Clement
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Jan 25, 2014 18:00:50 GMT
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Alfa Giulia : Paint time. Sorry the pics aren't turned the right way around, imageshack doesn't seem to know how to do this! This is the RH half of the front suspension, painted with a brush and some white polyurethane anti-rust primer. I clearly didn't do the neatest job of it, but there'll be a second coat of primer and then matt black paint so it doesn't matter as long as rust is out of the way for a while. I started my welding & fabricating training course last Monday, it's really cool but I have a two-week internship to do from Feb 24th, so I'll need the car back on the road by then. I'll be working on this so I'm not complaining: Some final welding, adjusting and trimming required, and that's a friend car so really I couldn't be happier! I might post pics then if someone's interested. Needing the car soon means I won't be rustproofing the wheelarches as I wanted to do, but that's a job I might be able to do later, and I don't have a choice anyway. I really miss driving that car, the 2500rpm Weber burble is to die for! Wheel adapters should be at my disposal some time next week hopefully, the guy doing them isn't the nicest or the cheapest but if they work out alright then fine by me. What's cool is that they'll be done specifically to my requirements, like c/bores, PCDs, thickness, held by nuts on the car but wheels held by bolts, etc. I forgot to mention I got the Dolomite front spoiler quite a while ago, but it doesn't really fit because of the shape of the front valance, I've heard that heating could help shaping it right so it fits. Thanks for reading!
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Jan 26, 2014 17:07:06 GMT
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I've just been catching up with this, you have made some good progress Clement keep it up!
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1966 Ford Cortina GT 2018 Ford Fiesta ST
Full time engineer, part time waffler on Youtube - see Jim_Builds
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Jan 26, 2014 17:07:27 GMT
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I've just been catching up with this, you have made some good progress Clement keep it up!
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1966 Ford Cortina GT 2018 Ford Fiesta ST
Full time engineer, part time waffler on Youtube - see Jim_Builds
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Clement
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Jan 26, 2014 17:20:57 GMT
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A little but not half as much as you I even had a bit of time to put a second coat of primer on those parts yesterday evening (overkill, I know) and cleaned the other half of the suspension I haven't touched yet. I'm well glad I put on two coats, very little of the factory black paint remains so it has to be tough.
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Clement
Europe
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Jan 29, 2014 18:13:09 GMT
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I gave this stuff some thought. My gf leaves France for California on March 10th. Yes I will visit her and bring a cool car back, this is a matter of course On Feb 24th she has an appointment at the US embassy in Paris to get a visa, so we thought we could spend the weekend before there. Problem: I start my internship on the 24th as well, and I'm very likely to need my car for that. My car is in bits. I tried to estimate how long it would take to put it back on the road: Sanding down: 5hrsbonnet 30mns front of the car 2hrs heater vent 30mns LH-front suspension 1.5hrs nuts & bolts for above 30mns Paint: 10hrsLH-front susp in primer 2x1hr + curing topcoat LH-front susp 2hrs and RH-front susp 2hrs front of the car (anti-rust spray only) 1hr brake calipers 30mns bonnet & heater vent (anti-rust spray only) 30mns Suspension: 7hrs 10mnsLH-front susp bushes 1hr and RH-front 1hr putting front susp back together 2 x 2hrs cutting springs 30mns (my favourite part!) replacing RH track-rod end 30mn Brakes: 2hrs 20mnsbending new pipes 1hr cleansing calipers 1hr putting calipers back together 20mns Engine: 5hrs 50mnsrebuilding carbs 3hrs putting carbs back on 1hr replacing/repairing balljoint in carb linkage 30mns putting air filter back on 1hr (no that's not a mistake) putting battery & plastic tray back on 20mns Bodywork: 8hrsprotect rust on front of car and wheelarches: 1.5hrs putting front grille back on 2hrs re-soldiering LH-front indicator back on 20mns (cut by mistake) putting headlights back on 1hr putting indicators back on 30mns putting bumper back on 30mns (might not do this) putting numberplate back on 20mns putting bonnet back on 1hr putting heater