Davey
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This might be a daft question, but why is there diamond pattern drawn on the bodywork? No such thing as daft question in my book - so when I am working / profiling multiple panels - I use pencil to highlight reference points / high - low spots / areas requiring rework - with so many panels on the go it is easy to forget where you are / what stage you are at - so this is purely my own system - once I am happy / completed with a panel I will just draw a diagonal line pattern on it and move on to the next panel(s) - I normally work 3 - 4 panels in rotation at a time to allow for curing times I was wondering the same thing having seen you do it and someone else in another thread, at first i thought the filler was cracked and you just hadn't noticed! Makes perfect sense to me now. I assumed it would be something like this.
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glenanderson
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What's the overall plan now? Totally stock? Some discrete mods?
Great work by the way. 😀
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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What's the overall plan now? Totally stock? Some discrete mods? Great work by the way. 😀 Engine has been lightly breathed upon during the rebuild / carbs likewise - slightly uprated brakes & suspension but nothing fancy - anyone looking at the car in detail would not be aware of anything not being original - other than radial white wall tyres - that's it - whilst some would argue a big lump of an engine stuck in it and a load of brake / suspension / steering mods + alloys etc - I would long overrule any such mods - not because of the originality factor more to the point that the Javelin was and is a very well engineered car - miles ahead of anything else in it's class back in the 50's - they handle great & can keep the pace with modern traffic - are very comfortable & are a really fun motor to drive - they turn heads everywhere - begs the question why would you change it ? I have done circa 10,000 miles in mine - it went to Holland & back with 20 others last year, it will be en-route to Scotland in May this year - Peter who owns car that I am restoring lives out in Switzerland and fully intends to get full use out of it once restored - although it's probably going to be one of the best Javelin's in the world upon completion it won't be any trailer / dry weather queen
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Last Edit: Mar 1, 2017 13:48:23 GMT by Deleted
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v8ian
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Always thought a good VW Aircooled flat 4 would be a good swap for these cars, but then again a scooby turbo flat 4 would be interesting too.
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Atmo V8 Power . No slicks , No gas + No bits missing . Doing it in style. Austin A35van, very different------- but still doing it in style, going to be a funmoble
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Always thought a good VW Aircooled flat 4 would be a good swap for these cars, but then again a scooby turbo flat 4 would be interesting too.[/quote There is a Scooby converted one about - somewhere but I never seen it in the flesh - there is also one with a Rover V8 3.5 and another one with a Dodge 5.3 litre V8 in it (this one is due at auction 8th March Link: www.brightwells.com/classic-motoring/leominster-classic-vintage/leominster-classic-vintage-march-2017/catalogue-8th-march-2017/) guide is £11 - £12k - it's changed hands several times over the last five or six years - I am going to guess that although it looks ok and appears pretty well engineered that it it's impractical - 2 seater only and doesn't handle that well - but I could be wrong
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Underside of panels prepped Took the opportunity to template the underside of the bootlid in order to cut a liner for it out of millboard at a later date Shell back on the tilter and over to complete the last of the profiling on the nearside roof / gutter channel Last bit of welding was to replace this bodge on the rear seat upstand - its a critical weak point as the rear upper shock absorber mounting is immediately behind it Bodge removed / new section welded in Cleaned up Rear of the new section and reason for replacing it Shell inverted in order to prep the underside for primer - still a bit to do in the morning before it gets coated up
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Last Edit: Mar 1, 2017 22:26:29 GMT by Deleted
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unusual shell, does it count as monocoque? kind of steel box chassis with bodywork welded on! ?
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unusual shell, does it count as monocoque? kind of steel box chassis with bodywork welded on! ? Normally referred as a 'unitary' constructed bodyshell
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Onwards with the progress so managed to get the shell into polyester filling primer this morning And some of the panels were sprayed this evening Just leaves 2 x back wings, both offside doors and loads of little minor parts to get coated up tomorrow
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Looking forward to the colour going on this.
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Looking forward to the colour going on this. ME TOO
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When do you apply the Epoxy Sealer/Primer?
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When do you apply the Epoxy Sealer/Primer? Once I have sanded / blocked the polyester back (dry sanded P320) - I then apply the epoxy which is wet sanded P600 prior to applying the basecoat
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ok the process will be good to follow and to actually see the stages correctly applied right through to the final paint.
Thank you for taking the time post.
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Well this is just excellent all round. unusual shell, does it count as monocoque? kind of steel box chassis with bodywork welded on! ? Normally referred as a 'unitary' constructed bodyshell Quick question, maybe for @grumpynorthener and maybe for one of our resident IVA types. Would body modifications stick you in IVA territory with a unitary construction car, is it closer to monocoque or is it considered a car with a chassis for IVA,... or is it just a world of hurt and falls between both ... more out of curiosity than any real relevance to my life
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I would not think it would not need an IVA test as it was produced in that way by the manufactures and would already have type approval and only need an MOT if the car was young enough.
Javelin was a very advanced car for its time and one of the first production cars with this design.
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Last Edit: Mar 3, 2017 10:20:31 GMT by peteh1969: word left out
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Well this is just excellent all round. Normally referred as a 'unitary' constructed bodyshell Quick question, maybe for @grumpynorthener and maybe for one of our resident IVA types. Would body modifications stick you in IVA territory with a unitary construction car, is it closer to monocoque or is it considered a car with a chassis for IVA,... or is it just a world of hurt and falls between both ... more out of curiosity than any real relevance to my life I could be wrong but I think that 'car with a chassis' is a distinct separate chassis with a body mounted upon it - where has the Javelin is a complete body & chassis structure therefore would be considered 'monocoque' - very early version of such vehicle structure there is possibly some designs that might pre date the Javelin but the design for it commenced in 1944 (war years) and in 1947 it became the first all new clean sheet designed production car to appear after the end of the war - whilst most other manufactures returned to production of the chassis bodied vehicles that they were building pre war - apologies I now sound like a anorak - I will go and it put on! Hotwire - Interesting question though and it just so happens that the next two restorations are again Jowett but both body / chassis cars - one of them a Jupiter which is virtually a part space framed chassis - I will start a new post for it once it arrives in early April
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Last Edit: Mar 3, 2017 10:15:51 GMT by Deleted
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don't forget one of these when you start the top coat @grumpynorthener (satire)
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To answer hotwire's question - yes modifications would be treated as a monocoque and would invite IVA inspection.
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don't forget one of these when you start the top coat @grumpynorthener (satire) Ho absolutely but don't you think the elastics should be white and not yellow
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Last Edit: Mar 3, 2017 22:28:23 GMT by Deleted
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