eurogranada
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So the rack should be on its way back to me by now and will hopefully be received Wednesday. If so I'll at least try and fit it that evening. I'll see how I get on getting the engine back on its supports with the help of my wife first but if that fails, I know who to call, lol! So I received a few pics of the rack modification. Nothing really great but nice to document for later. The rack was leaking from this end bush which was rebuilt using new o-rings etc. last time around: Main culprit is assumed to be the nylon ring(s) rather than the o-rings. A universal part that could be made to function was proposed: End result. I do not know 100% for sure, but presume that in the end a smaller seal was actually used. Given it was introduced into the bush and the earlier seal shown had the same outer dimensions. The bush seems to have been machined to allow the seal to fit as the outer edge in the final pic looks thinner. The seal as it sits now should be leak proof I am told. So now we wait to receive the rack so I can install it again. Meanwhile I've not sat idle. As a happy wife equals to a happy life (or so I'm told), I thought I'd do something she'd been looking forward to for months and I'd been dreading for just as long: finishing the front and back garden by filling the flower beds and planting some living green stuff. I'd dreaded this as it turned out that getting 5m3 of black sand for flower beds delivered turned out to be real expensive. And than you'd either have a big pile of sand on your drive or several big bags (even more costly) and I'd have to shovel it into the beds by myself. In the end I asked the guy who did our garden work and he turned out to be cheaper and not only that but his rates included his labour to help get the sand into the beds as well. So no doing it by myself then! Win!! So last Saturday at 8:30 he arrived with sand load number one in the back of his multifunctional trailer. We wheelbarrowed that load into the back garden beds and with that those were filled and load two could be gotten. As that was front garden sand we were able to directly shovel it from the trailer into the beds. But one load was not enough so a final load was retrieved and shoveled in. Pfew... what a painful work for my foot, leg and back as I have an injury to my foot that although taken care of creates muscle pains in other areas. We were well on shedule and there was time to also go and get the gravel we wanted in one of the flower beds. So a fourth trip for him and some short lived relief for me ensued. The gravel was quickly wheelbarrowed to the back yard flower bed and distributed. That meant job done!! I'd not expected this final step to happen today and at such low cost so that felt like a real bonus. Although while doing this work I found another problem on the house that urgently needs taking care of (a water leak from a dormer side panel coming loose) which was a little bit of a bummer. Enjoy the end result... On to the next jobs, hopefully this will be the rack...
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eurogranada
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Well curse word!
The newly revised and improved rack has been assembled and tested. Despite the rebuilders optimism, it turned out to still "not be good". I presume this means it still leaks. Although another time when he used this expression it turned out that he wasn't satisfied with the steering feel differing between turning right vs. left. The rack leaking is far more probable though.
He'd put the rack aside for a while and will now resume work on it tomorrow. This puts paid to MOT this week for sure and quite possibly even getting the rack back any time soon. This guy is a specialist who knows what he's doing so if he's having such a hard time it sort of scares me...
So curse word! curse word! curse word! curse word!!
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Apr 10, 2019 11:50:05 GMT
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At least hes tested it and isnt happy with it, instead of testing it and sending it back anyway. Or not testing it.. When it eventually makes its way back to you, at least you know it'll be sorted.
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eurogranada
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Apr 10, 2019 13:24:56 GMT
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At least hes tested it and isnt happy with it, instead of testing it and sending it back anyway. Or not testing it.. When it eventually makes its way back to you, at least you know it'll be sorted. Right, 100% right! And I try to think like that but it just doesn't work that way... Moving a 1450kg car that can't be started as it would spew fluid everywhere, that can't be properly pushed as the front wheels live their own lives and that simply needs moving out of the garage from time to time to get things on the house done as I need access to tools and materials (like at least twice this weekend) is just a pain... Not to mention possibly missing out on another nice part of the season. But let's not get too much ahead of ourselves. Hopefully he'll be more happy with it tomorrow and it's off to me again.... I just don't dare really count on this, but I can hope for it! If not I'll create a steering connector and bar on the front like a boat's rudder lol... I have to have the car more mobile than it sits now.
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Apr 10, 2019 14:58:08 GMT
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Well that's a disappointment, but hopefully he gets it sorted soon.
