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Seen a tidy Vogue SE auto for sale locally, has LPG kit fitted. 110k, AC, leather, some history and a few new parts fitted recently.
Was thinking about buying it for the snowy season and selling the E34 Beemer as I fancy a change.
Good or Bad idea?
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Triumph Estate to do list:
1. Remove Rover V8 - done
2. chop, weld, spray - ongoing, need motivation
3. drop in RB25
4. burn rubber
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marcp
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Dad had a 91 RR for about 7 years, really good motors, I loved driving it, the view you get looking down on everything and down the bonnet is ace, and eats up miles. Just make sure the rear tailgates are fairly solid (its not a huge issue if they are, alloy top tailgates are about 250 quid I think) Check where the back doors shut, that the area around the wheelarches are free from rot too.
Just make sure the gas conversion has been done properly, if you can drive it make sure it drives OK on gas, if not you'll spend forever messing around trying to solve it. Things like the auto box too, and the high and low range lever moves, and it does actually go into low range.
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Smiler
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I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :)
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So it's not just me who has a hidden perversion to these things then.  |
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www.Auto-tat.co.uk'96 Range Rover P38 DSE (daily driver) '71 Reliant Scimitar SE5 GTE 3.0ltr Jag V6 Conversion '79 Reliant Scimitar SE6A 3.0ltr 24valve Omega Conversion '85 Escort Cabrio 2.0 Zetec - Sold '91 BMW 525i - Sold '82 Cortina 2.9i Ghia Cosworth - Sold '72 VW Campervan - Sold '65 LandRover 88" - Sold
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I have said many times before on here, but I used to love mine. There are plenty of problems with them but generally reliable and parts prices are cheap. A few problems I used to suffer from with running on LPG are firstly I had a 100 litre gas tank in the boot which meant there was only a small amount of space left in the boot so I couldnt get my german shephards in the back. Secondly the 100 litre tank gave me a range of between 150-175 mile before it needed refilling and as the neareset LPG station to me was an 18 mile round trip away and wasnt on my normal route it became a bit of a mare especially as I used to do around 400 mile a week in it  Other problem was more of an annoyance but a 100 litre tank used to take anywhere between 2 or 3 minutes upto 15 minutes to fill it up, which I think used to depend on how full the gas tank was at the petrol station. Apart from those drawbacks and the fact you have to make sure the ignition system is in top condition so that you get a good spark they are well worth getting. |
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Mr S
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10-4 Good buddy.
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I've got a 1986 Rangie V8 on LPG and it's fantastic. Granted it's not exactly quick, but then that's not the point of them... The chassis can rot on them, especially if they've been used off-road and not cleaned under there afterwards, so give that a good look. Especially the rear chassis section. They're not dear to buy, but if you can't weld, it will all cost money. Ditto what was said about the tailgates earlier. Mine has a 60 litre tank (48 litre fill), and does between 10 and 15mpg, so I get a range of between 110ish and 150 or so miles, sometimes it's a pain in the backside, but as long as you plan any long trips, you're fine. Besides, you can always switch back to petrol if you get stuck. As others have said, ignition systems are a notoriously weak point on LPG'd rangies, make sure you use NGK plugs, and at least OE quality dizzy cap, rotor arm and leads - cheap stuff is a false economy... The other problem with LPG is cold weather. They rely on the coolant in the system to keep the vapouriser warm, otherwise they ice up really quickly once you set off... You can either start the engine and run it for a couple of minutes before you set off, or get a kenlowe pre-heater (about £100 off the bay), which plugs into your house/garage mains 240v supply and contains a pump and heater element to heat your coolant up before you set off - takes about 20-30 minutes on a Rangie. Bonus is that you get nice warm heaters as soon as you drive...! Oh, replace the viscous fan with a big electric jobby too (fan from breakers yard, thermostatic switch from www.vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk, about £30) - saves a bit of juice and frees up a couple of bhp... Other than that, just the usual things! Parts are cheap enough from places like www.paddockspares.com and there's always plenty for breaking on ebay... Cheers, Martin |
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LowStandards
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Ain't the 'Vogue' when they ruined it for the school run mum? Get an older one, its not right unless you can hose the interior down  |
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Mr S
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10-4 Good buddy.
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It's when they introduced a bit of class, you wouldn't understand |
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LowStandards
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Ah 'Class' thats what it is, silly me...
You'll be glad yours aint a vogue when its chassis deep in the brown stuff this weekend!
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Mr S
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10-4 Good buddy.
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Hehe, forgot you have an aversion to comfort... And even if mine was a vogue, I'd still hose it clean inside....  |
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LowStandards
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Its not a proper car if it don't hurt when you drag yourself out of it!
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Mr S
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10-4 Good buddy.
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On a more serious note, ignoring Gimpy, if the wiring has been hacked about, leave it well alone.... Mine had been and it's a nightmare getting it all sorted....! And if it's got ABS, make sure it's working, a replacement pump from LR is about £900!
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Jan 10, 2007 11:03:16 GMT
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I've fancied one of these too, but fancy being really perverse, running a TurboD (VM2.5 diesel) on Chip fat at 40MPH. Slow but lardy and comfortable.
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Jan 10, 2007 15:02:31 GMT
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I've got a Range rover at the minute and i have to say its one of the best cars i've owned.I think the other guys have covered most of the problems,i know head linings are a problem as they sag with age.As for electric fan i would have to disagree as mine had a twin kenlow unit on that caused more problems than it solved,so when i went to my local land rover specialist(Rockingham land rovers) they advised me to go back to a viscous fan.Use a viscous unit off a rangie but fit a 300tdi fan, I use mine quite alot and have noticed no drop in power or economy but thats not to say other people have had different ideas.Also check for uneven tyre wear, a small amout is ok its when its excessive as it may have twisted a chassis ;D
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Jan 10, 2007 18:36:15 GMT
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Can't add anything other than to reinforce what everyone else has said....a good one will be fantastic fun, a bad one will be a nightmarish money-pit...check the LR mags...the bits are in the main dead cheap (except Nissan alternators, knew I shoulda bought a V8....  ) and there's nothing to touch them in the brown stuff this side of a Unimog. |
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Jan 10, 2007 18:38:01 GMT
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i guess if your up in scotland it makes sense, but big heavy 4x4's are WORSE in the snow on normal roads unless it REALLY snows and you gotta get through over a foot of the stuff. on your standard half icey, slushy winter road you really don't want a 2 ton brick shaped object with a high centre of gravity, your 4x4 system may help you get moving up some hills but it aint gonna help you stop or steer the thing.
i have had landys, 4x4 sierras, a few J offroaders and a lada, best thing i have ever owned for getting around on slippey roads was my old mk2 granny with tall skinny tyres and LSD.
proper offroader will be great off road, but a liability on an icey road, rangeys are great, but same as any luxury vehicle will turn out expensive if you buy a dog.
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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Jan 10, 2007 19:03:56 GMT
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Yea, in icy conditions 4x4 just means twice as less traction ;D
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Jan 10, 2007 19:37:05 GMT
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4x4 sierras are great if you put boggo spec skinny steels on em as they'll actually get some grip off the road, still managed to hit kerbs and stuff in mine last time though, great for drifting about everywhere but they run out of ground clearance really fast!!  |
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Volvo back as my main squeeze, more boost and some interior goodies on the way.
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) and there's nothing to touch them in the brown stuff this side of a Unimog.
