Tarka
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Glad you found it and even more glad that someone took the rare step to let you know where it was - that bit of the story has reinstated my faith in society.
Anyway, I'm another vote for the Toad kit. The Ai606 on my old Golf never gave a false alarm in 3 years of ownership and it has a horrible noise that was very easy to recognise. Alsways got a sick feeling in my stomach if i ever heard a similar one!!
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qwerty
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Gutted that it got nicked mate but least you got it back!!
I think a visual deterent is alwasy good like a disklock. Then have a dry ice machine hooked up so if they start the car with out switching a switch slowly the car fills up with smoke. Have a nice loud in car horn as well ;D
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The SOC officer looked at it but didn't take any prints, gave me the old "it'll cost more to fix than its worth" routine though. Very useful  Are they insurance assessors now then? Is stealing less (financially) valuable cars not a crime? If these theives got it started and then killed someone in it would it be OK if it wasn't an expensive car? What on earth is that about, isn't the point of police work to catch criminals and therefore reduce offences? |
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during a similar thread on another board, I noticed people describing the location of their "hidden" kill switch, next to their profile (with location) and a nice sig pic of the car  Let's just hope thieves cant read or use computers then............ Yeah I think we need to 'up our game' certainly Tis a public board.  Leave a few less breadcrumbs hanging around...  its not hard to add it all up (Although I realise streets crims were likely opportunist local Lowlifes.) and add as meny deterents (some secret) and some obvious lairy obvious locks to our cars, I was thinking about some of those second set of door locks, cant remember who makes em. As for police yep thats rubbish, nowt to do with them. When my sis had a crash, leaving the car physically drivable, he told her they will move it for £150 than charge per day, she said my dad lives 50yards away and will get it, she called dad and he took the phone off her!  |
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 it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts  |
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Dec 11, 2006 10:15:56 GMT
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A nicked car isnt worth their effort unless they can get it moved for you and I don't know perhaps somehow hypothetically speaking of course get a taste of the £150 charge, hence the glib remarks and insistence to get driveable cars moved on lowloaders.
I was very pleasantly surprised a few years ago when my old Cavalier got pinched in broad daylight and the copper waited with the car till I got there (it was found within 15 minutes) and showed me how to get it started and drive it away - that guy was one in a million.
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Dec 11, 2006 10:46:53 GMT
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Cosmic add on door locks saved my old Cortina from being nicked a few times.
Hykee do (or did?) high security lock barrels for most classic / old cars. They used to advertise in Practical Classics.
The problem with lock barrels though is that the scum just break a window or (as they did with my Capri) they jammed a screwdriver through the door skin and sprung the lock without touching the barrel. A bad joke as you could unlock that car with your fingernail...
Has anyone started a proper security ideas thread yet? I don't mean daft stuff like wiring it up to the mains and lets be fiar, are you really going to remove the distry cap to remove the rotor EVERY time you park it up?
Immob switches are a good idea.
Also I can recomment Meta alarms, they are used by Audi and some other brands as the OE supplier. Toad are also good. Some of the fancier features of the Cliffords can be more trouble that they are worth, have heard a lot of people complaining about the £600+ ones being unreliable. Microscan also have a good reputation for reliability and are very good value. They are also the most DIY friendly of the four.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Reynolds501
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Volvos, they're boxy, but good.
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Dec 11, 2006 11:22:56 GMT
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Alistair, I'm so crashingly sorry for trying to inject a little humour into something that's quite a grim subject! it was only meant jokingly I think the security thread idea would be a great but for one thing, as someone already said, we don't need the scum potentially being able to read how we secure those financial but much loved burdens of ours, particularly as most profiles on here give a location (rough admittedly) and sometimes a clear picture of the member's car. It's kinda annoying that you have to think like this these days, but it's just how it is unfortunately. I guess a subtle titled members only section might be one idea, but then, that can seem a little off putting and unfriendly to potential new members who come on to browse around. I suppose we could just PM any new ideas, I'm not sure, but does this board support multi-member messaging? at least any ideas stay invisible then. |
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Dec 11, 2006 11:25:40 GMT
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we could pm to one person and post back all replies to trusty long serving enquirers, bit of effort but there you go. there was a security thread a bit back, just do all ya can. I have so far resisted fitting my old face off cd, just to try save the window.
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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Dec 11, 2006 11:35:38 GMT
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Alistair, I'm so crashingly sorry for trying to inject a little humour into something that's quite a grim subject! it was only meant jokingly I wasn't having a go. All I meant was if we try put a thread about security we should try keep it on topic so its easy for people to refer to. I didn't mean anything about this thread which is all about Street's problems and more about us showing a little solidarity. So long as you don't get into "my car has this alarm and I live here..." type stuff there no risks in passing along what good practice there is. |
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Dec 11, 2006 11:36:23 GMT
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Wouldn't worry overly about thieves reading this, picking on your car and then being able to steal it because they know what alarm you've got.... after all most alarms come with a sticker saying what brand it is, and knowing what brand it is hardly helps you disable it without it going off. I do agree that posts saying "My car has a immobiliser switch inside the ashtray" or whatever are a bit daft given that at some point or another most of us have had a conversation on here regarding where we live - for example alistairk recognised a shot I took of my mates crashed Volvo, named the road, then I went on to say that I lived just over the hill. But merely recommending good alarms from experience, or suggesting some alternative methods you may or may not have tried yourself seems pretty harmless. Personally I've got a floodlight with a PIR covering the driveway, and a dog that barks like a nutter when the floodlight comes on  |
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Never trust a man
Who names himself Trevor.
