MiataMark
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Based on recent experience your time would probably be more productively spent in the kitchen! Good luck with finding a job, or just go it alone. NAIL - HEAD - HAMMER interface !! You are right, the one I spoke to last week had no bloody clue.... told me to go look on their in house system, tried to explain that I worked in specialised markets..... no good.... over the top of her sweet head. Still, I will go, you never know. If it's the Jobcentre Plus, I went in prepared, CV, business plan for setting up on my own, list of jobs I'd applied to etc. All I got was you're obviously well prepared so you don't need to come in every week. Total waste of time and the taxes I've paid etc etc.. I'm a bit specialised as well and totally outside of their experience base.
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NAIL - HEAD - HAMMER interface !! You are right, the one I spoke to last week had no bloody clue.... told me to go look on their in house system, tried to explain that I worked in specialised markets..... no good.... over the top of her sweet head. Still, I will go, you never know. If it's the Jobcentre Plus, I went in prepared, CV, business plan for setting up on my own, list of jobs I'd applied to etc. All I got was you're obviously well prepared so you don't need to come in every week. Total waste of time and the taxes I've paid etc etc.. I'm a bit specialised as well and totally outside of their experience base. Just back.... She could not even get a description of my job on their database. Expect me to do 3 applications per week and 8 searches per week. Applications.... not that easy when few jobs available. Searches.... I do more than that. Right, coffee done, sandwich eaten..... back to the real world of gutting the kitchen.
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Quick update with some pics of th design we decided on in the end. Lets see if you guys can figure out the changes from the old kitchen. We are hoping to get a more useable and practical kitchen out of it. These two plans are to slightly different scale, so do not get caught out. Two more deliveries today as well. Handles..... these guys are incredibly well priced and have a large selection. Speedy service too. Always a few knobs too.... And of course the three worktops landed at 10.30 as well. Once again, service with a smile, and madly competitive prices. Bella Noche. Now to get on with some work, lunch is over.
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Last Edit: Oct 18, 2012 21:04:21 GMT by grizz
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Just a quick observation Grizz;
couldn't you swap the dishwasher and the end unit around, to allow you to centre the sink in the window opening (or if your sink is reversible, set it up as right hand drainer)? It would look better visually and would also mean you werent stacking up the drainer underneath the wall unit. Also, if you have dishes stacked on the drainer, you need to reach over the cooker to get into that corner space.
Great seeing it all come together - I never remember to take enough photos myself and always wish I had when I look back at things!
Joe
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Last Edit: Oct 9, 2012 16:10:25 GMT by Deleted
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MiataMark
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Just a quick observation Grizz; couldn't you swap the dishwasher and the end unit around, to allow you to centre the sink in the window opening (or if your sink is reversible, set it up as right hand drainer)? It would look better visually and would also mean you werent stacking up the drainer underneath the wall unit. Also, if you have dishes stacked on the drainer, you need to reach over the cooker to get into that corner space. Great seeing it all come together - I never remember to take enough photos myself and always wish I had when I look back at things! Joe Also if you moved to cooker to the left a bit, as well as the sink to the right, you'd be able to get a better corner unit in and be able to make better use of the corner. Mark
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I take it you're ordering the SPAM FROM through B's and Q's (spotted their name on the plans)? Several friends have knocked them, but both in the last house renovation, and this current one, they've been pretty good, with all parts delivered correctly, decent, detailed plans, and quick service. Also the price was signifcantly cheaper than the equivalent Homebase kitchen. Like yourself, I built and fitted the kitchen myself, but had help with the worktops. Money well spent! Looking forward to see how this turns out.
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Can't really add much (unless you find a tip treasure AGA that is) but would suggest lots and lots of sockets, both above and inside units as have found there are so many appliances in a kitchen we soon run out of points. Also how about runningpower and water through the wall to provide outside services Ttfn Glenn
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Just a quick observation Grizz; couldn't you swap the dishwasher and the end unit around, to allow you to centre the sink in the window opening (or if your sink is reversible, set it up as right hand drainer)? It would look better visually and would also mean you werent stacking up the drainer underneath the wall unit. Also, if you have dishes stacked on the drainer, you need to reach over the cooker to get into that corner space. Great seeing it all come together - I never remember to take enough photos myself and always wish I had when I look back at things! Joe Hi Joe, all valid observations. I had the same questions from some other sites I play on. The sink does not HAVE to be centered. So we moved it to the left so that the space to the right of it is enlarged by about 300mm which makes the space where the kettle and breadbin and cutting board live, bigger. The area is used for vegetable and food preparation as it is 1.8m from the rubbish bin which is tucked in next to the side of the American style side by side free standing fridge freezer we have bought. It concentrates most of the food prep to one side of the kitchen. If you look on the plans, there is a wall where there is only a double door glass fronted cabinet. This is where our extendable 6-8 seater kitchen table lives. It gets moved central when we want to entertain groups. So keeping that side of the kitchen more clear of work stations works for us. We have lived here just over 2 years and made sure we analysed the useage paterns in there to maximize it for ourselves. The plan is to retire in this house, so we only need to please ourselves. The fridge/freezer will live on the wall to the right of the sink which is also under part of the angled ceiling for the stairs going up. It may look wrong, and for someone like me who likes symetry it is wrong, but it works so will be staying that way. If I could be bothered to move the gas and extractor exit in the wall, I would move the cooker over by 2-3 foot..... but cost and hassle means I will not be doing it. We also like the splashback so another reason not to move it all.
