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Feb 26, 2014 17:15:41 GMT
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Hi,
Having been inspired by all the info in the Making Panels section, I was wondering what tools to put on my birthday list.
I have a few bits and pieces but was looking to add some tools specifically for panel repair and fabrication, such as dollies, hammers and chisels. Recommended medium priced Power File etc.
I have found a Clarke 7 Piece Panel Beating set, any comments, it doesn't have a Ball Pein though and is probably aimed at knocking out dents rather than making panels.
Already have a Mig Welder, 2 x Bosch Angle Grinders, Cross Pein Hammer.
Ta
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93fxdl
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Feb 26, 2014 19:36:03 GMT
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Suggestions, lump of steel to use as an anvil, cleko pins for holding panels in place, various mole/vice grip type clamps, jodler/edge setter, English wheel, shrinker/stretcher. Last two probably not birthday present prices but can add to wishlist
Ttfn Glenn
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Feb 26, 2014 23:11:30 GMT
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I have a hammer/ dolly set similar to this www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cpb7c-7pce-panel-beating-setGood clamps are a must and a proper cutter and folder is very useful but expensive but a bench edge and clamps can be used to good effect, or of course that neat bit of homemade kit in the other thread. Used along with my leg (can be painful), sandbag, length of drain pipe, bits of wood and anything else that is within reach and can be used to shape metal. A joggler (edge setter) is a good bit of kit and can save a lot of time. |
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I find a shrinker/stretcher invaluable when making bits and pieces. The things you'll need most are practice and patience though.  |
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Feb 27, 2014 11:02:06 GMT
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Good tin snips make cutting to size/shape much easier, gilbow is a brand that was one of the best, but don't know if still good. A profile gauge can be useful but cardboard and scissors will work just as well. Get some metal in stock and practice, some old panels from the scrappy could be a source, possibly get a shabby door and cut bits off then practice repairs making patches.
Ttfn Glenn
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Feb 27, 2014 16:34:47 GMT
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I have a hammer/ dolly set similar to this www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cpb7c-7pce-panel-beating-setGood clamps are a must and a proper cutter and folder is very useful but expensive but a bench edge and clamps can be used to good effect, or of course that neat bit of homemade kit in the other thread. Used along with my leg (can be painful), sandbag, length of drain pipe, bits of wood and anything else that is within reach and can be used to shape metal. A joggler (edge setter) is a good bit of kit and can save a lot of time. Yeh that's the 7 piece set that I was referring to, they also do a slightly more expensive hickory handle version here which I thought about opting for in case a handle change is required? What are all the various dollies used for? Got a couple of G Clamps but have some more on my wish list and will be making tonybmw's bender next week with any luck, folder may follow. |
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Feb 27, 2014 16:39:51 GMT
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Suggestions, lump of steel to use as an anvil, cleko pins for holding panels in place, various mole/vice grip type clamps, jodler/edge setter, English wheel, shrinker/stretcher. Last two probably not birthday present prices but can add to wishlist Ttfn Glenn I'll be sourcing some lumps of steel (and copper hopefully) next week. Already got panel clamps on my wish list. I have a selection of Mole Grips and a couple of clamps (need more) Just googled Shrinker / Stretcher's here these would probably be the limit? As for an English wheel here the're a bit pricy so i'll have to do without unless I really get stuck in to it. |
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Feb 27, 2014 16:41:39 GMT
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I find a shrinker/stretcher invaluable when making bits and pieces. The things you'll need most are practice and patience though. Beats a hammer I suppose and in the beginning more successful so probably a good initial investment. Searched on E-Bay for practice and patience but no joy :-) |
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Feb 27, 2014 20:39:03 GMT
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Saw these on the Mig Welding Forum some time ago, someone on there had also made there own, they look simple enough to make, to make them even easier to make I could swap the square bar for round bar and simply drill a hole in the sheet metal to fit the bar through, unless using round bar would make a dent in the panels as the pressure will only be on the leading edge? Also I popped into a small Home Hardware Store in my villiage, looking for a Ball Pein Hammer, the only one they had was £15.38!! Think I'll wait for the Boot Sale season to start up :-) |
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Sounds obvious , but a good big vice ,a record if you have the money . A gas set , oxy acetylene or oxy propane is usefull for making fabrication tools , bending bars for tools etc . You will find that you will be able to make lots of stuff your self .
If you can get one cheap and localish a fly press is usefull .
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Yes you can use round bar, you only need to nip up enough to hold, you will probably buckle the box before doing any damage.
+1 for a decent bench vice, plus a solid bench to mount it to, not a workmate type thing,
My view on a ballpein hammer is, big is better you can tap gently with a big one but you can't pound with a small one
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If you have the space a vice mounted on a piece of I section /RSJ bolted to the floor lets you get around a vice and can be more use than a bench mounted one .
Plus the basics , scribes , centre punch /auto centre punch , metal protractor , metal rule , markers/pencils .
I would also get [ if you have air ] a 90 degree grinder and a normal die grinder , they are easier to do fine stuff than a big angle grinder.
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What are all the various dollies used for? Bending, stretching, shrinking and general shaping used the hammers and pieces of wood. I would take a guess that there is a Haynes type book you could buy as an instruction guide. I am mostly self taught with panel work but to date have successfully restored several classic cars so don't know 100% how to use the sets correctly so I have learnt but trial and error. |
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