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May 17, 2014 21:58:30 GMT
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Some of you may know my wife is an undertaker. The are planning to do an honour memorial type display at work to the fallen in World War 1 Central to the display will be a "replica" coffin, possibly a bit like what would have been found on the front line. Clearly we know that the trenches were much more terrible than most could imagine, and possible most burials were done in a blanket, or less as the war progressed. I am going to convert the packing crate into something possibly resembling a field built coffin. I need ideas on what else to add to make the display hit the right note. We have a knackered WW1 helmet, and a Poppy type Union Jack. Other ideas and advice appreciated as we want this to be a great memorial and reminder. This is what I have. Plan is to reduce it by 30% in height and to invert the planks, so it looks more hand made.
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Last Edit: Jul 11, 2014 21:24:09 GMT by grizz
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awoo
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if you want to age the wood at all, to make it look less like it was supplied by B&Q, take a blow torch to the surface then scrub it up with wire wool.
would make it look like the wood used had been kicking round for a while before being used for building a coffin.
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May 18, 2014 20:40:24 GMT
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Awoo, thanks for the advice. The plan is to age it a bit with tea, mud, tyre tracks etc. Today I took the box apart, the reduced the height and length..... serious PITA. But now done. It is not really what I had envisaged, but once the rest of the decoration is added, like Union Jack, Bible, some clothes etc. The base was left on, as the shop has a 400mm high window sill. And once decorated that space will be filled up. Shorter, and less height. Woodwork side done. Keep in mind, most of the casualties in the war were buried at a maximum in a blanket or some canvas, wood was in very short supply. Now the next step is to "age and decorate" the wood.
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May 23, 2014 20:41:34 GMT
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Nice project, slightly off topic, but on a similar theme, I'm off to Ypres in Belgium with my Delorean, as part of a classic car club, to commemorate WW1 in August
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May 23, 2014 22:07:58 GMT
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Had a quick search for such things, and mostly yes looked like the one you have made guess some shaving of the corners - to make it more Ad Hoc and aging it some and making gaps, panels of wood not quite fitting, maybe having bits at irregular angles, rather like spare bits of broken planks blow torching like an above squire said would be good but I think your on the right track good buddy
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Last Edit: May 23, 2014 22:19:10 GMT by fred
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May 24, 2014 21:27:50 GMT
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Had a days thought on this, and asked my Step dad Fred, who is a huge WW1/WW11 collector his thoughts are in the trenches, you will be pulling planks which have been in wet soil, dirty, unshaped, and covered in curse word. and hastily nailed together. with huge gaps, and bits with shell burn, and holes in them Not sure if you want it THAT realistic mind!!??
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Had a days thought on this, and asked my Step dad Fred, who is a huge WW1/WW11 collector his thoughts are in the trenches, you will be pulling planks which have been in wet soil, dirty, unshaped, and covered in curse word. and hastily nailed together. with huge gaps, and bits with shell burn, and holes in them Not sure if you want it THAT realistic mind!!?? Morning mate Just about off to bootfair to look for more treasures. The majority of men would have got blanket/canvas or nothing when buried. Fred is absolutely right that is would have been a mess, but for the purpose of this commemoration display, it will be more "clean and nice" So the gaps in my box and rough cut wood will have to do.
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May 25, 2014 20:56:52 GMT
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Look forward to the finished article good buddy, I know its going to be a damn good job knowing your 'hands' with the art of wood
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May 28, 2014 15:13:31 GMT
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Thanks to Sumprat who sent this mess tin, which will be aged a lot and distressed with the help of a candle and possibly some contact glue to make it look used and grubby. Nicola suffers from insomnia and found 10 sandbags on Ebay (I assume) at 03.00 this morning. So she will collect all the shredding at work to fill them and use as part of the display. My plan to get some rusty barbed wire from the local farmer crashed and burned, as all the barbed wire, even on their scrap metal pile was galvanized, so the search continues.
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Jul 10, 2014 19:03:57 GMT
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I did find an old paraffin lantern that will be added to the display. Plan is to go set up the window this weekend. Unfortunately, it has to conform to corporate policy etc.
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Jul 11, 2014 21:24:24 GMT
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Took the box down to the shop this afternoon after work and helped Nicola do the basic set up. Some fine tuning to be done. Outside view..... (yes, the building needs a load o attention) Size of display is limited by the size of the building and reception area. Sister in Law Margaret sat and crocheted 60 poppies as well to help with the decoration. Some finer details to be added, but I am pleased and impressed with how it has turned out. I suspect some of the branches will not make the same effort, and wait to see what others have done. "LEST WE FORGET" Thank you to everyone who commented and helped with advice and additions to the display. Unfortunately, barbed wire and other "dangerous" objects were banned, in case someone hurts themselves.