I have a set of wheel dollies if that might make moving the car easier?
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eurogranada
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Apr 10, 2019 16:45:07 GMT
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Well that's a disappointment, but hopefully he gets it sorted soon. I have a set of wheel dollies if that might make moving the car easier? Thanks for the offer. I also hope it gets solved and sent back ASAP... Wheel dollies would not matter in this case. They’d still flop about as the wheels aren’t linked. Also they’d have trouble with the step at the entrance as well. If need be I’ll rig something up to link and steer the wheels.
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eurogranada
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Unfortunately the weekend came and went but my rack never materialised. No update on it as of yet also and I hate to keep bugging the guy. But I also really want to know how it's progressing, if I can expect it back anytime soon...
The weekend was not entirely a waste though, as I did some work on a lowered ceiling for my daughters room and me and a friend put in a nice new and safe breaker box with added groups.
The drawback was that the Granada had to be put outside for this work as the breaker box is in a dedicated "room" that is directly behind the garage door to the side. Pushing it out was a small challenge. Tires needed and got some air (long lives the 50 litre compressor), but the front wheels each steering in different directions didn't help either. Anyway we got it out. So while my friend was doing his thing supported by me, I took some time to make a connecting rod between the wheels. Nothing fancy, just a 20x45mm piece of wood the right length, drilled at the ends to take the longest M8 bolts I had lying around and the corners cut at angles so the wheels could steer without hitting the wood.
As the M8 bolts are by no means a great fit to the tapers in the hubs it's all a bit sloppy, but it worked a treat anyway. Moving one wheel would at least to some extent move the other and because of added drag I think they were also less inclined to move. Keeping the wheels straight went a lot better as well. The only bother was that the two of us were just not strong enough to push the Granada up the sloping drive over the threshold at the entrance. My lovely bionic wife to the rescue as the three of us were able to quickly push the car back in.
In 1,5 weeks I have a bit of holiday time coming up so I do really hope that I can have the car mobile by then. I'm missing easter this year already. That bums me out a little as it is the start of the oldtimer season with several well arranged, well put together tours/car scavenger hunts (for lack of the proper words) that I would really really have liked to attend. And the weather apparently will be awesome to boot...
Just got updated on my rack. Time was not available yet so the rack is in pieces but not yet worked on. A funeral puts paid to it getting worked on today, although hope was expressed that he would get to it tonight so he'd have news tomorrow.
Well let's just wait and see... Although I'm not the best at this kind of waiting. I have no problem waiting 6 weeks on something/someone if one states before hand it'll be 6 weeks. But this sort of unconfirmed and ever changing wait while time keeps passing by is not my forte.
Lets keep our fingers crossed that it'll now soon be remedied and on it's way back to me.
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Apr 16, 2019 21:53:04 GMT
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I did some work on a lowered ceiling for my daughters room Careful! First its just a roof chop.. Next she'll ask for some sick rims for her deskchair. Before you know it you'll be installing HIDs in her night light..
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Unfortunately the weekend came and went but my rack never materialised. No update on it as of yet also and I hate to keep bugging the guy. But I also really want to know how it's progressing, if I can expect it back anytime soon... The weekend was not entirely a waste though, as I did some work on a lowered ceiling for my daughters room and me and a friend put in a nice new and safe breaker box with added groups. The drawback was that the Granada had to be put outside for this work as the breaker box is in a dedicated "room" that is directly behind the garage door to the side. Pushing it out was a small challenge. Tires needed and got some air (long lives the 50 litre compressor), but the front wheels each steering in different directions didn't help either. Anyway we got it out. So while my friend was doing his thing supported by me, I took some time to make a connecting rod between the wheels. Nothing fancy, just a 20x45mm piece of wood the right length, drilled at the ends to take the longest M8 bolts I had lying around and the corners cut at angles so the wheels could steer without hitting the wood. As the M8 bolts are by no means a great fit to the tapers in the hubs it's all a bit sloppy, but it worked a treat anyway. Moving one wheel would at least to some extent move the other and because of added drag I think they were also less inclined to move. Keeping the wheels straight went a lot better as well. The only bother was that the two of us were just not strong enough to push the Granada up the sloping drive over the threshold at the entrance. My lovely bionic wife to the rescue as the three of us were able to quickly