bryn
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Nov 20, 2006 23:50:27 GMT
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Alright amigos, Need to know where I can get some roll cage padding at a decent price that isn't pipe lagging in drag... Any suggestions? I can get it from America at $100 for five 2metre lengths in FIA/SFi approved flavour. But shipping is another $100 on top, and I ain't got no credit card, just Paypal - which typically my chosen supplier over there doesn't feel... Wishing to keep it simpler I'm quite happy to spend my money in this country, but between Demon Tweeks and ebay there seems to be not alot about. Lots of people list it (splendid bit of contradiction there...  ), but I thought I'd ask in case anybody knew of a suitable alternative/secret material/bargain supplier. Nice. Cheers. Bryn ;D |
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Last Edit: Nov 20, 2006 23:55:05 GMT by bryn
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bstardchild
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Alright amigos, Need to know where I can get some roll cage padding at a decent price that isn't pipe lagging in drag... Any suggestions? I can get it from America at $100 for five 2metre lengths in FIA/SFi approved flavour. But shipping is another $100 on top, and I ain't got no credit card, just Paypal - which typically my chosen supplier over there doesn't feel... Wishing to keep it simpler I'm quite happy to spend my money in this country, but between Demon Tweeks and ebay there seems to be not alot about. Lots of people list it (splendid bit of contradiction there... ), but I thought I'd ask in case anybody knew of a suitable alternative/secret material/bargain supplier. Nice. Cheers. Bryn ;D I used AC pipe lagging - so it's pipe lagging should I shut up now? |
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Tarka
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Its a coarser grain than lagging though and harder to bend etc.
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Its a coarser grain than lagging though and harder to bend etc. Dunno about that all I know is it's closed cell foam and it withstands a fair bit of impact damage and my head don't hurt any more when I drive the car |
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Definately. The amount your head bangs around when in the car - especially with a big helmet on) its necessary. In the rally car my bonce is always knocking the bar along the top of the side window. (Navigator with head in notes). This is why we changed from pipe lagging to proper stuff.
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bryn
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Its a coarser grain than lagging though and harder to bend etc. Dunno about that all I know is it's closed cell foam and it withstands a fair bit of impact damage and my head don't hurt any more when I drive the car There's obviously a difference between pipe lagging and 'proper' stuff, like offset hole, non flammable etc. But in all honesty I still think pipe lagging provides a better job than a flimsy bit of trim/headlining covering some of the sharp edges I uncovered when stripping the interior. Plus in a normal car you only have a seatbelt and folding seat, I've got a bucket and five point harness. It all comes to down to damage limitation, I'm just baulking at the padding costing over a hundred pounds when the average cage costs £4-500... But then why cut corners now? Yeegads, being responsible is curse word.  |
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I'm sure one of the cage/chassis builders in this country could sort you out of point you in the right direction - chris isaacs, andy robinson, hauser race cars, john sleath john webster etc
also places like rallynuts.com sell it
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MWF
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Any rally/race shop should sell it. I've used pipe lagging before but really it's not an area you want to be cutting corners.
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Nov 21, 2006 17:10:34 GMT
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i heard of some new stuff that was getting FIA approved recently, made from some special foam which gets harder as you progressively press into it. no idea what its called or where you could get it sorry  |
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Nov 21, 2006 17:39:08 GMT
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I used Safety Devices padding FIAspec. It is only a semi circle.  My test for roll cage padding is to put it against a solid wall and thump it hard with your fist. If you can do this and not bust you hand it is OK. I would not dare to try this with pipe lagging........ Conform is probably the foam you are thinking of. It is heat reactive, the colder it is the harder it is and when it gets warm it conforms ( !!) to your shape. It is expensive but is commonly used for people who have to sit for long periods of time (fighter pilots, disabled and elderly) So if you want some cheap........... John |
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Nov 21, 2006 17:42:09 GMT
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That reminds me, i must stick some on the mini cage before i start using it again!
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bryn
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Nov 22, 2006 12:50:22 GMT
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Thanks for the help guys, I've explored all the avenues in this country and the cheapest FIA approved I can find is £26 plus vat a length. So I'm going to sort out the American shipping issues and get it from there ($18 a length), I'll let you know how I get on. Punch a wall, good idea for a product test there John, i like that. I'll try and find some of that Conform foam too, might be able to buy it in a sheet maybe? |
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Nov 22, 2006 13:55:18 GMT
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Everyone I know buys from the states I do know if you try and get pipe lagging past an MSA scrutineer at a drag strip he'll bounce you too - it was their big thing this year |
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Nov 22, 2006 17:16:49 GMT
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Bryn,
I think the cheapest place for Conform may be the people who make cushions for the elderly or wheelchairs because it will not have the motorsport or aircraft price tag. The other use is for pedestrian safety leg forms when testing bumpers on cars.
John
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bryn
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Nov 22, 2006 19:25:33 GMT
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Haha,
Yeah, had a wander around a few foam based internet sites this afternoon. It's made by a company in France called Carpenter and they've got a Uk base, but it seems (quite rightly) expensive and doesn't seem to be available in a suitable format for me to modify. A wheelchair cushion is the best part of £70.
It would appear if you want the job done properly, then paying for it is the only way. Let's face it, if I cheat I could loose my life. At least if I do it properly I can sit down the pub and say 'good thing I paid a £100 for padding'.
Bryn
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Nov 22, 2006 20:06:06 GMT
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john are you in coventry, if so, give me a wave, i'm usually in my little red grilless mini, full cage, etc etc, are you a beardmore!!!!
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Mini 998cc grp bonnet & boot, lightend shell, 6-point cage, soon to have a turbo on the 998 engine (t2 frm a r5gt) rs turbo intercooler, hoping to get 120ish bhp?
father is building a Mini Van 1330, 45 weber, 100bhp@wheels
'RIP' 1.8 Metro GTi, 15.23 1/4mile
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Nov 22, 2006 20:07:18 GMT
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I'll keep an eye out for the lot of you ;D
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), but I thought I'd ask in case anybody knew of a suitable alternative/secret material/bargain supplier.