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Jul 11, 2014 21:36:52 GMT
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Well done good buddy, Was going to say looks awesome, but no thats not the word for such a display It is however a real heartfelt tribute to all of those poor guys who went through hell and back moreover those souls who never made it back. Well done mate, be proud of your efforts, I lift a glass up to you and your dearest for taking time out to show the world you care
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Well done good buddy, Was going to say looks awesome, but no thats not the word for such a display It is however a real heartfelt tribute to all of those poor guys who went through hell and back moreover those souls who never made it back. Well done mate, be proud of your efforts, I lift a glass up to you and your dearest for taking time out to show the world you care Thank you for taking the time to write up a reply. I think a lot of people today have forgotten or do not understand the meaning of all this. Despite war being a terrible thing, we need to remember and respect those who made any sacrifice.
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Well done good buddy, Was going to say looks awesome, but no thats not the word for such a display It is however a real heartfelt tribute to all of those poor guys who went through hell and back moreover those souls who never made it back. Well done mate, be proud of your efforts, I lift a glass up to you and your dearest for taking time out to show the world you care Plus one to this. My Grandad was in the trenches in WW1 (God, that dates me!) and although he spoke little about it, probably not surprisingly, you'd get the odd snip now and again. My Dad did Dunkirk to D-Day, plus the bits either side, and also lived never to tell the tale. As said, these things need to be remembered and I'm now learning a whole new portion of history about the Pacific in WW2. Very poignant. So well done feller for a splendid memorial.
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Last Edit: Jul 14, 2014 9:18:21 GMT by georgeb
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Well done good buddy, Was going to say looks awesome, but no thats not the word for such a display It is however a real heartfelt tribute to all of those poor guys who went through hell and back moreover those souls who never made it back. Well done mate, be proud of your efforts, I lift a glass up to you and your dearest for taking time out to show the world you care Plus one to this. My Grandad was in the trenches in WW1 (God, that dates me!) and although he spoke little about it, probably not surprisingly, you'd get the odd snip now and again. My Dad did Dunkirk to D-Day, plus the bits either side, and also lived never to tell the tale. As said, these things need to be remembered and I'm now learning a whole new portion of history about the Pacific in WW2. Very poignant. So well done feller for a splendid memorial. Thank you. Seems most people get it. One "lovely chap" on UKGSER did not get it. And managed to stall the thread with a hugely negative reply. But eveywhere else people appreciate it. Whats nice is that Nicola's manager shared it with her regional manager who shared it with the zonal manager and they all were blown away that she made the effort. She was also approached by "Funeral Service Times" an industry publication for August to write up a short article and submit photos to go with it. She was shocked but I was really pleased that someone saw fit to escalate her efforts. Too many people these days are too lazy and cannot be arsed to make an effort. Its always easier to break down than build up or go the extra mile. Thanks for all the support.
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Jul 25, 2014 20:41:41 GMT
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My father in law called earlier to say that a photo of the display and Nicola's name was featured in a local newspaper article today. She was also asked by two funeral trade magazines to do a write up about Chatham's contribution to WW1 and to submit some high resolution photos for publication in the August and September issues. I am glad many people are "getting it"
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Jul 25, 2014 21:40:31 GMT
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Thats great mate, glad to see folk are giving you and your love the credit your effort deserves - post some pics up of the articles if you get them
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Jul 27, 2014 12:15:44 GMT
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Absolutely brilliant, I just showed this to my 10 year old and he is so proud of you both as am I, Adam (10 year old) has been learning about WW1 at School and from my dad who is 96 and a WW2 veteran.as you say LEST WE FORGET Well done to you both.
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Jul 27, 2014 20:46:35 GMT
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Thank you so much guys. Gurnersimps1963, thank you for keeping the memories alive in your home too. During September Nicola will be doing "Coffee Mornings" at work to help generate funds for www.macmillan.org.uk which is a cancer support charity her company supports. Last year the made a few hundred pounds, this year she is alone managing the branch on her own. We have decided on a logo for her drive TIME TO GIVE .... ? which could be asking for time or for a donation toward this worthy charity. With the time theme, we started looking for various clocks and timepieces at the bootfair today. We set the ideal limit at 50p with £1.00 being the maximum to spend on a clock. These do not have to be working. I suggested we suspend many of them from thin fishing line in the front window and do some other creative window dressing. These were the first lot, The large wooden clock was free from a trader, I brought it home, dismantled, cleaned and gave it a coat of Danish oil to make it look good. The very large round one next to it was free from the same trader and I needed to backfill quite a lot of the glass with paint where it was damaged. We need to find quite a lot more clocks to get the theme all ready and set up, bit will keep looking at the bootfairs.
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Jul 31, 2014 11:28:39 GMT
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well done mate, I was talking to my sons mates, and not one of them could tell me anything about ww1 and very little about ww2. its a disgrace that some schools don't teach it. lest we forget. I have somewhere, a letter of my great grandfather dated 1917, he was in the machine gun corps. going to get it framed with all his medals very proud of him.
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yow can fix anything wi a ommer owr kid...
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