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Jun 24, 2012 23:54:52 GMT
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I remember reading on here previously about the questionable longevity of magnesium wheels. I was hoping to find out some more information on this and get some guidance on the matter. I have magnesium wheels fitted to my car. I don't know how old they are but they seem in quite good condition. However, they need refurbishing and one wheel has never sealed properly on the tyre and requires inflation around once every 2 weeks. Before spending money having them refurbished I wanted to know if they are condemned and need replacing or anything unfavourable like that. These are my two most recent shots of the car and they don't show the wheels in any particular detail I'm afraid. Nor am I at home to be able to take better shots. Thank you for any and all advice. Drive It Day Elan Valley 12 by Rob'll Pics, on Flickr SAM_0688 by Rob'll Pics, on Flickr
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Magnesium wheels do have a finite life. From what I understand, most racing teams only run them for about a year, because they develop internal fatigue cracks. Those wheels are a lot lighter than street wheels though. It depends on the design of the wheel, the alloy that it's made from and what sort of abuse they get. In the case of your wheels, you would probably have to ask an expert. Are you sure that they're real magnesium?
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g40jon
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holy smeg! i know they are prone to going porous, but i've never seen anything like that! most race wheels aren't designed with road use in mind, so this is another thing to consider. Especially track wheels that are meant for smooth race tracks and not pot holed roads, they tend to be softer and easy to put out of shape. wheels meant for rally use, i would have more faith in. With your wheels, i would be inclined to inspect them yourself with the tyres off. Check for corrosion, if there is any check to see if the metal underneath has gone soft. I find proding with an old screw-driver works fine! even slight pitting on the bead will allow a tyre to go flat slowly, so a slow puncture doesn't always mean dead wheel. if they generally look solid, then they would imo be worth sending off to see if they could be refurbed. another good test is with the tyre off, hold the wheel in one hand and tap the inside of the barrel with the handle end of a screwdriver. The wheel should ring like a bell. If the wheel has major cracks in it, it will sound dead when hit, i.e. it will not resonate. This will only give a rough guide to the wheels condition though.
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I'm not sure they are Magnesium as I've seen the wheel design before and it was a normal alloy. Somewhere on the wheel will be makers details so have you identified them from that as Magnesium ? Also Magnesium wheels often have a manufactured date on them so you can see when they are "past their sell by date".
Love the Rapid though no matter what wheels fitted :-)
Paul H
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Jun 25, 2012 11:36:25 GMT
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Interesting, and scary !!, reading. Thinking about it, the only reason I 'know' they're magnesium is because that is what the person I bought them off told me. I think I'll take them off and inspect them, won't be able to do that until I'm back in the UK and have collected the spare wheels from my parent's though ... Thanks for positive comments re car
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Jun 25, 2012 14:56:26 GMT
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as said above, get them x-rayed
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Jun 25, 2012 15:26:20 GMT
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What sort of place does x-ray'ing of wheels?
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Jun 25, 2012 15:49:48 GMT
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Have you a university nearby? We've had some stuff NDT'd by a local uni at work.
I'd try to get a better idea of what your wheels are really made of first. Real magnesium wheels are pretty rare, especially old ones. In ye olden dayes, alloys were often called 'mags' despite them not being magnesium.
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Seth
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Jun 25, 2012 16:06:56 GMT
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In ye olden dayes, alloys were often called 'mags' despite them not being magnesium. See generic term 'Slot-mag'
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MrSpeedy
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Jun 25, 2012 16:59:24 GMT
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They look like the old 'Alley Cat' alloy wheels to me. Nice looking retro wheel imho.
Magnesium is a fairly 'active' metal and needs little encouragement to react with any water nearby, let alone when combined with the rock salt so frequently splattered over our roads. I'd be surprised if any proper Magnesium wheels lasted more than a couple of years in regular use on our roads, plus as mentioned above, they'll be a lot more prone to cracking/deformation than regular alloys.
A thorough stripping/blasting/wirebrushing session will soon show any dubious areas. If they are Magnesium and are in a bad way, you'll get a lot of white powdery dust (that really isn't nice to inhale). That'll be Magnesium Oxide and pretty much signs the death warrant on them
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Jun 25, 2012 18:46:33 GMT
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Well they've been on the car now for 3 years including heavy winter use. Still in good condition with only a bit of paint flaking. I'm coming to the conclusion that they're not magnesium - hopefully. I really like them, intention is to get them repainted black, with polished bare metal face and change the rear tyres for some lower profiles like the front. But before I get carried away, at the next opportunity I'll get them off and inspected and find out what they really are. Thanks for all the help.
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Jun 25, 2012 20:50:49 GMT
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Pick up the wheels? Do they weigh more than a bag of flour? Yes? Then they are not magnesium wheels
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Jun 28, 2012 18:22:06 GMT
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Shouldn't think they are magnesium as they have "bare" uncoated rims. This would be a problem with a magnesuim wheel as they will corode/deteriorate when exposed to atmosphere. Mag' wheels would be chromate diper then painted/coated all over.
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kevfromwales
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Pick up the wheels? Do they weigh more than a bag of flour? Yes? Then they are not magnesium wheels ^^this I bought a chevron mag wheel at a 'jumble a few years ago now - with the tyre on your could easily 1 handed lift it above your head, and it was like a 13x10
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Magnesium Wheelsjawathemutt
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try setting fire to them if there realy magnesim and not a alloy mix youll soon know;)
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