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Jun 11, 2013 21:33:02 GMT
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HI GUYS I'm GOING TO RETROBUILD SOME Headlights into bmw e36 headlight box,s
so does anyone have any advice for projector units that are really good quality and build and have amazing light output and will fit into the bmw e36 box,s i plan to build two sets (( bear in mind i don't want to spend a fortune just want the best i can get without too much outlay must be better output than any bmw e36 origional headlights )) set 1 will be the best possible hid projector unit with a high beam reflector of any type set two will be a halogen one low beam and one highbeam
the lights i have are clear glass so the highbeam reflectors you recomend must project there own beam pattern obvoiusly the projector units will project there own beam patterns
soif you have been amazed by a certain cars headlight output or youve undone a headlight and thought wow thats a really good projector unit
hopefully will aim to buy broken headlights to nick the projectors out of them type deal cheers dave
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Are these for show only or will they be used on the road / MOT'd ? It makes a difference as road / MOT means you will have to abide by the rules and regulations (I don't know what they are other than they exist) as last thing you want to do is spent time and money making the lights only to find they are an MOT fail. Using standard fitment lights rather than cheap eBay items is a good idea as at least you will know they conform. However I can't help wondering why you want to "reinvent the wheel" when there are plenty of decent aftermarket light already available. I can understand if you were planning radical body modifications and therefore need lights to fit in with your design but seeing you intent keeping the original boxes then surely it'd be simpler to buy decent "off the shelf" e36 uprated headlights. Even brand new standard with decent bulbs will probably be a big improvement of the current old items if you don't find they are good enough. You'd be surprised at how much difference a slighly dull refector, that you only notice when next to a brand new item, make to light output.
Paul h
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Jun 12, 2013 10:17:00 GMT
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Renewing the wiring on old headlamps will also brighten them up considerably, the loom degrades over time and effects all the cars electrical systems. Its easy to check by just running a some new wire direct to the light bulb from the battery and seeing if it gets brighter.
Very few cars from the 70's onwards had bad head lights, if you can't see then something is usually wrong rather than was bad from the factory.
An edit to say,
Projector lamps have to have a wash and self leveling system by law for road use, wash is easy, self leveling not so much although you can fit self leveling suspension and that will count.
Technically lights have to be E marked as well although i don't know if that will be picked up at MOT time.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jun 12, 2013 10:54:15 GMT
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Renewing the wiring on old headlamps will also brighten them up considerably, the loom degrades over time and effects all the cars electrical systems. Its easy to check by just running a some new wire direct to the light bulb from the battery and seeing if it gets brighter. Good point about ageing wiring. Neighbour had a e46 diesel and had to change the injector wiring as it had deteriated - he said a common BMW problem Might be worth adding relays so the main and dip wiring from column switch simply work as trigger and main feed for lights comes direct, via fuse, from battery. Paul H
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Jun 12, 2013 14:46:40 GMT
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cheers for the comments and reply much appreciated theese are not going on a bmw I'm purely using e36 boxs as theres loads available with tired inards cheaply I am purely interested in light output beam patterns etc and not not styling the more subltle the better yes they will be used on the road and will be mots as such thats why I'm building two 1 hid and one halogen to swap to the halogens for the mot all the wiring will be new when built
I am purely after a recomendation for a really good projector unit and high beam reflector thats easily available and performs brilliantly all new headlights are clear glass with beam projecting reflectors projectors but I don't know if there any good all I know is what they look like from outside and its not about styling I have experimented with used bmw bosch projectors(sketchy) and also new bosh projectors (bearable)and hella angel eye elipsoid projectors(the silvering comes off inside the projector after about three years) they're not really up to par with modern stuff at all really and I know I can do better
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Last Edit: Jun 12, 2013 14:49:18 GMT by Deleted
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Jun 12, 2013 15:46:49 GMT
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If your planning on using them on the road without going through the MOT to check the beam pattern and fitting the self leveling your being pretty selfish, those lights are often blinding even when fitted by the manufacturers let alone by an amateur who decides to give his fat mate a lift home in the back in the dark.
Just fit driving lamps for when the road is dark and remember to turn them off when you get back into street lit areas.
Years ago I had a pickup truck with 4 lights in the grill, 4 on the roof and one at the base of each A pillar, i flashed a guy i knew coming towards me up a dark lane one night (I had forgotten to turn the extra spots off the main beam circuit after being off road) and I ended up towing his MG metro out of the roadside ditch, he couldn't see so steered off the road to avoid hitting me.
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LowStandards
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Jun 12, 2013 15:58:32 GMT
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I concur with the above, HID lights are dire enough when they pass regs, let alone when you've decided to buy the cheapest ebay kit you can and dremel them into some random housings.
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Jun 12, 2013 16:16:30 GMT
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Hi, most BMW e36 lights are halogen so that is the MOT sorted. Most headlight reflectors with a clear glass will give a spot/pencil beam. The dip comes from partly the offset filament and partly the prisms moulded in the glass. HID conversions are not entirely successful because the lamp is bigger than a halogen lamp and is not all in the focal point of the reflector and so you get some light scatter. HID reflectors are different to counteract this, so in short you need proper HID lights. Which is what you are asking for I know that. A lot of cars with HID lights nowadays don't have round lights. So if you can live with the compromise of a conversion that will be your cheapest option. Sorry I could not be more help, but I was just as frustrated when I looked into doing similar.
Colin
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Jun 12, 2013 17:30:19 GMT
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I took friends to the airport one night in their own car. It was the first time I'd driven something with OE HID lights. I must admit they were very bright but too sharp "cut off" for me so it was like driving in a tunnel and left me unimpressed. On straight road they were "accpetable" but a lot of my journey home was twisty lanes and the HID lights tiring on the eyes.
Paul H
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Jun 12, 2013 18:44:51 GMT
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I have a mate who works at a garage and has acess to the best headlight beam setup equiptment available so I wont be blinding anybody thats the point of trying to do it properly not just buying some crappy ebay jobbies that give out curse word light all over the place
very good reply colnerov cheers mate
this is why I'm asking if for instance you have an audi whatever model and you find the hid lights have good output beam and you rate them highly compared to your ford whatever model that had bad lights that blinded everyone
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Last Edit: Jun 12, 2013 18:54:17 GMT by Deleted
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Jun 20, 2013 22:35:12 GMT
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My ex's Dad had a diesel A3 and he said "oohhooh, once you drive a car with HID lights you'll never want to go back". His Audi was the first motor he'd had them on so seems they were quite good.
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