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Apr 25, 2014 17:45:24 GMT
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Absolute top work, that chassis looks beautyful, those Cosmics will suit the car to a T, wish i had your skill and patience when i was 25 never mind 15  Looking forward to seeing this done so get on with it |
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Apr 25, 2014 19:41:28 GMT
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Hi missed this build, but now bookmarked, great progress on the chassis. You body is very poor for a saloon must have been leaking that webasto You could find better bulkhead on fleebay as saloon ones still go cheap, l ended up buying two new floors for mine and fabricated the rest. Good luck with the welding, and for mig welder if you are welding inside then gas shield is best and any welder with cooling fan is best at least 120amps, don't use steel to thin though or it will burn away to easily go for 1.2mm thick. Also use 0.8mm wire because it does not kink so easily as 0.6mm |
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triumphandy1
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Apr 25, 2014 19:58:42 GMT
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Thanks for the comments guys. I've just found something that's massively annoying. I tried to put the finished wheel on and found that it wouldn't fit over the studs. After a bit of measuring it turns out that despite being sold to me as triumph herald wheels (though to be fair the seller never actually had them on his herald so he couldn't have known) they are 4" pcd and one of the wheels is 5 1/2" wide. So now I'm left with 3 5" wide 4" pcd wheels that will not fit my herald and one 5 1/2" wide 4" pcd wheel that wont fit my herald. Wish I hadn't spent 3 hours polishing that wheel now! Oh well worse things have happened if anyone wants some 4" pcd cosmic's then you know where I am |
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triumphandy1
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Apr 26, 2014 14:30:12 GMT
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triumphandy1
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May 18, 2014 15:33:07 GMT
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Just a small update I've got some more parts  2x footwell repair panels and 4x front body mounts (from chic doig sports cars really well made thick steel, better than the originals) and a tread plate repair panel that i am going to cut up to make these sections  Also got all my welding equipment just need a gas bottle before I can start welding, does anyone know of a good place? Exams and school finish soon then I can really crack on with the build! Cheers Andy |
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oakesy
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May 18, 2014 16:31:36 GMT
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Good work These exams are really cutting down on my car time too  |
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'71 Jaguar XJ6 in Blue
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May 18, 2014 16:32:21 GMT
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Cracking work, looks like you've got a good set of skills. Should turn out absolutely beautiful!
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May 19, 2014 10:47:05 GMT
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I use theses www.hobbyweld.co.uk/ works out cheaper than renting, think was about 65 quid surcharge and then 36 quid for refil Oh forgot to say cracking on well, and nearly forgot if your welder idin't comw with bottle regulator then you'll have to get that aswell. |
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triumphandy1
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Jun 17, 2014 20:26:15 GMT
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Cheers for the comments guys. Well exams are finished now (finally  ) so work on the herald has been getting going again. Firstly the gearbox has been stripped and I found it to be in excellent condition, hardly worn at all. So its been put back together with new gaskets, oil seal (I'm waiting for another one, the one I got sent was too big) and bushes for the remote gear change and everything's generally been degreased, cleaned up and painted inside and out.  Then back on the chassis with new mounts and the cool aftermarket gear knob that came with the car reinstated  And finally I saw a genuine triumphtune rocker cover going cheap on eBay so bought it with the idea that I would re polish and paint it and sell it on. However when it was finished I really liked it so its staying now  Cheers Andy |
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triumphandy1
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Jun 29, 2014 22:00:00 GMT
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Well the engine rebuild has started. I already had the head off the block which made the engine easier to handle. I started taking the ancillaries off to find a worrying amount of end float play (5mm!). I removed the sump to find no obvious damage and two thrust washers milling about in the bottom of the engine. I don't know if I dislodged them or if they were like that when they came out of the car but ether way I'm glad I never got it running! I removed the crank, rods and pistons to find that the pistons are +020 hepolite and the big ends and main bearings are +010. But everything was in good condition the crank and the pistons are in really nice so I'm guessing the rebore and crank grind cannot have been done that many miles ago. After many hours of cleaning with degreaser and a tooth brush  I've started painting up the timing cover and sump  The bores look good no damage or signs of ware  Unfortunately the cam and followers are not so good (oh well its a good excuse to get a spitfire profile one from Canley's )  The head looks to be in ok condition so it will get new valve springs and hardened valve seats for unleaded fuel  So overall its not too bad so the plan is -new + 010 big ends & main bearings -new + 020 piston rings -new small ends -duplex timing gear -Cleaning up the ports on the head (nothing too radical) -spitfire profile cam & new followers -new core plugs, oil seals and gaskets -get the crank balanced -balance the rods and pistons -reconditioned rocker gear (they have been knackered through oil stravation) -external rocker gear oil feed Cheers Andy |
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Jun 29, 2014 22:16:38 GMT
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You need to have a careful look at the rear main bearing saddle/cap and the crankshaft thrust surfaces either side if the rear main. If the engine has run for more than a very short time with the thrust washer out, there will be damage. Dependant on time run it could be an easy fix, a harder/more costly fix or scrap.