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Can't really add much (unless you find a tip treasure AGA that is) but would suggest lots and lots of sockets, both above and inside units as have found there are so many appliances in a kitchen we soon run out of points. Also how about runningpower and water through the wall to provide outside services Ttfn Glenn All three covered already, power, hot and cold water outside.
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I take it you're ordering the SPAM FROM through B's and Q's (spotted their name on the plans)? Several friends have knocked them, but both in the last house renovation, and this current one, they've been pretty good, with all parts delivered correctly, decent, detailed plans, and quick service. Also the price was signifcantly cheaper than the equivalent Homebase kitchen. Like yourself, I built and fitted the kitchen myself, but had help with the worktops. Money well spent! Looking forward to see how this turns out. This is my 3rd B&Q kitchen I will be fitting, the first was perfect, the second at Nicola's old house was nightmare, start to finish. Lets hope this all works easy. The price differential, with added Trade discount was a huge factor.
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Last few pics for today. While removing some of the units, the colour we bought the kitchen fitted with came out again. Eye scorching to say the least. Found a rat..... Last pic, the fridge wil be fitted on the right under the staircase ceiling. Have found some really nice spotlights for the kitchen as well, will be off to fetch them first thing tomorrow as the electrician is here at 12.30 to let me know just how much he is going to cost me.
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Last Edit: Oct 18, 2012 21:05:45 GMT by grizz
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Oct 10, 2012 20:14:06 GMT
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Knackered tonight...... Stripped back the tiles today..... ended up with bits of plaster coming off etc. Called Glen, our usual plasterer at 2pm today.... Could he come in soon to just smooth the mess I had to make out of the walls in order to get the tiles off ? "When do you need me mate ?" he asked. I said in about two minute, which had him laughing. We agreed on him calling me first thing in the morning, popping over and plastering and then going off to his day job. SORTED !! Had the electrician in as well today to look at the kitchen electrics..... fitting the new lights, making safe and renewing some of the switches and plugs as well as removing some of the bodgework. His job will be an added £180.00 because I am not allowed to work on the electrics. I had two pipes to deal with running vertically down from the boiler..... plan was to box them and the electric plug in, but that makes for more work, and also breaks the smooth flow of the tiles.. So I addressed the one pipe by rerouting it out the house and the copper pipe will be painted to match the colour of the tiles. The rerouting proved to be slightly tricky as the only long masonry drills I have maxxed out at 12mm and I needed a 25mm or one inch drill to make it work. So I called Tony the builder who lives up at no 1 rather than get the bike out and ride to B&Q to buy a large drill bit in 300mm length to get the hole through the kitchen wall to the outside. Yes, he did have a Makita and 25mm bit, he was working up on the farm, across from the Church house and graveyard. So I walked the mile up to the farm, which allowed the bonding liquid that I had painted on where the tiles were before, which will allow Glen to come in and plaster straight onto it. What an amazing tool.... went through the wall like a hot knife through butter. Drainage pipe under the boiler re-routed Also note the loose hanging plug box, been like that all a long time it seems. All this is being tidied up by the electrician. Removed the kitchen sink last, after everything was tidied up. Moved the dish washer and found another home...... and the deceased nearby. Deceased on right side of picture. Lastly, this is pretty much what our kitchen has turned into...... a pile of fire wood. Hope the watchers are still awake.
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Last Edit: Oct 19, 2012 8:26:54 GMT by grizz
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Oct 10, 2012 21:34:04 GMT
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Still watching here Grizz, all good progress, looking forward to seeing what you make from it.
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Oct 10, 2012 21:45:37 GMT
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Looking good Grizz
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B&Q delivery guys were here at 08.00
We got first delivery slot..... Yay ??
No.
Glen the plasterer called at 08.30 to say he was 15 minutes away.
Then Tony the Electrician called to say his one guy finished a job at Bluewater earlier than expected yesterday, could he come over today rather than tomorrow? Of course I said YES PLEASE.
So the actual fitting is all on hold till these guys are gone.
In the mean time I shall try to figure out the assembly destructions.
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Grizz, if that is a condensing boiler just makes sure that the drain pipe that is now outside can't freeze up as the boiler will shut down just when you need it !!
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looks great grizz, the only thing that stands out for me is the wall cupboards behind the door with nothing underneath them, if i'm interpreting it right and the door won't open fully to the wall, that would do my nut. Would it be worth making that wall good and just holding off hanging those units for a bit, to see if you can manage without? i just have a thing about doors that won't open to 90 degrees
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Grizz, if that is a condensing boiler just makes sure that the drain pipe that is now outside can't freeze up as the boiler will shut down just when you need it !! Hi Gus. Yep, the drain pipe will be both insulated and draining into an alkaline soakaway.
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Your old kitchen looks like the one in my counsin house just with less drawers Keep up the good work
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Oct 11, 2012 11:24:54 GMT
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looks great grizz, the only thing that stands out for me is the wall cupboards behind the door with nothing underneath them, if i'm interpreting it right and the door won't open fully to the wall, that would do my nut. Would it be worth making that wall good and just holding off hanging those units for a bit, to see if you can manage without? I just have a thing about doors that won't open to 90 degrees There is a radiator below those units on the wall so we cannot put regular units in there. The loose standing unit will stay there. As far as the door is concerned, the vacuum cleaner and floor steamers live there. I do prefer doors open all the way but in this case its a solution.
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