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Yesterday i took the cylinder head for the panda to a local well known garage, i had already rang them and they said a skim was £30, but if after checking it didn't need a skim there was no charge.
I told them to check the valves too.
I left my phone number and they said they would ring me and let me know what is needed, and made a point of saying they wouldn't do any work without letting me know first.
Well i have just had a phone call off them saying the cylinder head has been fully refurbed and had new valves, oil seals, and stem seals at a cost of £142.
I never got the phone call off them saying how much it would be. What do i do?
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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get them to meet half way. if it needed it, then it needed it. but they should have checked, because for example you might have a spare at home that just needed a skim. You could be a lot less helpful than that, so i think a middle ground would be good. (well that's what i'd try.)
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'72 Opel kadett coupe
'77 Opel kadett city sr
'92 Peugeot 309 Gti Goodwood
'93 Peugeot 205 GL auto
'88 Citroen BX 16v(Breaking)
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Don't mind paying if it needed it, but it's the fact i didn't get the option. Also i do have another engine in the garage which has done 22000 miles, but i wanted to try and keep the engine totally original to the car.
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Also the "full refurb" is actually just the new valves, seals, and a skim
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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With unleaded heads you don't reseat the valves like unleaded heads with cutting paste and lapping them together. You change the valve for new and then grind the seat with a purpose made tool. Not something a garage would normally have so did they take it to a automotive machine shop to regrind the seats ? If it's been skimmed as well then I'd suspect they had to take it to somewhere that did a proper job and of course that bumps up the price. To be honest although I wouldn't be happy either the price is seems reasonable - dismantling, taking to machine shop, waiting time or having to make another trip to machine shop to collect, new parts and reassembly all add up.
Paul H
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The garage i took the cylinder head to are a machine shop, and specialise in Rebores and engine rebuilds.
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Do you suspect incompetence or them being up to no good? I think you need to speak to the gaffer, or the owner or whoever really makes the decisions.
As above, meeting them halfway seems like the logical compromise for an easy life for both of you
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Not good news - will be interested to hear how this goes Can you PM the name of the garage just in case it's one of the ones I use when I need work done ... Ta muchly
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Well i went to collect the head and was told that the only way to check the valves is to remove them, and once this is done it was pointless putting old valves back in, so he fitted new ones. Paid £104 though, so not as bad, but would have been nice if they had rang first before doing the work.
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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That really depends on the cost of the valves, but still not a bad price with a skim though,
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speedy88
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Yeah that's a pretty good price considering what was done.
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Yep, should have called but that sounds a good price considering what was done and that there's 20 per cent VAT included?
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Yeah that was including vat.
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1993 Fiat Panda Selecta 2003 Vauxhall Combo 1.7DI van 2006 Mercedes Kompressor Evolution-S AMG SportCoupé
"You think you hate it now, wait til you drive it"
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Sounds a fair price to me too thought the head didn't need skimming tho?
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