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Hi, Where can I find wheel alignment data (toe settings) for a variety of cars? I know it is normally listed in the Haynes Manual, but I don't have manuals for some of the cars and others never had manuals printed for them. Is there an online resource? I have tried just general scratting about on google but it either gets nowhere or in a couple of cases gets conflicting data.
I need data for.... '99 Escort estate. '00 Citroen C15 van. '01 Mazda B2500 double cab pickup, 4x4 model - Exactly the same as a Ford Ranger. '01 Renault Mascot truck. 2.8 engine I think, Long chassis.
Thanks.
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1986 Panda 4x4. 1990 Metro Sport. 1999 Ford Escort estate.
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froggy
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Dec 28, 2012 11:33:11 GMT
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I did find some info in super trackers site but it relates to mm rather than old fashioned degrees and minutes
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RobinJI
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Dec 28, 2012 13:17:31 GMT
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I did find some info in super trackers site but it relates to mm rather than old fashioned degrees and minutes Easily sorted, you can convert it into degrees pretty quickly. Just use (and make sure the calculators set to work in degrees not rads): sin(wheel diameter in mm / toe measurement in mm)inverse sine * (toe measurement in mm / wheel diameter in mm)For instance a 15" wheel's 281mm diameter, if they say 2mm toe out then that's Sin(281/2)=0.63deg toe out, or 0deg, 38min if you'd rather.inverse Sine (2/281) = 0.2 deg toe out, or 0 deg, 12 minutes if you'd rather.(What a tit, I got it wrong, teach me for trying to be smart while half asleep! )
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Last Edit: Dec 29, 2012 0:42:02 GMT by RobinJI
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Dec 28, 2012 14:48:49 GMT
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I did find some info in super trackers site but it relates to mm rather than old fashioned degrees and minutes Easily sorted, you can convert it into degrees pretty quickly. Just use (and make sure the calculators set to work in degrees not rads): sin(wheel diameter in mm / toe measurement in mm) For instance a 15" wheel's 281mm diameter, if they say 2mm toe out then that's Sin(281/2)=0.63deg toe out, or 0deg, 38min if you'd rather. I love the way you say 'easy'
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RobinJI
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Dec 28, 2012 15:39:24 GMT
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Haha, it looks a little daunting, but it really is easy, just a couple of button presses on the calculator. Anyone given the formula can manage that regardless of their aversion to maths.
I guess if you're not so bothered about accuracy then you could say it's very roughly 0.3deg per mm (or 20 minutes). It'd probably be accurate enough for most road cars. Still, a little trigonometry never hurt anyone, and most of us should know the basics for GCSE/O-levels.
Conversions are an unfortunate pain in the backside working with cars in this country. I've got 185mm wide tyres, pumped up to 34psi, fitted to 15" wheels, over 280mm discs with 50mm pistons in the calipers, fed by a 3/16" brake line.... etc. We're all used to working with silly measuring standards and converting between them, a few geometric conversion's have to creep in there sometimes, and they shouldn't be too much of an issue when they do.
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CIH
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Dec 28, 2012 22:31:19 GMT
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One mm is about 8 minutes (give or take a fraction, and assuming 60 minutes to a degree).
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RobinJI
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Yeah, ignore what I said, half asleep today, if you did it my way and calculated it, it's:
Inverse Sine * (toe setting in mm / wheel diameter in mm)
Which yeah, for a 15" wheel would come out at 0.2 deg or 12 minutes per mm. What is actually a 'mm' of toe is pretty poorly defined though.
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CIH
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Dec 29, 2012 17:42:07 GMT
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Here you go. All figures are degrees and minutes ie; 60" to 1'
'99 Escort Estate (not 4x4) 0' 20" IN '00 Citroen C15 Van 0' 31" IN (PAS) or 0' 20" IN (Manual steering) '01 Mazda B2500 4x4 0' 14" IN '01 Renault Mascott =/> 2T load (2tonne ? I dunno they never explain their acronyms!) 0'25" OUT < 2T load 0'19" OUT
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Dec 30, 2012 10:54:47 GMT
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Wonderful, Thankyou very much.
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1986 Panda 4x4. 1990 Metro Sport. 1999 Ford Escort estate.
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