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Sept 4, 2015 18:19:31 GMT
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Could be an induced electrical gremlin. I had one this year with my R75 which was slightly worrying at the time... We went to Dorset for three reasons; 1) my daughters intended's parents and his child live there, 2) SWMBO wanted a holiday away and 3) I wanted to 'do' the Swanage Railway Diesel Gala. Anyhoo, the Saturday, 'Er Indoors plus two herbs wander off into Poole for the day, I head over to Swanage and park near the station in the big car park. Day passes, no problems until trying to get the car open again to go home... will the beggar open on the plipper.. No. Tried the key.... no. Eventually the plipper got it open and de-immobilised, but it ran like a bag of bolts until Corfe. After that, sweet as a nut. Now then, you'd put that down to a 'gremlin' in the works, but for the fact I had to nip back the next morning and deliver some stuff to one of the trade stands on the station. This time I had a carfull and all was great until entering Swanage, when the engine started misfiring and spluttering. I stopped in the same car park, we all went off and did our own thing for a couple of hours and once back at the car it refused to allow us back in again. I nearly got Green Flag out, but eventually it opened, de-immobilised and ran like a bag of cr@p until out of Swanage. Never missed a beat the rest of the holiday or had alarm issues since.... Hmmmm... Just makes me wonder if there wasa a transmitter in the area that blasted out just those frequencies to screw the car up; maybe someone has something that can induse a signal to freak out the P38 near the Mall?
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Rover Metro - The TARDIS - brake problems.....Stored Rover 75 - Barge MGZTT Cdti 160+ - Winter Hack and Audi botherer... MGF - The Golden Shot...Stored Project Minion........ Can you see the theme?
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Sept 4, 2015 23:15:04 GMT
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Aye, the P38 was notorious for being affected by RF interference. This mainly took the form of preventing the central locking operating or, if the car was left over a longer period, battery drain as the BECM would keep "waking up" in response to these stray signals. LR brought out, I think, two updated RF receivers for the vehicle that were supposed to overcome this. However, the easiest frig was to unplug the receiver from the side window mounted aerial and just stand closer when opening/locking. My central locking doesn't work at the moment and I have no remote fobs anyway, so not a major issue for me!
However, I've never come across an incident of stray RF affecting the EAS, although I suppose there's a first time for everything with a Range Rover. I've had a good look around the area and whilst there are a few phone masts dotted around, there's nowt looking like it's putting out a strong enough signal nearby to cause a problem. We're miles from the airport as well and not on the flight-path, so no beacons of any sort around.
Funnily, I had to revisit the same mall yesterday, went up the ramp, parked in my usual spot, got out and locked the door and stayed to watch. Obligingly, within 15 seconds or so there was a couple of clicks from the EAS box, and down she went. So I started her up again, up she goes and this time when I switched off and locked up, she stayed put. No fault logged on Nanocom and behaves fine everywhere else.
So either there's a strong signal source I'm missing, or it has something to do with the way the EAS interprets a long left hand climb? The only other thing it could be, but I can't remember the timing of installation, is that they've recently fitted those natty little LED lights over the parking spaces which go red when a vehicle parks. I'd always assumed that they operated by breaking a beam but as there's no reflector on the floor (obviously), perhaps it's a height sensor and therefore sends out a signal, albeit low power, but one which is very close to the car?
Hmmm, definitely a characteristic!
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Sept 5, 2015 21:13:27 GMT
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Induction loop in the floor?
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Rover Metro - The TARDIS - brake problems.....Stored Rover 75 - Barge MGZTT Cdti 160+ - Winter Hack and Audi botherer... MGF - The Golden Shot...Stored Project Minion........ Can you see the theme?
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Sept 5, 2015 22:04:43 GMT
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Induction loop in the floor? No, it's a fairly old mall and they did no digging, it's all overhead. I had a nose around the net for these systems and it appears they use all sorts of different sensors, from ultra-sonic to Bluetooth.
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I'm thinking an exorcism just to be sure would make an interesting entry for the blog though.....
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Sept 8, 2015 23:13:27 GMT
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I'm thinking an exorcism just to be sure would make an interesting entry for the blog though..... You’re right, it would but… Given what Madam just paid to have the remodelled Tondo house blessed by a man in a frock sprinkling a load of water over everything, then it would be way more cost effective to nip across to the Mr Woman club over the road and pay one of the lady boys to drop a frozen ice margarita all over the ECU. Gotta be cheaper, even if it doesn't get rid of the ghosts. Anyway I’m going to hava another play with the EAS settings as I think, having done some more research, that whilst the extended and standard heights are now correct, I’ve got the highway and access too close together which may be confusing things so I’ll bring highway up to just an inch below standard and see of that sorts things out. To medical matters, the crater in the ankle is finally diminishing in size, although still giving a lot of gyp, especially when it’s abused clambering in and out of locomotives, like yesterday. That being the case, I’m rescheduling the much awaited Bataan road-trip for the weekend after next. This is chosen for two reasons. One, the aforementioned healing ankle and two, my little radiator chappy has promised delivery later this week or early next, which gives me chance to get that fitted along with new pipes, stat and some lovely fresh coolant. Possibly.
