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May 22, 2013 17:03:27 GMT
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Hello,
I keep seeing adds for rust converters and neutralisers and want to know peoples experiences with them before I splash £25 for a tub of dodgy chemicals. I imagine that they will only really be of benefit for relatively light surface rust or for putting around a bad area you have chopped out to try to keep it at bay.
Any experience with different brands and does and don't would be much appreciated
Thanks
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MrSpeedy
East Midlands
www.vintagediesels.co.uk
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May 22, 2013 19:36:19 GMT
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Personally, I'm a fan of the Bilt Hamber stuff. Been using it for years. Having tried a few others in my experience it seems to be one of the better ones.
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May 22, 2013 20:08:48 GMT
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Another thumbs up for Bilt Hamber. Far better than the Kurust stuff I used once.
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Anglia68
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May 22, 2013 22:08:25 GMT
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I've been using Vactan very successfully for years on both bodywork and chassis and even Victorian ironwork,
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I only use Hydrate 80 from BiltHamber on bare metal, by far the best thing I've found. I did a test about 4 years back on a sheet of normal 1mm thick steel that had been sat in a damp corner and gone rusty all over. I ground clean a strip 1" high across it, then used a wire brush on an angle grinder to clean a 1" strip above that. Then I tried 4 different things in vertical lines (so over all 3 bits ground clean/ wire brushed and rusty) I used Hydrate 80, Kurust, loctites rust killer and Bilt hambers zinc primer. Then left it in the back garden through 2 yorkshire winters. The Kurust didn't last 2 months, loctite did a little better about 3 or 4 months. But neither are visable at all now its just rust. The zinc primer after 4 years is getting rust eating in from the edges of the painted area, the Hydrate 80 still looks mint. So thats all I use now. 3 or 4 coats of that followed by either their zinc primer (if I want the extra protection) or just Rustoleum with a couple of layers of stonechip under the car. Most stuff like red-oxide primer and similar have been watered down by the health and safety idiots so they don't work as well as they used to.
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I'm using Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80, it seems to "stick" very well to clean bare steel too. I don't rate their zinc primer though. a year after cleaning the underneath of my polo back to bare metal, and painting on 2 coats of their zinc primer and then 2 coats of Upol Gravitex stonechip, rust was already showing thought after a year. the rusty patches were cleaned again and I've used 2 coats of Hydrate 80 and 2 coats of Gravitex and its still looking good.
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May 23, 2013 10:24:32 GMT
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Epoxy Mastic seems to work quite well in my limited experience, although I was using it more in a protective than rust treating manner. Certainly a car I did with it 3 years back and which has been used during winter and lived outside is still looking good, feels solid and no sign of anything bubbling through.
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1990 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 // 1991 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 16v // 1992 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9 // 1999 Peugeot 306 Meridian HDi Estate
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May 23, 2013 20:56:54 GMT
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thanks for the replys, Bilt Hamber it is! ill get some ordered up
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mmmajr
Part of things
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May 29, 2013 20:36:56 GMT
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Following this up, before I put on rust treatment and then rust preventer on, I was thinking about having the underside of my car pressure washed or steam treated (or whatever they do) to remove the worst of the smeg that has built up under there as I wanted to check and repair anything I found before putting a load of stuff on top. I don't suppose anyone knows or has had any experience with any places that offer this service in the south east sort of area?
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