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Jan 15, 2007 18:37:52 GMT
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I am turbocharging my 1108 Fire powered Fiat 500, to do this I need to convert to fuel injection The car has a standard one way feed with low pressure pump.
I think I have a few choices but need some advice as to what route is best or any other ideas that you might have
The first option is to fit an external swirl pot fed by the low pressure pump with an external high pressure one to the injection system
The second option is to get a tank custom made with a swirl pot built in with either an internal or external high pressure pump.
The third option is to modify the existing tank fitting a swirl pot and an external or internal high pressure pump
What do you guys think and can you recommend anybody who can make a new tank or modify my existing one?
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slater
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Jan 15, 2007 20:28:41 GMT
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Id go for number one myself, its the simplest way.
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Jan 15, 2007 21:18:52 GMT
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yeah id go for the first one, def the easiest.
Saying that I'm in serious consideration of getting a bag tank due to the configuration of my car (same as yours engine in the back fuel tank in the front), would be a hell of a lot safer in a crash (god forbid).
J
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Jan 15, 2007 21:53:13 GMT
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Call Nigel at Altiss engineering.Number is on his website. www.altiss.combest fabricator out there.... |
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Jan 16, 2007 21:16:18 GMT
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Call Nigel at Altiss engineering.Number is on his website. www.altiss.combest fabricator out there.... Looks very impressive, I will give them a call, thanks all |
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Jan 16, 2007 21:46:44 GMT
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those altiss boys don't muck about do they, great stuff on there
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Jan 17, 2007 11:50:49 GMT
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I am turbocharging my 1108 Fire powered Fiat 500, to do this I need to convert to fuel injection The car has a standard one way feed with low pressure pump. I think I have a few choices but need some advice as to what route is best or any other ideas that you might have The first option is to fit an external swirl pot fed by the low pressure pump with an external high pressure one to the injection system The second option is to get a tank custom made with a swirl pot built in with either an internal or external high pressure pump. The third option is to modify the existing tank fitting a swirl pot and an external or internal high pressure pump What do you guys think and can you recommend anybody who can make a new tank or modify my existing one? I can do you a custom swirl pot or Tank, whatever you need  You have my email address Fella ;D |
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Jan 17, 2007 12:17:31 GMT
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What you do is find a vehicle that's got an in-tank combination swirl pot/high pressure pump, cut out the section that retains it in the fuel tank, drill an appropriate sized hole in your existing tank and then weld in the EFi section, bolt it all up - voila - in tank EFi pump. This is what's been done on mine and it's so much quieter than an 'orribly noisy lifter and external hi-pressure pump - much less hassle as well  |
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bstardchild
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Jan 17, 2007 12:22:37 GMT
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I can do you a custom swirl pot or Tank, whatever you need You have my email address Fella ;D Ahhh thats worth knowing - my Monza (in tank) Swirl pot is insufficient for long sweeping corners with half a tank or less fuel wise I was thinking - custom tank with bigger internal swirl pot and smaller overall capacity to lose a bit of weight or - Additional swirl pot with bigger capacity Any thoughts |
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Jan 17, 2007 12:35:00 GMT
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I can do you a custom swirl pot or Tank, whatever you need You have my email address Fella ;D Ahhh thats worth knowing - my Monza (in tank) Swirl pot is insufficient for long sweeping corners with half a tank or less fuel wise I was thinking - custom tank with bigger internal swirl pot and smaller overall capacity to lose a bit of weight or - Additional swirl pot with bigger capacity Any thoughts Either is do-able, external swirl pot is obviously the cheaper option, but new custom Alloy tank can be made for whatever you want. Another option is additional low pressure lift pumps in either side of the existing tank to keep the internal swirl pot filled or a new Sump section on the bottom of the existing tank to give a greater capacity swirl pot. Tank foam always helps but doesnt work with all fuel level senders and is expensive "Retail" HTH Dom |
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Last Edit: Jan 17, 2007 12:39:36 GMT by CR500Dom
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bryn
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Jan 17, 2007 13:37:51 GMT
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Sorry to hijack the thread...
Dom, I need a tank making for my beach buggy. There are obviously plenty of people I could go too, but I'd prefer to pay money to somebody I sort of know. Make sense? PM me if you want to keep the thread clear...
Bryn
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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Jan 17, 2007 13:56:47 GMT
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Sorry to hijack the thread... Dom, I need a tank making for my beach buggy. There are obviously plenty of people I could go too, but I'd prefer to pay money to somebody I sort of know. Make sense? PM me if you want to keep the thread clear... Bryn Yeah no problem chap Just let me know what you need will have some time after the end of this week without a lot of stuff going on so just let me know what you want ? Cheers Dom |
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Jan 17, 2007 14:21:56 GMT
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*hijack* I never know someone on here possesed such skilZ0rz as that, I'll most likely be wanting a custom made tank for my starlet. Do you have any contact details so we can have a chat about what I'll be after?
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lebowski
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Jan 17, 2007 14:36:56 GMT
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My Pops and I cut the swirl pot and high pressure in tank pump out of a Scorpio and fitted it into my tank. The swirl pot was spot welded into the bottom of the tank and the pump mounting part (cut out of the Scorpio) will be soldered into a hole in the top of the tank.
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bstardchild
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Jan 17, 2007 15:34:44 GMT
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Either is do-able, external swirl pot is obviously the cheaper option, but new custom Alloy tank can be made for whatever you want. OK Another option is additional low pressure lift pumps in either side of the existing tank to keep the internal swirl pot filled or a new Sump section on the bottom of the existing tank to give a greater capacity swirl pot.HTH Dom You are such a clever chap  Swirl pot currently has the return feed from injector rail feeding it as well as what is in the tank and the pick up for the feed is from the centre of the swirl pot Big throttle on a corner = not much more petrol going into the swirl pot area from the return and it all sliding out of the bottom to one side of the tank!!! But if I recirculate the fuel to the swirl pot using lift pumps and the return feed am I gonna be curse word into the wind I wonder?  |
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Jan 17, 2007 15:42:40 GMT
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*hijack* I never know someone on here possesed such skilZ0rz as that, I'll most likely be wanting a custom made tank for my starlet. Do you have any contact details so we can have a chat about what I'll be after? PM Sent Swirl pots:  Breather Tanks:   Breather systems and Header tanks  Just to give you some Idea |
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bstardchild
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Jan 17, 2007 16:20:26 GMT
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Swirl pots: Just to give you some Idea So how would I plumb in a second swirlpot to ensure it covered my starvation issues? |
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