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Mar 16, 2007 12:21:13 GMT
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Rightyho.
A chum of mine and former partner in crime in many silly car related escapades has come across what appears to be an abandonned Mk2 Cortina.
The car is straight and tidy, and on these if they are rust free on the outside they are usually good on the inside.
The interiror looks mint.
The chrome and all trim is good.
The car is sitting at the side of the road in a busy urban location. It has a broken tow rope hanging down from the front and the tax disc expired in November last year. Its is also illegally parked as its too close to the junction and its about a foot from the kerb.
It has been there 3 weeks to my knowledge and possibly longer.
How long before the council or cops spot it and decide to tow it and crush it?
How long before the local yoofs decide to trash it or torch it?
My amte is all for doing a house-to-house in the area but its mostly shops and the like there and I suspect the car was "just passing through" when whoever was towing lost patience with it.
Perhaps it got nicked and its loving owner is out there searching for it?
Part of me thinks I should just run up there with a tow truck and have it away and apply to Swansea for the V5 and see what happens.
So - has anyone lost a tidy non-running Mk2 Cortina and what to do about it?
We also have founnd a 1940s Ford Pilot V8 which is slowly succuming to vandalism but appears otherwise mint (if dusty) and an 1953-ish Austin A70 Hampshire.
How do they get just like this?
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Mar 16, 2007 12:31:18 GMT
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I'd tow it somewhere safe, apply for a V5C and see what happens - the new owner will either contact you and you can give him it back, or you'll get it. Get to it! I'll have the flathead out of the Ford if you get that too
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Last Edit: Mar 16, 2007 12:31:35 GMT by Lewis
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Mar 16, 2007 12:47:33 GMT
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The Pilot appears good enough for a "oem+" style make over. If the kids keep off it the original paint is nicely patina'd justy needs some suspension work to give it some stance and some period tuning parts on the motor and she's good to go. Ol Skool.
Cortina is locked which will make it harder work to get moving, although it shouldn;t have a steering lock.... I used to have loads of spare keys but I think I recycled them.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Seth
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Mar 16, 2007 13:09:50 GMT
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Cut the handbrake cable? Break a flat glass window? I suspect if its not saved by someone honest and upright like you it will fall into the wrong hands (either council or other) very quickly.
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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Nathan
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how to "rescue" this classic?Nathan
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Mar 16, 2007 13:12:44 GMT
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Pick it up mate if you need a hand let me know.
Years ago we did this with a TR6, one I just sold, we applied for the V5 and got it all fine - It turned out the old owner jsut could not be bothered to scrap it.
If its in nottingham mate it wont be long before the local plod come along!!!
And if lewis don't get the flathead I will have seconds LOL
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Last Edit: Mar 16, 2007 13:13:56 GMT by Nathan
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Mar 16, 2007 13:14:26 GMT
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when you do it mate can you tell me how you did it, i often find cars like that - the last was a widebodied alfa 155 in usable condition that was just dumped in the roughest estate in hertfordshire ( hey CC!!!! ).
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Mar 16, 2007 13:21:53 GMT
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I'll have a word with Steve. I think he wants me to have it he's been on about it for 3 weeks or so, but I don't want to be on his toes as its his find.
I know a few people who have just aplied for the log book and got them issued and been fine at that but those were all cars abandonned on private or MOD land. This ones out in the street. I once tried to get a Renner 12 which was abanndonned in a local shoppers car park but it ended up "disappearing". The annoying thing is the council told me that that car was owned by a local garage who was dumping old cars on the car park to wind thier enforcement guys up after some arguement. I went round with an offer to buy the car but he said it wasn't his but I'm sure he was lying.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Mar 16, 2007 13:32:02 GMT
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Be careful, without permission you are stealing it in the eyes of the law however good your intentions are
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Mar 16, 2007 13:51:02 GMT
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have it away mate, i would. I'm sure if there is an ownerthey will be pleased that uve put it out of harms way
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Mar 16, 2007 14:04:59 GMT
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Be careful, without permission you are stealing it in the eyes of the law however good your intentions are Yeah, this was the bit which was worrying me really.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Mar 16, 2007 14:13:01 GMT
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Most councils use a reputable salvage yard to remove abandoned untaxed cars, should not bed too hard to find which ones they use in your area. My local one never crushes anything interesting and sells them with a form which allows you to apply for a v5 might be an easier way to legally rescue it
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Nathan
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how to "rescue" this classic?Nathan
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Mar 16, 2007 14:23:20 GMT
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Yeah Podders Pick up quite a few from my area mate.
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Mar 16, 2007 14:26:54 GMT
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Podders sell on as well. Although I'm sure that cars picked up off the street for no road tax etc are subject to CDO.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Mar 16, 2007 14:27:04 GMT
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I would take it if it has been sat without a tax disc for any length of time. At the end of the day as long as you explain the situation to the DVLA if the owner complains and say you are happy to hand it over immediately to the owner I don't see them doing you for it.
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Mar 16, 2007 16:19:27 GMT
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No advice can be 100% positive, but I would say you will not get into trouble for moving this Cortina, its been untaxed for ages, no-one has been back for it, worst comes to the worst you can explain it all quite easily, but its not gonna come to the worst, the cars been dumped, is probably registered to M. Mouse esq. and no-ones gonna come looking for it.
Just imagine theres someone inside your head thats taken you by the scruff of your neck, and is saying "Come on, you`ve no choice, get this car moved"
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sparko
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Mar 16, 2007 17:04:13 GMT
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Nah thats not the worst case..... You tow it home, on the way you get pulled coppers ask to look around the car and theres a body in the trunk apologies.... I'm tired.... i say go for it
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tux
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Mar 16, 2007 17:26:32 GMT
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Be careful, without permission you are stealing it in the eyes of the law however good your intentions are Yeah, this was the bit which was worrying me really. I would have thought its just the same as finding anything else. As long as you inform Plod that you have found it and where you are keeping it you should be covered. If nobody claims it after the prescribed time (something like 90 days I think) then you can legally claim it as your own and apply for a V5C. Could be totally wrong though! Best bet would be to ask plod (but be as vague as possible as to where the car is etc. Maybe even make the situation "hypothetical"), they should put you straight.
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Mar 16, 2007 18:11:37 GMT
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The law states that it is only theft if you intend to "permanently deprive", if you can prove that you don't intend to simply steal it then you are ok, but then that really is where the problem lies proving you had intended to operate above the law.
It is the same as when your car is towed for being illegally parked, they never intended to "permanently deprive", only charge you enough for a romp with 2 slappers to get it back.
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Mar 16, 2007 18:26:00 GMT
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Go ged it!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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andyb
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Mar 16, 2007 19:00:33 GMT
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A few years ago me and a friend got a golf that had been abandoned, we checked with the DVLA to see if it was registered and then informed the local police and the local council (the car had already been stickered) of our plans, both the police and the council were happy for us to get it, the police also gave me a contact name and phone number incase we were stopped on the way home.
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