push the car back in. In 1,5 weeks I have a bit of holiday time coming up so I do really hope that I can have the car mobile by then. I'm missing easter this year already. That bums me out a little as it is the start of the oldtimer season with several well arranged, well put together tours/car scavenger hunts (for lack of the proper words) that I would really really have liked to attend. And the weather apparently will be awesome to boot... Just got updated on my rack. Time was not available yet so the rack is in pieces but not yet worked on. A funeral puts paid to it getting worked on today, although hope was expressed that he would get to it tonight so he'd have news tomorrow. Well let's just wait and see... Although I'm not the best at this kind of waiting. I have no problem waiting 6 weeks on something/someone if one states before hand it'll be 6 weeks. But this sort of unconfirmed and ever changing wait while time keeps passing by is not my forte. Lets keep our fingers crossed that it'll now soon be remedied and on it's way back to me. Alex - If it makes you feel any better - I currently have 3 of my cars in bits & not on the road plus a huge amount of work on the house / garden to sort and I'm getting nowhere fast - much like myself you will get there - just not in the timescales that we promise ourselves - but at least you are further up the progress chart than you were at the start of the year (that's what I have to keep reminding myself) - any progress is better than no progress - 'Onwards'
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eurogranada
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I did some work on a lowered ceiling for my daughters room Careful! First its just a roof chop.. Next she'll ask for some sick rims for her deskchair. Before you know it you'll be installing HIDs in her night light.. You raise an interesting thought, lol. Thankfully it's still a little bit away, but you may be very right. If she's as demanding with her car as with her phone, I have my work cut out for me!
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eurogranada
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@grumpynorthener, you are very right. I just need to be reminded some days of how far I've come and how futile some of the things that sometimes bother me are in the grand scheme of things.
And this definitely is a minor nuisance in that regard. It's just that the car in general was ready to be enjoyed end of 2016 and the whole of 2017 and 2018 have passed while sorting out little and bigger niggles. Although we all know that moving house had a lot to do with why 2018 was not the most productive Granada year.
I just love seeing my car in my garage and can't wait to be tearing up the streets again in it. Using it for what I like best: cruising on a sunny day in a new (to me) environment.
I admire what you achieve very much. You almost seem robotlike in what you get done. Just look at the NEC expo and how you did that while also carrying on the Corsair etc... Respect!
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eurogranada
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So time is quickly ticking away... I've missed at least two of the three Grananda Highlights of the year already. So we're off to a good start again this year!
Without wanting to stalk the rebuilder, I was condemned to waiting paitently... I got a message one day that Tuesday after easter would be the day, really, promised!
Well it will be no surprise to most fo you that Wednesday came and went without a rack appearing. As I had a week off from work I was a bit miffed. There went all hopes of getting the rack fitted, the pre MOT checks and adjustments done and an MOT actually effected. Again...
Worse still, the car being pretty much limited to moving 65 cm backwards maximum meant it held me up in getting to tools, materials etc. needed for the diy jobs around the house. So I felt blocked in every way in my head. Combine that with work calling, apping and mailing like I wasn't even on holiay at all and I had a tough week! I know it's all me and how I let it all affect me, but this particular pitfall I still have a hard time dealing with. Maybe I've been in this game to long with 20,5 years in the same office seat....
Anyway, having accomplished about 1/15th of what I had set out to get done, an MOT for the daily being the most memorable, we were soon back at work when out of the blue an app lands on my phone. The rack had been succesfully rebuilt/sealed/modified and had now been on the test bed under pressure for 20 minutes. The man was possibly even more happy than I was with that. He told me he'd modified all seals to modern variants, where needed including the modification of seal seats etc. (apparently square seals need different seats to o rings etc.). He was now confident that it would last another lifetime. I haven't heard from him since, but I expect the rack to be with me Wednesday end of business day. I'm going to try and fit it immediately, but we'll see if it works out.
Something tells me to first see than believe the rack will even turn up.If it does, some actuall work can be done and a decent update can be written.
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eurogranada
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Well I guess my intuition or knowledge of human nature has developed well over the years, as no rack appeared even yesterday... The guy suddenly went very quiet as well, not responding to a gentle query if the rack had survived testing.
