weeks use. It was a very common scene to see a sea of brown, beige and sludgy green bonnets raised and disgruntled owners grimly struggling with the contents while the "new fangled" Japanese car owners relaxed in the pub or garden safe in the knowledge that their cars would start and work when called on to do so! It was also a pretty common sight to see Maxis, Princesses etc. trundling down the road with a pretty startling list to port or starboard - so the suspension woes are nothing new either! I remember my next door neighbour forcing string in between the exterior door handles and bodywork of his 1 week old Maxi to take up the slack and prevent them from wobbling about. The good times of the British motor industry! So, if its any consolation, your battles are nothing new!
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vulgalour
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Feb 28, 2018 18:36:21 GMT
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Princess is having to live outdoors at the moment because of the ongoing shed saga meaning I can't put her in the garage where she belongs. Makes for a good photo opportunity with the snow that's happened at least. Started on the 26th when some came down enough to stick, which I found out when going out to see if I'd left my phone in the car... I hadn't, and just ended up with cold feet as a result. 20180226-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr The next day was one of those lovely bright clear ones that was also bitterly cold. 20180227-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr 20180227-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr Fortunately I haven't had to go out anywhere, work has been keeping me at my desk and the cupboards are well stocked, which is fortunate given the weather. I haven't the greatest confidence in the Princess' snow abilities on the current tyres and our little housing estate is never gritted or cleared. The Rover isn't much better really, the tyres it wears are next to useless on snow. Winter tyres are a luxury I haven't been able to afford, something to aim for next winter as I know they make a surprising difference to handling and stopping and I do have enough spare sets of wheels to accomodate them. It's been snowing pretty much all day on and off today. I did clear the drive of snow and ice only for it to snow again and fill up what I'd cleared, at least there's no ice to break my limbs on now. We're expecting more snow and have an Amber warning for our area so I'm just hoping I don't need to venture out until it's all cleared up again at this point. Looks pretty though. 20180228-01 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr 20180228-02 by Angyl Roper, on Flickr
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Feb 28, 2018 20:42:55 GMT
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I like it when it snows - it makes my garden look has good has everybody else's
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