Or one day you might find
He's not a real drug dealer.
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Reynolds501
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Volvos, they're boxy, but good.
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Dec 11, 2006 11:39:19 GMT
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That's not 'alf a bad idea Mark! I know that may be described as being a little elitest by some, but we can't be too careful really, so yeah, I'd say that was the way to go That's the thing, do all that you can do, make the car seem as unattractive to a tea leaf as possible, physical devices (dogs? sorry, I couldn't resist, you know what I mean really!), electronic devices, nothing left on show, only leave the car parked in a well lit area and in the most public of places if at all possible, and always double check that you actually did lock the car and that you did arm alarms/imobilisers! I mean, my mum's old Morris Minor Traveller got broken into for, wait for it, a bag of mints and a stick-on digital clock! for god's sake! All sounds obvious, but I'm sure we've all forgotten to lock our car for example, left it all night and to our shock the stereo and CD collection are still there come the morning! |
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Dec 11, 2006 11:49:07 GMT
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The dog comment reminds me of a funny story..... A mate of mine was working in Scotswood and was a little concerned about his Mk2 tina still being there at 5.00 (if you've ever been to scotswood you will understand - I lived there for 4 years) so he borrowed a rather large alsatian dog, and left it in the car as a theft detterant. He gave me a knock at about six o'clock to beg a lift to get the dogs owner.... it wouldn't let him in the car either.  |
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Reynolds501
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Volvos, they're boxy, but good.
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Dec 11, 2006 11:50:54 GMT
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Alistair, I know, I was just joking! I wasn't having a go either fair point, any ideas should be serious ones if they were on a dedicated message or thread. I do agree that posts saying "My car has a immobiliser switch inside the ashtray" or whatever are a bit daft given that at some point or another most of us have had a conversation on here regarding where we live - for example alistairk recognised a shot I took of my mates crashed Volvo, named the road, then I went on to say that I lived just over the hill. That's more what I was thinking about to be honest! Street, how's the Escort? hope all is well and it's once again back to it's former self! I'm still a little staggered that someone took the effort to write a note, that was a really decent thing to do, as already said, it restores your faith in people somewhat! The dog comment reminds me of a funny story..... A mate of mine was working in Scotswood and was a little concerned about his Mk2 tina still being there at 5.00 (if you've ever been to scotswood you will understand - I lived there for 4 years) so he borrowed a rather large alsatian dog, and left it in the car as a theft detterant. He gave me a knock at about six o'clock to beg a lift to get the dogs owner.... it wouldn't let him in the car either. Heh heh, that had me chuckling a fair bit, that is some serious security ;D |
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Dec 11, 2006 12:15:15 GMT
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Glad you got it back mate, I know that empty/angry feeling when someone nicked my motorcycle from the work carpark (which was under the work's building), whilst I was working. It was found about a week later, they had busted the ignition to break the steering lock, oblivious to the fact it wouldn't go start or go anywhere under it's own power with a busted ignition barrel, at least you got it back. What infuriated me about mine was a sent an email through the staff mailing list (I worked at an ISP) and I got told off about it, like it was inappropriate to warn people that someone might nick their vehicle and that mine had been stolen.
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Dec 11, 2006 12:51:25 GMT
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Fierce dogs.... hmm.
Well I doubt my dog would be any good at seeing off thieves. Unless they get licked to death that is. Useless.
He'll bark at the wind / moon / trees / tractors, but as soon as he is presented with someone unfamiliar, he'll either run and hide under the table or go into an excited licking frenzy. Unless the thief is 'Russell', to whom the dog took a dislike the other day and bit him.
Think I'm best protected by mechanical means rather than canine companions. ;D
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Dec 11, 2006 13:46:12 GMT
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I was thinking that he was going to say he'd come back and someone had stolen the dog!
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Dec 11, 2006 13:56:47 GMT
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ive taken the dog out on occasion, purely because she barely leaves my side. its fine for me, can pull up where I'm going, leave the windows open, doors unlocks, face ont he radio, and know ill come back to find it all still there ;D  |
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Dec 11, 2006 13:57:55 GMT
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^ The tyres might not be as you left them though! ;D |
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Dec 11, 2006 14:29:38 GMT
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Woah I always thought those skate wheels were solid plastic, dog test says no!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts |
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street
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Dec 11, 2006 14:43:33 GMT
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Snapdragon- Yeah the Escorts ok cheers, I took it to my parents house because it can be locked behind some gates there, just til I secure it properly. I had a feeling that the thieves may have seen me drive it from where they left it and realised that it can indeed be started if you know what to do... so they might have another go at it while the steering lock is still knackered and the window still busted. I did origionally say that the SOCO bloke didn't take any prints- I was wrong, I didn't notice til yeaterday that he had taken a piece of the cowling away to get prints off, so hopefully something will come of it. Who knows, if they get someone for it they might really throw the book at him and send him off on a mechanics course or a pony trecking holiday or whatever they deem as retribution these days That said, the police did come round within the hour, took plenty of details and mentioned another incident where my car was found that might be linked, so i'll give them the benifit of the doubt, you never know they might just do us proud Disklok, a multitude of immobilizing switches and the best alarm I can stretch to are on the list, thanks for your reccomendations and input guys |
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Let's just hope thieves cant read or use computers then............
its not hard to add it all up (Although I realise streets crims were likely opportunist local Lowlifes.)