Today an app, admitting that he didn't answer immediately as he was enormously embarrassed as he'd not gotten to sending the rack back to me and felt bad about it. Apparently it's now packed and ready for pickup this afternoon. Looks like I know what my friday will bring: Granada time!!
Yes!
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Good to read that your rack is on the move and that you will get it installed fairly quickly. It is unfortunate that the rebuilder spent so much time on it but we must all believe that he did a proper job in the end.
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mk2cossie
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so will you be heading to the RR weekender in the coupe eurogranada?
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eurogranada
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so will you be heading to the RR weekender in the coupe eurogranada? Oh how I wish that were true! I'd love to finally show this car, talk about this car and more importantly enjoy it as I intended/had in mind as I built it. Honestly, RRW on the 18th feels a little too daunting. It seems to be a large event and being my first time abroad with a car and first time attending such a show I just know this doesn't help my comfort level. As the car at best is MOT'd the day before I don't think I should do this to myself. I had the intention of attending RRG this year. I may possibly be allowed to join The Doctor for the journey. If the car is ready for it.... If the rack is delivered tomorrow and I'm able to fit it, the rest of the weekend will be spent doing MOT prep/checks. Next week would then see it MOT'd although my work schedule is not the most convenient to get this done. As it's expected to pass I hope I can then use it for a bit to build confidence. When confidence is somewhat growing I'll start filling the calendar! But RRG I hope to really be able to attend!
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Sure, tag along if you want!
We're probably breaking up the trip in 2 days, as its a long drive. Thursday we drive to the Dover area, Friday to Shelsley and probably Monday the other way around.
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Best way to build confidence is a road trip! But I know how you feel, haha. At least if you go you'd have friends to help you out if need be?
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eurogranada
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At last!I left all of you with me hoping my rack would finally show up last friday. Well, as I got home there was nothing yet. I had luch and we deceided to walk the dogs and as we got back a delivery van came up the street. Hoping it was for me, those hopes dwindled when I found a note saying "we've missed you...." upon opening the door. But there was a comment on the note and as I was reading that the doorbel rang... I opened the door to a very friendly delivery man holding a huge box. He said he was just on the way out of the neighbourhood when he saw us heading for the house and decided to drop by again. Very friendly I must say! Also he'd left his number on the note I found saying to give him a call before 16:30 and he'd come round again. Well that turned out to not be necessary but is another testatment to his friendly nature I guess. Anyway with the rack now in my posession I had my own two QA inspectors (who send out their greetings to Sid and Harley) check the box over and give me permission to open it up. It was pretty well packed but I soon had it out. What came out was both a relief and a bit of a bummer. Let's be frank, all this rebuild action (it took him three tries last time and at least as many this time) has taken a toll on the powder coating and paint. It's not looking its best. But at least it was in one piece and he'd left the alignment in place by not removing any of the rod ends. And supposedly not leaking either! I went to look for some black paint but found I'd gotten rid of all my almost empty cans during the move. At that point I decided it was probably best anyway to see if the rack even worked, before prettying it all up. Access isn't great, which also means visibility of the part is equally great. If need be a small brush will go a long way if it all proves ok. Having made the decision to press on I was on full blast! I had the car pushed back, jacked up, supported and the engine lifted in no time. But then it all turned on me. I don't know if I was just too eager to get the thing mounted, but it fought me ALL the way... I just couldn't get it in as easy as it had come out. And knowing it had come out easily enough meant I also knew it should be able to slide back in easily enough! Besides I had done this same drill at least three times now with an engine on top. Cue a substantial amount of frustration. After much too long a time trying I gave in and hoisted the engine up some more. Low and behold suddenly the rack went in quite simple. I still feel like I didn't hoist the engine up so much upon removal, but maybe I'm just wrong... Anyway with the rack now in place, I could do up the hardware. One u-bolt was a bit wide and hard to get in, then I forgot to add the retaining plate so had to redo the bolts again. On the other side my wood support extended just a little too far to get to the bolts at all. I thought next would be a good idea to attach the feed and return lines to the rack. First one wouldn't come close to the line at all, which is strange as it