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Last Edit: Mar 3, 2014 14:45:12 GMT by HoTWire: fixed link
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randywanger_
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Amazing if it happens. I'll answer the 5 questions and send my response this evening. Everyone on here should do the same.
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I found this in there posted by one enlightened user; I have tweeked it a bit and sent it in.
The government are asking for public response to the questions on page 23: I have shown them below (in bold) to save to you time, along with the MSA recommended answers.
Q1. Do you agree with the proposal to give local authorities the powers to allow motor sport events on public roads subject to the local consultation? If you disagree please give reasons. Yes I agree. The UK leads the world in terms of motor sport with the industry generating an estimated £9bn for the economy annually and employing 41,000 people in 4,300 companies. Yet the UK lags behind much of the rest of the world, including the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man and Northern Ireland, in not allowing motor sport events to take place on closed public roads.
Allowing motor sport events to be held on closed public roads will provide an economic boost to host communities; support the growth of UK motor sport and the associated industry; allow engaging events to be created; and create a valuable platform for taking road safety messaging to the wider public.
Q2. Do you agree that local authorities should be able to close roads for motor sport events? If you disagree please give reasons. Yes I agree. Empowering local authorities to be able to close roads for motor sport events would represent a positive devolution of power. It will mean that local people, rather than politicians in Westminster, will be able to determine what happens on the roads in their region and will ensure that Parliament does not need to spend its valuable time debating whether or not to close a road somewhere in the country. It is an important principle that no organisation other than the Local Authority should be granted powers to close its roads, as this ensures that no event can be forced upon a region against the will of the locally elected Authority.
Q3. Do you agree that local authorities should have the power under certain circumstances to suspend the speed limit and applicable road traffic regulations? If there are any traffic regulations you would prefer not to see suspended, please give reasons. Yes, I agree that local authorities should have the power under certain circumstances to suspend the speed limit and applicable road traffic regulations. This is on the understanding that the road traffic regulations are replaced by established and robust sporting regulations, as laid down by the MSA and ACU, to ensure that all events are well organised, properly regulated and fully insured.
Q4. Do you agree that the Motor Sports Association and the Auto Cycle Union should be the “Authorising Authority” for any motor sport events on public roads? Yes I agree. The Motor Sports Association (MSA) and the Auto-Cycle Union (ACU) both have many decades of experience of governing four- and two-wheel motor sport in the UK. The MSA is recognised by motor sport’s world governing body, the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), as the sole national sporting authority for four-wheel motor sport in the UK. The ACU is similarly recognised by the Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme (FIM) as the national sporting authority for two-wheel motor sport in the British Isles. They are the only organisations with the experience, knowledge and resources necessary to act as the Authorising Authorities for any motor sport events on public roads.
With the MSA and ACU as Authorising Authorities, only drivers and riders who have been formally licensed for competition by the governing bodies would be eligible to take part in motor sport events on closed public roads. The MSA and ACU licensing structures are suitably robust and rigorously enforced to ensure that licensed competitors are suitably competent to take part in the motor sport events they enter.
Q5. Do you agree that the Sports Ground Safety Authority could provide valuable expertise and guidance to ensure motor sport events on roads can be delivered safely? No, I doubt that the SGSA would be able to add value in this environment. Both the Motor Sports Association (MSA) and the Auto-Cycle Union (ACU) operate comprehensive, long-established and successful risk management programmes for four- and two-wheel motor sport respectively.
Motor sport is a unique and complex sporting activity and requires specific experience and expertise to deal with its diverse events and venues, and especially to manage the risks associated with vehicles travelling at speed which is unique to our sport. It seems unlikely that the SGSA would be able to offer anything valuable in this context over and above the experts from the MSA and ACU, other than perhaps the facilitation of a forum for liaison with the necessary statutory bodies.
Furthermore, the involvement of another body simply introduces an additional layer of bureaucracy that inevitably adds costs to organisers and competitors alike.
At the very least copy and paste the above, or better still type your own reply if you have time and send it to:
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Have you sent your response yet?
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Doing it tonight. I REALLY want to see this happen. Everybody needs to be on this, it's totally achievable.
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luckygti
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I need to try harder!
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Done. Be interesting to see what happens. We have some great roads begging for some closed road action!!
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Brian Damaged
West Midlands
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This is an absolute game-changer as far as mainland British motorsport is concerned, whatever the discipline.
Come on people, use the time you'd spend whinging about T*p G*ar or free road tax and do something positive!
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this could be a good step towards getting some longer hillclimbs in the UK. I want to see a round of Berg Cup in the UK! Yet the UK lags behind much of the rest of the world, including the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man and Northern Ireland, in not allowing motor sport events to take place on closed public roads. I'd just like to point out, rather annoyedly, that NI (and other islands) is part of the UK. And while that just gets people annoyed, treating NI like some sort of invisible add-on that is only included in the "UK" term when it suits people and people using the term "UK" when what they really mean is "GB" - it does give you (that feel the need to join this consultation) some proper ammo, in that NI (as part of the UK) as well as the IOM (also in the UK) have successfully been doing this for many, many years. IIRC NI has one of, if not the, oldest continually running closed-road hillclimb event in the world. Croft Craigantlet NW200 IOM TT
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Mar 21, 2014 15:49:45 GMT
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Mar 21, 2014 17:58:14 GMT
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...as well as the IOM (also in the UK) Isle of Man is a British CROWN Dependency and is not part of the UK... But otherwise yeah, what you said.
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bl1300
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Mar 21, 2014 19:07:35 GMT
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I have some concerns about this sort of thing. Now don't get me wrong I'm all for motorsport.
My concern is this.
The road I live on is a very small mountain road and this year a few weeks ago the road was closed overnight for the Rali Bro Caron. Great having it passing my house as a spectator who likes cars the problem came from the fact the road was shut and we nearly lost livestock due to the vet being unable to get to the farm due to the road closure.
Now I have no problem with this sort of thing as long as the road can be quickly reopened for emergency access to give treatment to people and animals who live on the road.
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I think you will find that the road was not actually closed,The Bro caron is a road rally and as such MUST adhere to speed limits therefore a vet would have been allowed through,at least that's the way it was when I was involved with club rallying many years ago?
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