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Jan 11, 2014 21:30:33 GMT
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I am contemplating a new project, got a 20k budget and i know both are do able for the budget as I can do most of the work myself. Karmann Ghia with a Subaru turbo engine using the suburu 5 speed and box and swapping the drive direction via subarugears kit something like this guy has done linkor a volvo p1800 with a volvo t4 engine, a bit more of a straight forward swap, but still a lot of work i know. i will be using the car when its done as a daily driver and a bit of a sleeper  so what are your thoughts? |
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thooms
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Jan 11, 2014 21:35:12 GMT
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P1800. You see so few of them around!  Go go go! |
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Jan 11, 2014 21:44:03 GMT
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i am more of a fan of the coupe, i just like the rear on them, but i like the vw also so its a hard choice   |
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Last Edit: Jan 11, 2014 21:45:54 GMT by sleeper
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Jan 11, 2014 22:00:01 GMT
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After owning a P1800 and the more common 1800S make sure you get the best body you can find otherwise you will find that most of your budget can be swallowed up very quickly even if you do the work yourself. Full sills for mine (parts only) were £960 and I was quoted £1700 for each wing ! rear wheel arch repair panels were over £200 each. Whether thing have changed over the years I have no idea but a rough P1800 / 1800S is E Type money to restore. What about the Type 34 Karmann Ghia ?  Paul H BTW I'd love another P1800 (mine was a Jensen built version) |
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Jan 11, 2014 22:09:20 GMT
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not a fan of the lines of the type 34 and yeah, from previous projects i will be spending money on a car with a half decent body to start
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EmDee
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Jan 11, 2014 22:19:47 GMT
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I vote you go for the one with the fewest votes.
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Jan 11, 2014 22:44:58 GMT
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Volvo ftw
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the ghia so much better looking (i think) also the dub scene will mean it will hold
value better
and enzo himself once said the karmann ghia is the most beautiful car ever designed
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Last Edit: Jan 12, 2014 2:29:48 GMT by gary1998
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Both great looking cars and should make a great project.
The Ghia is prettier.
The P1800 is more unusual.
Even after those sorts of modifications, the drive of either will both very characterised by the original DNA. Do you have a preference for either in standard spec? Rear engined versus front engined will always be a contrast!
People on here will just give you their personal opinion; ranging from total ignorance to first hand experience. I'm kind of in the total ignorance camp because in relaity I know little about owning either.
I would do the Volvo I think. I have really started hankering after a P1800 the last couple of years. They are more handsome than beautiful, but for me, the relative rarity compared to a Ghia makes them a lot more desirable. They seem pretty welll put together, the interior has a great splash of style, and appears a lot less utilatarian than a Beetle, I mean, Ghia. They have a refined cool about them, like they don't shout too loud, but actually look better the more you look. T4 engine sounds interesting. Would the 2.4 T5 engine and 6 speed box fit? They are phenonemal. So refined, and 300bhp is available with just a remap.
I think Ghias look great, but I personally find the VW modding scene a turn off. They are such a 'typical' car to buy, that people seem to have to work really hard on building something that people haven't done before. If you want to be individual, why start off with a car that isn't?
This is less the case with a Ghia, than a Golf for example, but it still applies for me.
Nice dilemma to have!
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Fossilfish
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Jan 12, 2014 14:44:42 GMT
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the ghia so much better looking (i think) also the dub scene will mean it will hold value better and enzo himself once said the karmann ghia is the most beautiful car ever designed He said that about the E type. P1800 ES perhaps, saw the below car at a owners club meet and would look tasty with wider rear wheels and your engine swap  |
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Last Edit: Jan 12, 2014 14:48:47 GMT by Fossilfish
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Jan 12, 2014 15:40:56 GMT
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Last Edit: Jan 12, 2014 15:54:11 GMT by Porsche
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Jan 12, 2014 17:52:14 GMT
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A boxster with a wrx engine and ghia bodywork would be awesome.
I think the ghia is a pretty car but i cant imagine they handle much better than a beetle.
I also love the look of the volvos.
Not much help any of that really lol.
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rxv8
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Jan 12, 2014 22:03:01 GMT
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I'd say volvo,how about a 2 dr amazon they look better than the p1800...
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Jan 12, 2014 22:28:37 GMT
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I'd say volvo,how about a 2 dr amazon they look better than the p1800... I beg to differ. They are both nice looking cars, but in standard guise, no way does the Volvo Amazon look better than a Volvo P1800.   |
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mungo
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Jan 12, 2014 22:56:44 GMT
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Ghia every time ... bit biased though. Here's mine a 56' lowlight :  Looks a bit better now .... should look like this when it's done:  |
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56' bug 2332 +ida's
56' lowlight ghia
72' bus 1600 devon
67' type 3 square - gone
83' gti - gone
90' gti 16v - gone
82' chevette - gone
70' GP1 Beach buggy -gone
78' lightweight landrover 3L v6 -gone
89' gti - gone
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