vent back on 30mns putting wipers back on 10mns That's 38 hours and 20 minutes of work. Some stuff is over-estimated and should be a breeze (especially putting the suspension back together), while some other stuff might be opening a can of worms (rustproofing the front of the car). I'm aware that a lot of these jobs are bodges, like not repairing rust where there is some, but in reality they will have to wait till I can actually do it and I have a trusty daily, like a Maserati Biturbo that I'd buy with the money I'd get from selling the California car. I really have to get a welder soon, but now that I've experienced good quality welders (the TIG I use is a Castomig 3002, that'll be £7300+VAT please) I think buying a cheap one would only be a waste of time. It'll be used of course, but I'd rather have a used professional one than a new sh*tty one. Another option is to go and visit a friend near Limoges with whom I'll rebuild the head (dead valve stem seals), he bought a SmartMig or something a while ago, I'd love to give it a try. It costs about €450, too, that's... attainable. Expect a big update Monday morning, I hope to get through most of the sanding down (suspension at least) and paint (same remark), maybe even starting to rebuild the front suspension. While paint cures I might try sanding down and rustproofing the front of the bonnet, the front of the car (its whole 'face' is slightly rusty), or rebuilding the carbs. I'm stressed and excited at the same time, I can't wait to drive the d*mn thing again!
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duncanmartin
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Jan 29, 2014 22:05:15 GMT
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You're making good progress... Buying a quality used welder is a better idea than buying a cheap new one. Especially if you buy it from a welding supplies place so they can show you what the dials do. Enjoy the course - learning metal bashing is fun.
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goldnrust
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Jan 29, 2014 23:02:43 GMT
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Thats a fair old list when you put it like that! Still all you can do is get down to it. The journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step coffee and all. I wouldn't be too worried about not doing everything at this stage. Sometimes life just gets in the way and you need to have a car that works. If you've stopped the rust in its tracks for now thats a good start. Then you can also do one spot at a time as a rolling project Even if you've just ended up with the front suspension properly overhauled by the time it gets back on the road, thats a a decent chunk of progress that's gonna make a good difference to how it drives On the welding front…. I'm all for second hand pro kit, over cheap consumer kit. But equally welding old cars is a whole other world to welding parts on the bench. I've never done any TIG (really want to though!) but I've used a couple of professional MIGs as well as my own cheapy one. Theres nice features on the pro kit, and it feels a lot more sturdy and has the option to provide much more power, but welding car bodywork the only thing than annoys me about my cheap welder is the short reach of the torch. Everything you've learnt on the bench/welding fresh metal stock together goes out of the window when you're upside down inside a wheel arch, with a lead lamp wedged against your head, trying to weld with your wrong hand (using your thumb on the trigger as its the only way you can get in there) getting showered in spatter and trying desperately not to blow another hole!
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Clement
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The whole point of the list was to check whether I'd actually be able to do it! It should be doable, if only a little bit hectic TIG welding is quite awesome, there's no spatter, no noise, just the gas going shhhhh. TIG welders seem horrendously expensive though, and the heat distortion is a big issue even of 2mm thick sheetmetal! We should be starting MAG today, welding on the bench will be a comfortable start before it gets all messy haha! And don't forget, I'll be practicing on my friend's Triumph before touching the Giulia Duncan : metal bashing seems quite fun indeed!! I like the idea of hitting something to shape it, if it doesn't work you just hit it more, it's relaxing.
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smeden
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Jan 30, 2014 21:14:25 GMT
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Finaly I had time to read your thread Clement Nice Work Nice car! Hope you manage to put it back together! Keep up the good Work and enjoy your metal course! Cheers from Denmark!
