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Apr 29, 2007 18:50:17 GMT
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What a waste. Seems to happen alot nowadays. It must have been very traumatic for everyone involved. One of my closest friends was killed a year ago last friday in his BMW 323, a few months after that the wifes friends brother was killed in a VW golf when it hit a Vectra head on, last month an ex work mate of the wife was killed in her focus, she was hit head on by a transit on a NSL road. 2 in the transit were seriously injured. Every accident just a simple mistake, slightly speeding, misjudged manouvre, not looking..... All totally avoidable. all an utter waste. It totally knocks people for 6, friends, relataves. In a nano second the whole world changes. It really is a sobering thought.
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1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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orangecords
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Apr 29, 2007 18:59:29 GMT
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5hit man
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I then wanted to start cleaning the interior as it stinks of wood (the material not the smell of a boner) best quote ever!
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Apr 29, 2007 19:23:08 GMT
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Well done to your family and best wishes to them and yourself.
RIP to the victims.....my heart goes out to their loved ones. I really don't know I'd cope, let's hope none of us has to learn how.
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Apr 29, 2007 19:51:59 GMT
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Jeez....I just read that out to my wife....Got us both quite emotional....Rather puts the everyday irritations of life into perspective doesn't it? Let's all take care out there....O.K?
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It IS as bad as You think and they ARE out to get You!
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Apr 29, 2007 20:11:07 GMT
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Really sad that these things can happen, :-( and credit to your lot. Measure at least twice then set off. Some silly woman cornered-into my GF on her bike on Wednesday absolutely failing to see her , even when she slid down the side, and still denies its her fault. good job she'd taken off to change identity by the time I got there, doubt the actual driver has a licence! Bout fcuking time people paid attention to the road and other users and thinking about what might happen. of course accidents can still happen people are not perfect none of us... Luckily Ms R is ok she was wearing an helmet (recommended) its cracked like hell and shes been headachey and concussive since, praying she'll be OK and wondering where we go from here, both ride bikes, some HI vis and EXTRA extra defensiveness and road ownship is on the cards....
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Apr 29, 2007 20:35:30 GMT
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Not a very nice thing to run into (not literally), but I can sympathise as a few years ago I came across an accident where an Escort was t-boned by a Starlet - both driven by women and both having two kids in the car. The Escort driver had been changing a tape in her cassette and realised too late that the road curved right; she over-corrected and as the road was a bit greasy lost control and skidded broadside into the Starlet, almost head-on. I arrived on the scene as the Escort stopped skidding sideways onto the verge; there were a group of us all going to start our shift at work and we stayed with the crash, getting the kids out of the Starlet and out of the Escort and the driver of the Starlet into the ambulance; sadly the driver of the Escort died instantly and left an orphan.
It is one of those things that sticks with you for a long time, especially the 'what if?'. Give the family as much time as they need, and if they want to talk/cry/get angry, let them. If it starts to bug them, let them talk it out with you, but don't offer solutions - they have to draw their own conclusions as to what they could/couldn't have done themselves.
As footnote, the following Saturday I went and layed flowers at the crash site and there were a group of people there, one being the victim's mother. She asked if I knew her daughter; I said no, but I had tried to get her out of the wreckage and had helped the ambulance crew. She hugged me, shook my hand and said Thank You for what I had been able to do - I felt humbled by her sincerity. I have since met the other driver as she is my Mum's aromatherapist, complete with forehead scar where she hit the steering wheel.
Its also the reason I will not travel in a Mk4/5/6 Escort..........
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Those Escorts are pretty lethal if hit broadside.
I've seen a few bad accidents, they can shake you up. Saw a Fiat Punto where the occupants couldn't be got out by the cops and the car was on fire... Nasty way to go. Saw a biker who was pretty obviously dead on the other carreidgeway, then about 1/8th mile later I came acorss his bike, then about a quarter mile further down I came across a parked P100 pickup with a motorcylce shaped dent in the back of it - and it had been spun round to face the way it was coming. How fast must that biker have hit it!!!!
Both of the above on the road to Santa Pod...
Saw a lad I thought had been hit by a car lying in the road a couple weeks back in Bulwell up by a mates place, but turned out he was actually stabbed... Nice.
Only time I was ever a "hero" was when I was on the A34 and there was a Mk2 Escort estate pulling a caravan, it all looked like it was going to get out of shape, so I hung back, and yep, it did... tail started wagging the dog and before you know it the Escort has been whipped inot the air about 4 or 5 foot, flipped over onto its roof and "WHACK" it came down with enough force to cruisht he pillars, instant roof chop! Anyway its still doing about 40 MPH upside down on its roof on the side of the road now. So I used my car (Ventora) to stop the traffic, and I had to litterally climb on the floor of the Escort and kick the door panels to bend them enough so I cold jemmy themopen to get the people out, all while petrol is pouring out of the tank all over everywhere. And in a queue of about 30-40 cars on the A34 how many people you reckon stepped out to help? precicely 1. A lorry driver, who luckily had a 2 way radio in his cab to call the police/ambulance (this was about 1995 and not so many people had mobiles back then) Got them sitting in my car to wait ofr the cops (after we moved it so it only blocked on lane to allow space for the wreckage) then I realised the igntion was probably still on in the Escprt and had visions of it blowing up, so I ended up crawling back into the wreckage to get the keys out. Its really really confusiing in a half crushed upside down car!
Shakes you up when you see this kind of sh!t on the roads.
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That sounds absolutely horrific, I can't imagine a worse situation than causing an accident myself in which a passenger in my car died and not myself, let alone (should I ever have any) my own children.
My father is a doctor who used to until recently voluntarily be called from home to serious RTA's (he has blue lights and sirens etc on his own car) I have been with him to many fatal accidents and none of them compare to the horrific nature of this where a mother has effectively killed her own children, I spare a thought for the poor woman as this will undoubtedly affect the rest of her life.
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Apr 30, 2007 11:50:55 GMT
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Jeez....I just read that out to my wife....Got us both quite emotional....Rather puts the everyday irritations of life into perspective doesn't it? Let's all take care out there....O.K? Couldn't agree more with the above. I watched 'Killer Road' - about the A46 in Lincolnshire - on More4 last night. IIRC this strech of road has more fatal accidents than any other. This programme had interviews with the relatives of the deceased and the people who first arrived at the accidents. Very sobering indeed.
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Apr 30, 2007 11:53:29 GMT
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I watched parts of that twice.
However I only stuck with it a few mins on each occasion,
What I am in terested in is the reasons, the technicalities, the stats, I don;t really want be a voyer on someone elses grief.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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MWF
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Apr 30, 2007 11:56:29 GMT
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I watched 'Killer Road' - about the A46 in Lincolnshire - on More4 last night. IIRC this strech of road has more fatal accidents than any other. This programme had interviews with the relatives of the deceased and the people who first arrived at the accidents. Very sobering indeed. I saw the same program, horrific insight into the pain people feel losing someone in a car accident.
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Apr 30, 2007 12:18:08 GMT
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I saw the prog on the A46 too. Didnt really see the point in it TBH. Just a very depressing sad programme to watch.
For all the people who loose their lives think of the number who are saved. It must be a fantastic feeling to be a firefighter or policeman and to come across a nasty accident and pull a survivor out, or to be a doctor or a surgeon and save someones life.
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Last Edit: Apr 30, 2007 12:18:38 GMT by Lankytim
1987 Maestro 1.6 HL perkins diesel conversion 1986 Audi 100 Avant 1800cc on LPG 1979 Allegro Series 2 special 4 door 1500cc with vynil roof. IN BITS. HERITAGE ISSUES.
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