unitybonez
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ahah. Now this is a fun car. A lot more fun than the rusty mkIV (sorry had to say it) I think its kool, and i would love to see the chassis work. From the first picture i kept repeatin my self "juice not bags please, juice not bags please, juice not bags please..." then i clicked the clicky and found out. Oh well... I love the lights, and althou the keg is an abused accessory in the rat rod scene this car is so tidily done that it works. Winner.
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Sent from my ouiji board.
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8tee8
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Gotta say the tail lights and rear door handle delete are at odds with the overall look of the car, but I like it
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MK2VR6
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Don't like it. But on a positive the Wolfsburg wheel is timeless and the beer barrel fuel tank is inspired. Pirelli P's work too.
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ahah. Now this is a fun car. A lot more fun than the rusty mkIV (sorry had to say it) I think its kool, and I would love to see the chassis work. From the first picture I kept repeatin my self "juice not bags please, juice not bags please, juice not bags please..." then I clicked the clicky and found out. Oh well... I love the lights, and althou the keg is an abused accessory in the rat rod scene this car is so tidily done that it works. Winner. Airbags are superior to hydraulics in almost every way, unless you like traffic light dancing. Oh, and to roll my old chestnut out... Not liking a car on adjustable suspension for being too low is akin to throwing away your dinner because it is too hot.
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Not liking a car on adjustable suspension for being too low is akin to throwing away your dinner because it is too hot. I'm still waiting for this to appear on a line of t-shirts, mugs and stickers.
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niwid
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Apr 10, 2013 10:31:04 GMT
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Not liking a car on adjustable suspension for being too low is akin to throwing away your dinner because it is too hot. This is true, however, this car seems to be very much defined by its ride height. It's had a hell of a lot of work gone into it purely to make it sit that low, and I imagine, it sits like this at shows. So I think any points about not liking it's mega lowness, (including my own ) are still perfectly valid.
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Apr 10, 2013 10:48:39 GMT
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Not liking a car on adjustable suspension for being too low is akin to throwing away your dinner because it is too hot. This is true, however, this car seems to be very much defined by its ride height. It's had a hell of a lot of work gone into it purely to make it sit that low, and I imagine, it sits like this at shows. So I think any points about not liking it's mega lowness, (including my own ) are still perfectly valid. *facepalm*
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EmDee
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Committer of Autrocities.
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Apr 10, 2013 10:51:42 GMT
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I think any points about not liking it's mega lowness, (including my own ) are still perfectly valid.
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Apr 10, 2013 11:01:47 GMT
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Those AC invalid cars had kickass rear arches. Like shrunken mkII Escort forest arches.
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EmDee
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Apr 10, 2013 11:05:22 GMT
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Adjustable bonnet scoop & JDM yo fender mirrors FTMFW
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Seth
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Apr 10, 2013 11:05:26 GMT
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I think you can legitimately opine that a car would aesthetically look better at a different ride height, which ever way that might be. What you can't really do is complain about 'OMG speedbumps!' and the impracticality of a low car that has air.
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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Apr 10, 2013 11:22:23 GMT
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Cars such as this Golf are built to be as low as possible. Aesthetics plays second fiddle and are not integral do the design.
It's like not buying a frying pan because it doesn't play the Star Spangled Banner.
Of course that Golf may 'look' better at a different ride height, but that's not it was built for.
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82mini
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Apr 10, 2013 11:34:53 GMT
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Awesome
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unitybonez
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Apr 10, 2013 11:53:31 GMT
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Not true aboutr air being superior to hydraulics. This is the one thing i know well and i had experience with both. While it is true that air can ride great, it is scarceley known that hydros can ride on par and even better. Hydraulics don't mean hoppin 80 inches and dancing the car to death, a simple uppy downy set up, built to handle rather than perform is unbeatable in every way.
Look of hydro units against tank/compressor - check Sound of spinnin motor against psssh pshh - check old school factor - check not waitin for the reservoir to fill before hittin a switch - check not having the sound of a giant clipper in the trunk - check LOL and so on.
Specially on small euros where space is tight i don't understand why bags are more often chosen, as it means cuttin and weldin a lot more to avoid bags from rubbin, while all you need is a hole for the ram for the hydros. But i guess only those deep into this stuff will understand what i mean. The only negative i can think is in case of a blown hose it can be messy and you better have spares and oil with you or youre stuck!