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Last Edit: Sept 9, 2015 22:20:20 GMT by georgeb
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Battenberg
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Sept 11, 2015 7:36:34 GMT
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Hi George, we have an office in Makati and I understand the Weather is kicking off again, are you battening down the hatches?
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Current Fleet: 1968 Wolseley 1000 2022 BMW 430xd MHT Coupe 2007 L200 Animal - Dog walking transport 1998 318is Coupe 2007 Mini Cooper Supercharged 1989 BMW 530 - in storage
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Sept 11, 2015 8:49:41 GMT
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Hi George, we have an office in Makati and I understand the Weather is kicking off again, are you battening down the hatches? Dunno what they're telling you but it's just another thunderstorm on the way. We've had one pretty much every night this week and damned spectacular they've been as well. No real hassle though. Just checking the weather, we've no typhoon warnings around and, as you can imagine, they're something we tend look out for. Looking from my apartment, it's fairly dull and grey over Makati, but then it's pretty much a dull and grey place to live anyway! What does your crowd do here?
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Last Edit: Sept 11, 2015 8:58:47 GMT by georgeb
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Battenberg
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Sept 11, 2015 11:56:23 GMT
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Hey George, accountancy Software, we employ around 500 people.
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Current Fleet: 1968 Wolseley 1000 2022 BMW 430xd MHT Coupe 2007 L200 Animal - Dog walking transport 1998 318is Coupe 2007 Mini Cooper Supercharged 1989 BMW 530 - in storage
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Sept 12, 2015 23:52:37 GMT
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I had a chat with a mate who works for JLR development, he said RF from masts can cause a P38 to do all manner of odd things. He said a 'tea stop' on the road test circuit at a certain garden centre is now used to test cars immunity after the top boss got stranded there with an important client after his cars controls went into meltdown... all because of a radio antenna nearby.
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Rover Metro - The TARDIS - brake problems.....Stored Rover 75 - Barge MGZTT Cdti 160+ - Winter Hack and Audi botherer... MGF - The Golden Shot...Stored Project Minion........ Can you see the theme?
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Sept 13, 2015 19:21:30 GMT
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Hey George, accountancy Software, we employ around 500 people. There's lots of companies outsourcing to the Philippines. A combination of cheap labour costs and reasonable standards of English and education make it an attractive place. My old engineering company do much of their CAD work here and in Thailand. I had a chat with a mate who works for JLR development, he said RF from masts can cause a P38 to do all manner of odd things. He said a 'tea stop' on the road test circuit at a certain garden centre is now used to test cars immunity after the top boss got stranded there with an important client after his cars controls went into meltdown... all because of a radio antenna nearby. Good business for the cafe though! I know they never really cured it with the '38 but it sounds like an ongoing problem. I know when I used to leave my old one at Manchester Airport for a week at a time, depending on which car park I got into, it was often touch and go whether there was any juice in the battery when I got back. Again, the BECM being kept awake by RF and draining the battery. To be fair, it only stranded me properly once and that was partly my fault. Note to self:- Do not leave the key in the ignition with the door shut when you disconnect the battery. It will lock you out!
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Sept 18, 2015 10:43:32 GMT
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Got a call from Madam's driver today. "Sir George, I get many message when I start engine, and the car won't move. What's wrong?" "It's a Toyota, son" So there we go. In nearly two years of ownership, the most unreliable car on the planet (according to the doom-sayers) and which, according to Madam, 'is very old' has never left me immobile, whereas "The car in front is a Toyota", at just over a fully dealer serviced 12 months, is only in front of the queue behind it whilst sat at the side of the road with the bonnet up. Karma
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Sept 19, 2015 6:08:00 GMT
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Just replace the door latch, he says. Won't take long, he says. Ham cranker.
Y'see P38 door locks don't love being operated manually, having been intended to work off the remote, what I have not got. So after a while, they start to get a bit shirty with the end result of throwing a complete hissy-fit and locking you out.
The old one was getting a bit sticky and given it's cheaper to order a new latch every week from the UK than buy a remote here (GBP 450 anyone?) replacement was this morning's job. Got one in stock, see?
What a complete and utter b'stard!
I thought today would be a good day to do this as my car park neighbor has been away all week so I could turn mine around and be able to fully open the drivers door. Guess what? Yup, the curse word was back from wherever he's been. Okay, have to live with the door only half open against a wall.
It's at this point that you realise that a career in gynecology would have been most beneficial.
Fought me every inch of the way until finally I got all four leavers attached and was bolted back together. 'Ping'. Ah, that'll be the interior door handle cable flying loose. Take out bolts, reinstall cable, tighten latch.
Not bad, just four hours using only touch and a torch.
Next time I just won't bother locking it. Everyone's too scared to nick it. They may have to replace the latch one day!
