LowStandards
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I'm getting so bored of driving my Impreza and want to go back to an old car as my daily. I love the look of the 100e (and any of the 2 door varients) But, and its a big but, i cant be having the wheezy sidevalve lump as i drive many miles a day. Does anyone have any info or owt on fitting either a Zetec or Duratec lump? And anything else really... Oh and show me some pics  |
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WISE MAN! ;D I bought a 100E five years ago and it was great. Then I looked at it properly and it was more rusty than great. But I loved it! (My Bro now has it, and is rebuilding it with an RS200 Pinto and 5-speed). 107E Prefect is the easier base for a conversion as it has a different bulkhead, although you've then got excess doorage at the rear.. No pics ATM I'm afraid, but there's a nice Zetec-powered one in Retro Cars or Classic Ford this month (sorry, can't remember which!) Zetec and throttle bodies IIRC. It used to run a 38DGAS and modified HCS Fiesta or Escort ignition - had a chat with the owner a couple of years ago. Sounds pretty straightforward!  |
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My fleet:
Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres
A borrowed Mondeo
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LowStandards
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Club Retro Rides Member 231
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I don't mind dropping the lump in, I was thinking more about mating it to a suitable box and the proshaft, as since it will be a daily its gotta be right!
Am i right in thinking there's a modern Ford lump that mates to the type 9 box?
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Yep, with the right clutch etc a Zetec will bolt up to a Type 9. Not sure what clutch that is though, although checkig out some Locost-type sites might be a plan (someone here probably knows!)
I'll have a word with Spacekadett and get him to stick some pics of his up. I think he might have custom-made his prop to slot between the Type 9 and 105E axle....
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My fleet:
Suzuki GSX-R600Y SRAD with bald, melted tyres
A borrowed Mondeo
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Nov 21, 2006 12:22:07 GMT
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Keep the comedy vacuum windscreen wipers. They are just the ticket in these cold wet grubby winter months! ;D
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Nov 21, 2006 12:52:43 GMT
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Zetec, clutch from 1.8 CVH Sierra, certain clutch release bearing and it's a bolt together job.
Adam
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1997 TVR Chimaera
2009 Westfield Megabusa
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Nov 21, 2006 13:10:44 GMT
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The thing with a 100E is you have to throw away all the mechanical bits so all conversions will be a little "involved". If you're happy with all the feckin about to get a Zetec in fair enough but I'd make life easier andjust drop a Pinto in there. Nice simple engine, easy to work on, easy to maintain, tunable, maybe a little nose heavy in a little 100E but TBH you'll never make it handle like a scooby... The engine bay is tiny, I'd stick to fairly compact engines or you'll curse yourself when you are trying to service it later... The smaller V6s go in with minor tweaking of the bulkhead. Mine had a 3.1 Essex in it. That was lively. Fiat twin cams were always a popular (no pun intended) swap in these as they fit nice and come with a 5 spd box. rot is your enemy. The youngest ones are like 45 years old. Strut tops, sills, floors, rear spring hangers, boot lids, door bottoms, leading edge of the bonnet... Other than that the drver's door seldom locks on them, theres usually no external lock on the passenger door at all. You will need to weld in new strut tops any way to take your new struts as the 100E ones are not the same as "modern" Ford ones (Escort, Cortina, Capri) and the supply of classic stuts is about dired up. You'll want a Mk1 or Mk2 Escort front crossmember and steering rack too. Old Ford Services do a weld in kit to give you everything you need. The rear end is an enclosed drive I think? Long time since I saw a stock one. Either way the back axle and prop are also scrap metal. 105E rear is a little narrow and a Mk1/Mk2 Escort is a little wide. My prefference is for a 105E rear and use wide wheels and tyres to fill out the arches If you use the Escort axle you'll probably need FWD offset wheels on the back, if you use modern struts and the weld in kit you'll need FWD offset at the front anyway as well. This will actually aid handling though. Its possible to tuck the front wheels in and use a RWD ofset without using classic struts and all, but theres a lot of fabrication in it. I read about it in Custom Car once but I forget now. Using the English axle you have a choice of ratios. a 4.4 Anglia van diff and a direct top 4 speed will be no fun on the motorway... You can go up to about a 3.54 in factory gears and I believe there have been aftermarket CROWN & pinion sets available overthe years from time to time. they are cool as anything. I was thinking of them only the othetr night. |
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Nov 21, 2006 13:34:00 GMT
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Bit more about the axle, you can use an Anglia van axle that is 2 inches wider than the Anglia saloon axle and that is the correct width. Escort axles will make the wheels stick out as it's another 4" wider overall. The Anglia uses wider leaf springs than the 100E so you need the platforms off the 100E axle.
On the 4-door 107E Prefect model made from '59 to '63 it had an Anglia 105E engine, box and axle. It also had bigger brakes but the downside is it still had the funny 6" stud pattern so you can't use standard Ford wheels without redrilling the hubs. The bulkhead is better though and a crossflow will go in with no cutting and mount on the stock crossmember with stock engine mounts.
Be aware that the brake and clutch master cylinder are right in the way on the 100E and there's no space to reverse them like on the 105E model. This can be a real jip so if you want to run twin carbs then think hard about an engine where the induction is on the passenger side.
Rot is ironically much less of a problem than the later cars like the 105E
Escort suspension can be used at the front but the track is different on an escort so the front wheels tend to stick out a bit with the Old Ford's kit. Mk2 Cortina is the way to go on the 105E so would be a very easy swap onto a 100E. Milton are the boys to talk to but make sure you're sitting down when they tell you the price. I've also seen Capri front ends used and the camber (strut) angle is closer to the 100E than the Escort is.
There is also a non-bodge bolt-on conversion to use Fiesta discs on the 105E and there is no reason why that wouldn't be a direct swap for the 100E since the brakes are the same. Have a look over on 105Speed for that.
Vacuum wipers work fine once you put in a bigger engine. They are only useless on the smaller ones.
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Last Edit: Nov 21, 2006 13:36:14 GMT by Deleted
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Nov 21, 2006 13:41:57 GMT
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Mmmmmm some food for thought there as well. retain stock struts but get disks and a 4.25" pattern... Sounds better... I know there is some bvggery required with the Cortina Mk2 legs on the 100E but I'm blown if I can recall what it is...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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guy
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Nov 21, 2006 14:18:27 GMT
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There is a member on here with a 100e with a pinto running bike carbs?? Cant remember his name tho?
Also try OldSkoolFord.co.uk there are a few members on there with various engines in 100e's.
Guy
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Mk1 Escort slowly rusting into nothing! But safely stored in a dry garage.
Mk2 Golf, Low n' Loud
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Nov 21, 2006 16:14:18 GMT
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water rail, engine mounts, alternator kit, various CVH sierra bits like sump, alternator, starter motor. then carbs or TB's FTW
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toni
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Nov 21, 2006 17:33:26 GMT
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Check the link for some great inspiration. That Gary from Retromotorsport is a true artist. Search for his other topics in the old school restorations/projects subforum. It's worth it. Cossiepowered: www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=77595Hmm, think you have to be registered tho, so register! |
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LowStandards
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Club Retro Rides Member 231
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Would i be better buying a 105 then? i was hoping for a relitivly simple swap out! i was only gonna go for a 1.4/1.6L to start with
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Apparently, Ital discs can be made to fit the stock struts with not too much trouble. If you're doing that and keeping the stock steering, then a crossflow or pre-crossflow would make a great daily driver.
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1953 Minor (Long term project)
PT Cruiser
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