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Clement
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Jan 30, 2014 21:20:21 GMT
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Thanks mate!! It's not as radical a build as your Jag though, by the way I almost went and bought an XJ6 instead of the Alfa... It was about the same money, for a good 4.2 manual, that was very tempting I do enjoy the metalwork, we started with the MAG today and it's a lot more messy than TIG welding, I'm disappointed Fortunately, I saw a friend looking at ads on leboncoin to replace his '99 Audi A4 estate, so I promptly suggesting him to buy a Porsche 924, which he's now considering. And another friend in Sweden had terminal rust on his Saab 900NG, so to him I mentioned the Renault Espace mk1 Quadra. I'm looking to expand the RetroRides family you see
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Clement
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I'm disappointed that work hasn't been going as fast as it should have, but sanding and painting the LH front suspension is done! I've also made a good start on cleaning & rebuilding the carbs : one is done, the other one is cleaned. Doing this, I might have found what caused the lean mixture on cylinder 1 : its accelerator pump wasn't delivering fuel... I think it's fixed now! And that means moar power if all goes well both carbs should be done by the end of the afternoon, and I'll probably start rustproofing the wheelarches. I can't work later than 4:30pm because I have to hitchhike back to Dijon, so I'll frustrated as hell.
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Clement
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This week-end's progress... Dust everywhere, the garage looks like Uluru A weapon of choice What keeps me almost sane... but the player died, too much dust in it I guess In primer Rebuilding the carbs: The offending accelerator pump, which you can't actually see but it's under there, just imagine it I finished the week-end by preparing for rust converter and all that, on the LH side. I should be about done with the preparing, just needs cleaning & degreasing and we'll be good. I expected much more out of a week-end's work, sanding took me all of Friday afternoon and Saturday morning, then paint in the afternoon (two coats) and then the carb rebuild took me until today 2pm... and that's with really not doing much else at all besides. Next week-end my gf is coming over and will be helping me, I've got stuff for her to do like sanding and painting the brake calipers, etc. I'll be putting the suspension back together once the wheelarches are ready, bend the new brake pipes (which I've no idea how to do), then try to put the grille and all that back on the car. I'm pretty sure it's more than a week-end's work again, but I've got to try.
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It's almost like you and Totti are having a race to see who can do the most work to their car in the shortest period of time. Good to see you've released your Secret Weapon in the form of a helpful gf, Totti doesn't stand a chance of winning now!
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You aren't hanging about with this! also how did you get your gf to help? I have difficulty getting mine to enter the garage let alone pick up tools and start working
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1966 Ford Cortina GT 2018 Ford Fiesta ST
Full time engineer, part time waffler on Youtube - see Jim_Builds
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Clement
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Thanks totti will win hands down, he's doing wayyy more work and will be finished before me I'm sure! My gf appreciates that I have a passion, even if it's for cars, and she says she'd be happy to help me out she's hasn't tried yet, so I can't tell you if it works... but I'd love to do this more often in the future.
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totti
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i will never ever win this "Race" My girlfriend wants to help,too....but it's to cold in the workshop Keep up the good work! Cheers
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Clement
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Haha spare her the rigors of the winter, wait for warm temperatures & easy jobs not welding by -5℃ Just a little note : after several months of searching on leboncoin and subito, I think I've just found a set of my beloved BWA wheels in Ford fitment, less than 50 miles from my parents' place, 100 euros for the set. I'm awaiting confirmation, and that would mean I woulnd't need adapters or the 4x100 set. Might sell or keep the lot just in case, I like the idea of being able to fit 4x100 and 4x98 wheels. I'm not sure I'll sleep well tonight! Been looking at ads every two days since June searching for that set, and only ever found one for sale in the US 3 years ago...
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Clement
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I offered the guy 80 euros for the set (there was a note saying 100) and he said yes!!! I'll go and collect them next Friday!
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goldnrust
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Awesome! Will they fit under the arches without major work? But still be more brutish than the stock wheels? There better be pictures next friday….
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Clement
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They are exactly the same rims as the ones I bought at a flea market : These were 4x100 and I'm getting adaptors made for them (Giulia PCD is 4x108)... they should be 6x14 et33 so absolutely spot on!! Edit : actually they sent me a picture of the "new" ones: I think they suit the Giulia perfectly : sporty but elegant
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Last Edit: Feb 7, 2014 13:27:07 GMT by Clement
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