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Sept 21, 2015 7:13:13 GMT
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Hmm, different. Having manfully sorted the door latch out, it was time to investigate the vibration I was suddenly getting under both acceleration and the overrun. It felt very much Like prop UJ's but I only changed them a few weeks ago. Thinking horrible thoughts it was time to brave the Pit of Hell. I donned overalls and headed downstairs. Crawling underneath (EAS makes this easy ) I shone the torch around a bit and thought, "Should that look that way?" One of the spiders in the gearbox end of the front shaft had no bearing cap. My first thought was that I'd not inserted the circlip correctly (how could you do it wrong?). But anyway the few weeks old UJ was knackered. Fortunately I had a new shaft upstairs, so the easiest answer was to just replace the whole thing, fitting a new joint to the old shaft at leisure. On removal, I found this... As you'll note, the circlip is still very firmly in place. So where's the bloody bearing cap gone then? Answers on a postcard to George, Manila, Philippines. Obviously it'll never get here! New shaft fitted, only slight heat exhaustion, and vibration gone. Never seen this one before.
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Last Edit: Sept 21, 2015 7:14:32 GMT by georgeb
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Sept 22, 2015 1:38:15 GMT
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And following up on Madam's stranded Hateful Toyota Fortuna. Some of you may remember this... Yup, a severe shortage of engine due to rats! All rewired now and functional (as much as it ever can be) again. She's been parking it in that haven of Rathood that is Tondo, "Because that where driver live" however, it will now be coming to reside in Malate, "Because that's where car eating rats don't." Anyway, the driver has the house motorbike at his disposal so he can come to us that way. Probably a bloody sight quicker as well. Turns out the warranty has now expired as well, so it'll be maintained in-house from now on. Hmm, wonder what I can charge for a full service? At least you can get parts from 7-Eleven!
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adam73bgt
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Sept 22, 2015 7:28:55 GMT
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Did you get the engine washed though?
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Sept 22, 2015 8:40:45 GMT
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And following up on Madam's stranded Hateful Toyota Fortuna. Some of you may remember this... Yup, a severe shortage of engine due to rats! All rewired now and functional (as much as it ever can be) again. She's been parking it in that haven of Rathood that is Tondo, "Because that where driver live" however, it will now be coming to reside in Malate, "Because that's where car eating rats don't." Anyway, the driver has the house motorbike at his disposal so he can come to us that way. Probably a bloody sight quicker as well. Turns out the warranty has now expired as well, so it'll be maintained in-house from now on. Hmm, wonder what I can charge for a full service? At least you can get parts from 7-Eleven! I remember this very well, I still have a copy printed off and on the wall next to my desk at work......people think I'm mad. Speaking of unhelpful conditions in which to work on cars - I'm off out into the curse word rain to see if I can get my golfs brakes to work......
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Sept 23, 2015 0:17:43 GMT
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Did you get the engine washed though? Wouldn't make any difference to a Tondo rat Adam, they'll eat owt. Think land-based Great Whites. They are just about at the top of the food chain there (apart from weekends, when my two regain ascendency) and you have to keep counting elderly relatives in case one goes missing. By contrast, Malate rats seem almost benign in their lifestyle and, generally, don't eat cars. Or old ladies for that matter. Just pets I remember this very well, I still have a copy printed off and on the wall next to my desk at work......people think I'm mad. Speaking of unhelpful conditions in which to work on cars - I'm off out into the curse word rain to see if I can get my golfs brakes to work...... I can see why they may have doubts! Gotta say that my complaining aside about working in the Pit of Hell, at least rain and cold never stop play here and despite the heat, I don't miss that! Today, having changed oil and filter last week, I'll be crawling around underneath checking all the other fluids in gentle preparation for the Great Bataan Roadtrip, whenever this bloody ankle decides to allow it! Also, having replaced all the silver "Range Rover" badges with gray, I kinda like the stealth look that's going on, so may get the lights tinted along with the perspex license plate covers. Go to the Dark Side. Better be careful about using that phrase here though, it has other connotations, especially in Ermita!
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Sept 24, 2015 22:41:42 GMT
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Those of you with elephantine memories may recall that back in March I did a deal for my new OEM radiator as a p/ex for an all metal one, thus doing away with plastic header tanks and leaving me something I can get repaired at any old radiator shop, of which there are millions. Well last night, the bloody thing only went and turned up! Six months, gotta be a record of some sort there? I've got all the pipes with new clips, a new genuine thermostat and 95 gallons of coolant, so that'll be the in-between rugby, racing and beer job this weekend. Oh, and whilst I was crawling around underneath t'other day, I noticed one of the drop links on the front ARB was a tad shot, so I've ordered up a couple from Rimmers along with new bushes and they'll be done prior to the Great Bataan Roadtrip. Then the only thing that'll be holding that up is the ankle, which continues to improve but there's still a large hole to fill in yet. Maybe a couple of weeks?
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Last Edit: Sept 24, 2015 22:45:00 GMT by georgeb
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Sept 25, 2015 3:03:12 GMT
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Finally read this thread all the way through. I was frequently reminded why I own old cars that do not have ten thousand bits of electronic wizardry to fail at the most inconvenient moment. You must really love that Range Rover to keep struggling on with it although I can appreciate the huge coolness factor involved in smoking around in such a gangster spec vehicle in a country where petrol is so cheap that you don't have to care how much it hogs. Best of luck with it and your leg injury.
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