is a pretty solidly mounted hardline. Oh right, I forgot that I had to screw in a convertor for the hard line! I had taken this out as not to provide an extra clue to the not factory application in my Granada. This of course now being hard as the pretty solidly mounted hardline was now in the way. Thankfully there was enough flex in the line to get it just far enough out of the way for just long enough to get that thing screwed in. After that the line connected easily. On to the return to the reservoir. For some reason the barb around the line didn't turn freely by hand. Even after WD40. This made threading it in a real pain. I was just about to give up when suddenly it gripped. After that it was soon tightened up. I pressed on with the stabiliser bar links, the tie rod ends to the spindles and then finally the steering shaft from wheel to rack. Of course the bolt had to fall from my hands when my wife came in to ask if I was now proceeding a little better as I had managed to get the rack in. Well, I WAS....up until that moment. A search for the bolt ensued. Thankfully I found it. I'd hate to just replace but not know if the lost one will cause a problem at some stage. Upon mounting the shaft I was happy to see the steering wheel dead straight with the wheels also straight. That at least meant alignment was still fine. In the end I think it was all more to do with having jacked the car up one notch lower then before on the axle stands and not raising the engine as much as I needed to that made me suffer this time around. Anyway, once done it was soon forgotten. I filled the reservoir and bled the system. No leaks so far. I rolled the car out and on the sloped drive I had some dripping of red fluid going on.... I couldn't see anything coming from the hoses or connections and there was no fluid being lost from the gaiters either so I assumed it was fluid that had leaked into the subframe from the hose and hardline being unconnected. I cleaned it up and had a quick 2 minute drive. At least it all worked again. We had a visitor that evening so no more work untill Sunday. I parked it in the garage under power and put cardboard underneath as a visual indicator as well as floor protection. Sunday MOT checks were on the books. I pushed the car out as I wanted the engine cold so I could check everything without fear of hot exhaust. Again jacked the front up, put the stands under and had a good look around, cleaning where needed. No new traces of red fluid... I started the car and had another look after some steering action. I had to add a little fluid but I assume that will have been air being expelled. Squeezing the gaiters there was no sound of fluid in there. I shut the engine off and started the mot checks. First up wheel bearings. Left had a little play, right was ok. But I felt something a bit weird when turning the wheels. Turns out that the disks were working loose from the hubs. All ten bolts needed tightening. Despite having been torqued up with a torque wrench originally. I tightened them again and went on to the wheel bearing. The split pin was so tight it broke upon removal. The bearing itself needed a little adjustment. Again, typical as I'd followed the Ford procedure to the letter, but doing so again the play was now gone. Right hand side, there was no play, just the same issue with the disk versus hub. I adjusted the handbrake as it's throw was extremely short, though it did release the wheels when off. Now there's just a click more throw that feels more normal. I checked its operation and it seems to work very well. There's a slight bit of sound coming from the rear wheels turning so the shoes are adjusted pretty close to the drums. But as they have a self adjusting mechanism when the handbrake is pulled I think that is just as it should be. The wheels seem to turn freely but with the added drag of the diff I found it hard to determine if their is anything really amiss. The car brakes fine when driving, always in a straight line, not pulling to one side or the other. I did find some play on the rear wheels. This I need opinions on. I could move wheel and drum a little when grabbing the wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock. Still, the bearing carrier and the backplate that is attached to that are solidly mounted. As the hub the wheels and therefore disks bolt to, is contained by the large centre nut on the rear axle stubs, I think I need to tighten those up a little. It's the only thing I can think of given the assembly. Agreed? Apart from the above rear wheel issue, for MOT purposes I think I only need to put on new exhaust clamps at the down pipe to centre pipe joints and put some exhaust paste on. I'll try and get the MOT stuff done this week and hopefully MOT it Friday afternoon. Here's to hoping the rack will perform well from now on. I must say though, I didn't find a bill to go with the rack so as far as I know now he rebuilt it for free... To do in general: - fuel gauge/tank sender calibration - temp gauge - oil pressure gauge (actual mechanically oil fed type that needs a t-off from the block and a better secured end connector - oil and filter change - add cubbies to the rear seat area - find decent floor mats to protect the (in hindsight) too cheap carpet And as a winter project either regasket this engine or build a replacement... It stinks from oils being all over the place.
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Progress Alex - Progress
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