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Apr 29, 2007 18:39:13 GMT
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my dad has bought some nice rimage for his grandaddy stylee rover 414 & they have "two gates wheels uk" cast into the back of them, can anyone shed any light on the company???
i've heard this company mentioned in street machine a while back in an articticle on a guy with a dark green rover v8 turbo tr7,
it was a featured car in the mag, 3 page spread & he got his wheels from "two gates wheels uk" nice car too!
so can anyone shed any light
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Mini 998cc grp bonnet & boot, lightend shell, 6-point cage, soon to have a turbo on the 998 engine (t2 frm a r5gt) rs turbo intercooler, hoping to get 120ish bhp?
father is building a Mini Van 1330, 45 weber, 100bhp@wheels
'RIP' 1.8 Metro GTi, 15.23 1/4mile
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Apr 29, 2007 18:45:15 GMT
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I know Two Gates is a district of Tamworth in Staffordshire (home of Reliant) so it might be worth doing some localised web-ferreting....other than that I can't offer any more!!!
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Apr 29, 2007 19:09:42 GMT
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are yep! brian&damaged (like your avatar bud) two gates is tamworth! why is it brains (my own anyway) don't give the full picture! for some reason two gates wheels uk has popped in my haead & i think?  ? hmmmmm head scratching! is/was either a midlands or welsh company,  why does my brain forget stuff i have no brand for the wheels so i'm thinking they must be the company that cast the wheels |
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Mini 998cc grp bonnet & boot, lightend shell, 6-point cage, soon to have a turbo on the 998 engine (t2 frm a r5gt) rs turbo intercooler, hoping to get 120ish bhp?
father is building a Mini Van 1330, 45 weber, 100bhp@wheels
'RIP' 1.8 Metro GTi, 15.23 1/4mile
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Apr 29, 2007 19:10:56 GMT
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there are a few wheel makers around brum i believe that cast the wheels is'nt there, i may get joy yaking to someone there if us peeps cant she light on it
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Mini 998cc grp bonnet & boot, lightend shell, 6-point cage, soon to have a turbo on the 998 engine (t2 frm a r5gt) rs turbo intercooler, hoping to get 120ish bhp?
father is building a Mini Van 1330, 45 weber, 100bhp@wheels
'RIP' 1.8 Metro GTi, 15.23 1/4mile
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Apr 29, 2007 19:15:28 GMT
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Two Gates Wheels Ltd Deloitte & Touche Colmore Gate, 2 Colmore Row Birmingham B3 2BN(Road Map) West Midlands Tel: 01952 580564 Weird.....has a Telford phone number! They must have produced rims for Cobra (who are in Telford) as well, apparently the Supaslot was made by Two Gates. I keep editing this, apparently Two Gates made Alleycats as well!! Looks like they are in recievership....and I found a product recall notice at www.rory.uk.com/safety_alerts.htm advising people to remover any Two Gates wheels from their cars!  |
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Last Edit: Apr 29, 2007 19:21:57 GMT by briandamaged
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Apr 29, 2007 19:24:33 GMT
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crikey brian, good searching, i've been looking & not found owt! cheers for finding that adress & details, thats great, hope these wheels we've got are ok, theres no damage on what we have, they seem almost as new, i'm gonna chk for probs now!
apparently two gates wheels used to be the makers of superslots & allycats, how many sets of these are knocking about!
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Mini 998cc grp bonnet & boot, lightend shell, 6-point cage, soon to have a turbo on the 998 engine (t2 frm a r5gt) rs turbo intercooler, hoping to get 120ish bhp?
father is building a Mini Van 1330, 45 weber, 100bhp@wheels
'RIP' 1.8 Metro GTi, 15.23 1/4mile
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Apr 29, 2007 19:31:05 GMT
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If you've any worries about them it might be worth contacting a wheel specialist such as Lap-Tab who are on the Tyburn Road in Erdington (A38, just north of Spaghetti Junction 08454 65 4865) who might be able to shed some more light on any problems with them. www.lap-tab.co.uk |
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Apr 29, 2007 19:41:40 GMT
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lap tab are great, any wheels i have blasted & powdercoated i have done there!!!!! cant recommend there quality of finish enough, seem to be able to sort any kerbing out a treat! seem nice ppl running it too!
i had some mildly buckled wheels (2) & the sone a great job of sorting them, balaned up a treat after
i usually take my tyres off & they always seem to have them done sameday if i ring them in 1st, not many companys are that quick these days
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Mini 998cc grp bonnet & boot, lightend shell, 6-point cage, soon to have a turbo on the 998 engine (t2 frm a r5gt) rs turbo intercooler, hoping to get 120ish bhp?
father is building a Mini Van 1330, 45 weber, 100bhp@wheels
'RIP' 1.8 Metro GTi, 15.23 1/4mile
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Apr 29, 2007 21:17:53 GMT
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Yes two gate wheels used to be in Telford, on Halesfield ind estate. I bought some wheels from there years ago, as I used to work next door. They have closed and reopened a few times and the last time under a new name, but I'm sure it has closed completely know or they have moved as there is a breakdown and recovery company in the unit know and no they are not part off cobra seats either, they just happen to be just down the road on the same industrial estate.and Cobra superslots just happen to have the same first name.
