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Dec 28, 2013 21:55:17 GMT
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Right, after researching into converting my Merc to manual, I think it's going to cost too much to have the same power, so i'm thinking of spending a little bit more and having an engine conversion... i'll rip the engine and box out of the Merc, along with alot of other parts to make it much easier, and the doner car, will either be a subaru impreza, or a straight 6 2.5 BMW E46 (running)... The OBC's and climate control ETC aren't needed, i just want a drifter, so as long as it runs, the lights work etc, that's all i'm bothered about...so come on, someone give me a price... I'm in Sunderland
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stealthstylz
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I reckon you'd be looking at the thick end of 3 grand as a drive in drive out car. There is a lot of unknowns in there until you actually tried dropping the motor in the engine bay, never mind the time wiring it all up to get it to run, getting the clutch to work, getting a propshaft made and all the billion and one things that make engine conversions time consuming, which would have to incur labour charges.
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How much power do you need the car to have?
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1988 Mercedes w124 superturbo diesel 508hp 1996 Mercedes s124 e300 diesel wagon 1990 BMW E30 V8 M60 powered! 1999 BMW E46 323ci project car
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Mark
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Why not just pick up a W124 300E?
Alternatively, buy a W210 300td, stick on a manual pump and you'll get 200bhp and fuel economy...
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Dec 29, 2013 10:01:23 GMT
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why not just drift the scooby or e46 your guna buy
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Dec 29, 2013 10:15:57 GMT
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How much power do you need the car to have? quite a bit, i might just end up buying a w124 manual and sticking that in...how much of a mess on are those engines to fit?
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Dec 29, 2013 12:34:56 GMT
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How much power do you need the car to have? quite a bit, i might just end up buying a w124 manual and sticking that in...how much of a mess on are those engines to fit? You will struggle to find a 6cyl manual w124, what I normally do is find a 190e 2.6 manual to use as a donor car. That will give you the correct flywheel, clutch, gearbox and gear lever, to work with the m103/4 engines. I've never tried to fit that pedal box into a w123, but I'm sure it can be modified to do the job. The gearbox cross member needs a cutnshut job to take the other gearbox too. The wiring is fairly easy to sort out as well, depending which engine you use it could land up with up to 235hp. To give you some inspiration, here's a 3.2 I fitted to a 190e:
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Last Edit: Dec 29, 2013 12:41:13 GMT by carat 3.6
1988 Mercedes w124 superturbo diesel 508hp 1996 Mercedes s124 e300 diesel wagon 1990 BMW E30 V8 M60 powered! 1999 BMW E46 323ci project car
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craig1010cc
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Dec 29, 2013 12:40:51 GMT
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I assume this would be your 1st drifter? Based on that and the likelyhood of it ending up in a wall, a better plan would be to find your donor vehicle and drift that. Then once the shell is too banana shaped to be used, you could then gut it for the conversion. Far better to have a £500 snotter to practice in now rather than spending a few grand and many months work doing an engine swap to then bend the shell on the first time out.
I think going with a straight 6 is the better plan, I wouldn't have thought that the scooby lump would have gone in that easily
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Dec 29, 2013 12:42:34 GMT
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So a 2.6 190E will be the best donor car?
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Dec 29, 2013 12:50:49 GMT
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So a 2.6 190E will be the best donor car? The 190 will give you the parts to build a manual 6cyl conversion, but you need the 3.0 or 3.2 engine from a w124 to give you the power. You could stay auto for the time being, and just buy an w124 300 or 320, and fit everything from that.
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1988 Mercedes w124 superturbo diesel 508hp 1996 Mercedes s124 e300 diesel wagon 1990 BMW E30 V8 M60 powered! 1999 BMW E46 323ci project car
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