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-external rocker gear oil feed Please don't. It's never needed unless you've got no oil going to the head which would be caused by blocked oil ways. In which case it's like putting a plaster on a gaping cut. I didn't want one on my Spitfire engine but someone insisted on it, including restriction to make it smaller. I lost all my oil on the autobahn and a month later melted a big end bearing. I can't help but suspect it was related. Funnily enough despite saying how it wasn't and could never be a problem they no longer run one on theirs... The rockers don't need a lot of oil and if you get too much it and its mist get drawn into the breather and either burnt through the carbs or into a catch tank - depending on what arrangement you have. Don't fit a silly filter on the side of the rocker box either! |
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triumphandy1
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You need to have a careful look at the rear main bearing saddle/cap and the crankshaft thrust surfaces either side if the rear main. If the engine has run for more than a very short time with the thrust washer out, there will be damage. Dependant on time run it could be an easy fix, a harder/more costly fix or scrap. Nick I have had a look at the crank thrust surfaces and bearing cap and cannot feel or see any ware so ether I've knocked the thrust washers out when I was stripping the engine or it hasn't been run. Cheers |
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triumphandy1
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-external rocker gear oil feed Please don't. It's never needed unless you've got no oil going to the head which would be caused by blocked oil ways. In which case it's like putting a plaster on a gaping cut. I didn't want one on my Spitfire engine but someone insisted on it, including restriction to make it smaller. I lost all my oil on the autobahn and a month later melted a big end bearing. I can't help but suspect it was related. Funnily enough despite saying how it wasn't and could never be a problem they no longer run one on theirs... The rockers don't need a lot of oil and if you get too much it and its mist get drawn into the breather and either burnt through the carbs or into a catch tank - depending on what arrangement you have. Don't fit a silly filter on the side of the rocker box either! Thanks for the advice I am certainly not putting a external rocker feed on it now! Ive stripped the head down and found the valves to be good so it will be skimmed by 0.030" to raise the compression ratio from 8:5:1 to 9:0:1 (same as a spitfire). I've also cleaned out the waterways and oil ways in the block and painted it. Next I'm going to drop off the pistons, rods, crank, flywheel and clutch at EDA in Castleford to be balanced and then once the new parts have arrived I can start putting it back together again and put it back in the car! Cheers Andy |
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triumphandy1
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Jul 21, 2014 10:47:46 GMT
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Just a bit of an update on this I've put new uj's in the prop shaft, painted it up and put it on  And I've filled the gearbox and diff with oil and luckily no leaks  But I have had a bit of a problem with the gearbox mounts. I tightened up a nut on the gearbox and the top of the new mount came away from its rubber.  I had a bit of a look round and there's lots of instances of new engine and gearbox mounts failing apparently new ones are not very good quality. So after looking around for a NOS pair and wondering why no one makes them in polyurethane I had a bit of an idea, I removed the rest of the rubber from the broken mount (came off really easily) and bought some shore 80 hardness polyurethane resin from eBay, made a cast from some radiator hose and made this.  It doesn't look as good as off the shelf polybushes but hopefully it should work well More soon Cheers Andy |
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Aug 13, 2014 20:29:58 GMT
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I've got a set of koni shocks if your still looking? Brand new,never been near the car bought for.
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triumphandy1
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Sept 19, 2014 19:45:01 GMT
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Cheers inthewocit I saw those konis on eBay but unfortunately I didn't have any money at the time (typical  ) Anyway I've been doing abit more work on the herald. My first attempt at making polybushes wasn't brilliant
But after abit of perseverance and messing about with the resin/hardener mixture I made a pair I was happy to put on the car
on the car
I've also done some work on the brakes. Upfront the callipers have had new pistons and seals and a bit of a paint up. On the chassis with braided hoses and mintex 1144 pads
At the back its had new wheel cylinders & fitting kits, EBC brake shoes, braided hoses and the drums cleaned up and painted
For the master cylinder I have bought a tilton 3/4 bore dual circuit item. After a bit of messing with the brackets I mocked it up on the bulkhead
hmmmmm some modification of the bulkhead may be required as one of the outlets fouls
Ive also found after ages of looking a dolomite 1300 inlet manifold (so I can run a single su carb). So after looking for one for ages two came up for £20
Elsewhere the wheels are being sent off to be powder coated next week (going for gunmetal grey and ive got a new set of tyres lined up. Also the engines coming along nicely and is nearly ready to go back together ( just need to buy loads of parts )
Cheers Andy
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Sept 20, 2014 9:15:15 GMT
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Well done! Some fantastic work going on here, really puts my 13/60 estate to shame but at the same time it's all very inspiring! I hate to comment on age but for 15yrs old you've really got it going on... Will be watching this one closely Keep up the good work, Pedro |
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triumphandy1
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Sept 22, 2014 21:06:24 GMT
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Cheers peddyp I turn 17 in January so the race is on to get the herald on the road by then. I've just ordered all the bits to build the engine so hopefully if all goes to plan that should be done in a couple of weeks, more soon
Cheers Andy
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triumphandy1
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Oct 18, 2014 13:29:15 GMT
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Got some more done on this recently the bulkheads gone off to a professional welder to get done (due to lack of time to do it myself really) and ive started rubbing the underseal off the body (put the green paint on to make the holes easier to see)
its not too bad really the floors are mostly solid, just quite a lot of pinholes that need welding up and the wheelarches and wing fronts need repairing along with the treadplates. Got these panels to do the job
I'm just waiting for the arch repair section for the other side (its on back order apparently) Got some stuff ready to paint under the body and put it on the chassis when its done
got my wheels back from the powder coaters
I think they turned out well, I'm happy with the colour and I think £80 for the four was very reasonable
Lastly ive got a boss for my steering wheel, its out of a mk4 spitfire so the original horn push will fit
sat the wheel on to see what it look like but I will have to make an adapter plate as only one of the holes lines up
Hopefully the bulkhead should be back soon
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) so work on the herald has been getting going again. Firstly the gearbox has been stripped and I found it to be in excellent condition, hardly worn at all. So its been put back together with new gaskets, oil seal (I'm waiting for another one, the one I got sent was too big) and bushes for the remote gear change and everything's generally been degreased, cleaned up and painted inside and out.
) Anyway I've been doing abit more work on the herald. My first attempt at making polybushes wasn't brilliant