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a few things...
just because one specific wheel made by this company is prone to cracking does not mean that all wheels they made are, just that one design. If your wheels are the design in the picture on the Marcos site I'd weigh them in. If they are any other design I'd use them. You should always check used wheels before using them anyway.
You can check what companies are in recievership, theres a register online somewhere.
Sometimes companies have their solicitors or their accountants as their "registered address" anyway, so if you check a company out and it comes back as a solicitors address or whatever thats not always a bad thing. Its quite typical with smaller to medium sized businesses.
A lot of wheels are not actually made by the company who's name is on the front. You or I could go set up a wheel company tomorrow and use a third party to actually cast the wheels and just do the marketting and logistics ourselves. A lot of the smaller "named" wheels back in the day (and probably still today) do this. I remember reading somewhere that although not many people have heard of "Smiths Wheels" they produce abotu half the aftermarket wheels in the UK and a sizable chunk for the OE market (I think they did Rover's alloys) although a contract caster would usually castt the name of the company who contracted them, not their own name, onto the wheel.
pics?
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Apr 30, 2007 14:03:20 GMT
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A lot of wheels are not actually made by the company who's name is on the front. You or I could go set up a wheel company tomorrow and use a third party to actually cast the wheels and just do the marketting and logistics ourselves. A lot of the smaller "named" wheels back in the day (and probably still today) do this. I remember reading somewhere that although not many people have heard of "Smiths Wheels" they produce abotu half the aftermarket wheels in the UK and a sizable chunk for the OE market (I think they did Rover's alloys) although a contract caster would usually castt the name of the company who contracted them, not their own name, onto the wheel. Conversely, a lot of OE wheels are made by two or three different companies to supply demand. I remember reading that the ford 4-spokes used throughout the 70s were made by at least four different casting companies, and all have slightly different styles - depth of spokes, angles and radiuses of corners etc. |
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Never trust a man
Who names himself Trevor.
Or one day you might find
He's not a real drug dealer.
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Apr 30, 2007 14:12:49 GMT
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I think that you may have that slightly wrong mate. I know that there are several variations of the Ford 4 spoke wheel but I cannot imagine they could put up with variations in production just down to where each batch came from. I know there is the original RS type 4 spoke, a wider version which make be the X pack 4 spoke, Supersprot 4 spoke, and then the Laser 4 spoke with possibly another version as well. And they vary slightly in offset and which type of wheel nut you need to use with them. I think they must have been designed to be different. It may well be that otherwise identical Laser alloys came either from Smiths, Ronal, where ever but they would have been identical in terms of casting and all that or they wouldn't have been ballanced on the car etc. I'll defer to any Ford gods who frequent here, I know V8Lee is an authority of Ford 4 spokes...  BTW I **need*** to get that damn washing machine off you. Might be able to sneak up one night in the week? |
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Apr 30, 2007 14:59:56 GMT
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I'm sure there were different makers, think I read it in Performance Ford back in the late 80's when I used to buy it (at least ten years before I'd be old enough to drive!). Might have been different countries as well though, those wheels were fitted to Oz and Saaf African fords too weren't they and I'd imagine they have local casting contractors instead of shipping finished wheels. They're only meant to be small differences and the context I read it in is that some owners quite happily fit mismatched sets unaware that the spoke recess depth on one of their wheels is 1mm shallower than another or whatever. In that scenario I'd assume they were all the same offset and width though. Anyway... dishwasher.... I'm off work today/tomorrow/wednesday but then back to work on late shift thursday/friday so mornings only  anytime you can make it is good with me, no real plans. |
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Last Edit: Apr 30, 2007 15:00:49 GMT by Pillock
Never trust a man
Who names himself Trevor.
Or one day you might find
He's not a real drug dealer.
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Apr 30, 2007 15:09:26 GMT
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I can well imagine that those Ford RS wheels would come from a few different suppliers, in which case they probably are dimensionally different on the casting.
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Indeed, but what I doubt is that they mixed and match in the same runs if you see what I mean. Back in the 1970s when most of these wheels were made there wasn;t really a push towards JIT delivery and multi-supplier deals with call offs and the like. It was more half a dozen fat brummies chucking stuff in crates and you got your stock when they weren;t on strike. Or on a fag break. In which case perhaps I can see mixed sets being fitted by the factory...
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? hmmmmm head scratching! is/was either a midlands or welsh company, 
anytime you can make it is good with me, no real plans.