Sorry for the de-track.
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Apr 10, 2013 12:18:38 GMT
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I don't understand why bags are more often chosen, as it means cuttin and weldin a lot more to avoid bags from rubbin, while all you need is a hole for the ram for the hydros. But I guess only those deep into this stuff will understand what I mean.Yeah, that is quite a complicated concept you're outlining there. Too serpentine for us simpletons to get our heads around.
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niwid
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Apr 10, 2013 12:23:05 GMT
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I don't understand why bags are more often chosen, as it means cuttin and weldin a lot more to avoid bags from rubbin, while all you need is a hole for the ram for the hydros. But I guess only those deep into this stuff will understand what I mean.Yeah, that is quite a complicated concept you're outlining there. Too serpentine for us simpletons to get our heads around. I think he means you need to have a rough Idea of how airbags and hydros work. I don't, therefore I'm not deep into this stuff, and don't really know what he means
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Apr 10, 2013 13:35:49 GMT
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Not true aboutr air being superior to hydraulics. This is the one thing I know well and I had experience with both. While it is true that air can ride great, it is scarceley known that hydros can ride on par and even better. Hydraulics don't mean hoppin 80 inches and dancing the car to death, a simple uppy downy set up, built to handle rather than perform is unbeatable in every way. Look of hydro units against tank/compressor - check Sound of spinnin motor against psssh pshh - check old school factor - check not waitin for the reservoir to fill before hittin a switch - check not having the sound of a giant clipper in the trunk - check LOL and so on. Specially on small euros where space is tight I don't understand why bags are more often chosen, as it means cuttin and weldin a lot more to avoid bags from rubbin, while all you need is a hole for the ram for the hydros. But I guess only those deep into this stuff will understand what I mean. The only negative I can think is in case of a blown hose it can be messy and you better have spares and oil with you or youre stuck! Sorry for the de-track. Your arguments pro juice are laughable! The look and sound of a pump make it a better suspension option than airbags!? You haven't covered any technical reasons at all, simply that you personally feel more comfortable using hydraulics over air. Some proper technical reasons why air is better than juice. 1. The systems take up much less space 2. You don't need a separate power supply to operate air 3. You don't need a separate charging system to charge the separate power supply which controls hydraulics. 3. Air rides much better than juice. 4. Counter to your claim, there is often much more fabrication involved in installing juice over air. 5. Air is much cleaner to work with [air leaks vs hydraulic fluid leaks] Caveat: The above claims are based on a like-for-like basic juice vs basic air system. Of course you can have on-board charging, and you can have fluid displacement or accumulators to enhance the ride, but that all costs more money, whereas air is like that 'out of the box'. Oh, and I'm certainly qualified to talk about both systems too.
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Apr 10, 2013 14:53:17 GMT
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cuttin and weldin a lot more to avoid bags from rubbin g
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unitybonez
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Blowing Pintos
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Oh c'mon, I sure didnt mean it that way. up til 2 years ago if someone was to say "cut a hole for the ram" in a sentence I would have been and I don't think everyone is an expert on everything. Plus remember that don't matter how good my english can seem, I'm still not english and I can at times still use the wrongwords or sentencing. This said I could go on listin REAL technical reason for my claims rather than listing funny stuff, but I think this video is worth much more words. Look how the suspension cycles and how the body bareley moves, even on what looks like hardere "hits" And I'm not saying bags aint good, I'm just sayin hydros suffer from a bad reputation they don't deserve. Mainly because of the yanks I guess, and their shockless 5 ton springed rides.
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Oh c'mon, I sure didnt mean it that way. up til 2 years ago if someone was to say "cut a hole for the ram" in a sentence I would have been and I don't think everyone is an expert on everything. Plus remember that don't matter how good my english can seem, I'm still not english and I can at times still use the wrongwords or sentencing. This said I could go on listin REAL technical reason for my claims rather than listing funny stuff, but I think this video is worth much more words. Look how the suspension cycles and how the body bareley moves, even on what looks like hardere "hits" And I'm not saying bags aint good, I'm just sayin hydros suffer from a bad reputation they don't deserve. Mainly because of the yanks I guess, and their shockless 5 ton springed rides. So you didn't read my post properly then? The part where I said you can improve the ride of hydraulics by using accumulators, but this adds cost [and takes away space] over a 'standard' juice system, when compared to a 'standard' air system.
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