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Hi guys Any idea of the value of this bad boy I have floating around? It's a Nakamichi MB-75 Head Unit with 2 Auxilliary inputs (!!), 6 disc from a single din capability which uses Japanese black arts to make it work I believe, and a further input for another din sized 6 disc changer. I know these are fairly high end 90's head units but I don't know the value. I'd like a Becker or Blaupunkt instead because it would suit my car better. Here's a pic of mine... I also have the face case and black trim surround although they are not pictured. Any advice appreciated!
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May 24, 2012 22:11:01 GMT
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Anyone?
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May 24, 2012 22:29:40 GMT
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I like that:
if you want to know what its worth put it on ebay for 99p and no reserve.
personally I'd pay £40 for it working and complete because I like it. There again you can get mp3 / ipod / usb / bluetooth units these days for peanuts brand new
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You are right, a 99p start on eBay will find its value It's actually going in my mx-5 I think as it is suitably period - I think an old school head unit with 2 aux inputs must be a rare thing, I personally don't like modern stereos in old cars so it is perfect for me! I asked about the value because I know Nakamichi head units are quite rare and some make good money on eBay
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If it was mine I don't think I'd let it go for sub £150, it was around £500 new IIRC as I was looking at them when I bought my Alpine 7998R.
You couldn't compare this to any run of the mill USB/MP3 curse word you can buy. Nacamchi is possibly one of the best sources money could buy and are still miles than over 90% or stuff available today.
(BTW I don't know if its worth £150 that's what I would put on it as a personal value like my 7998R I wouldn't let go for under £400 then I would be really hard pushed to let it go)
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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Oh and believe it or not its more likely to be around 2003/4 than 1990's this was just the look that Nacamchi followed, this look was also the deciding factor when I did buy my 7998R as I did want understated but I still wanted to see where some of my money had been spent.
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Some days you just need to take a grinder to an inanimate object, just to make your day a tiny bit better!!
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May 25, 2012 10:21:59 GMT
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It's a tricky one to value.
If you're like 'Scorted' who clearly doesn't understand what it is, then it's only got some retro novelty value and being compared to modern cheap MP3 units shows that it's not held in high regards for most people.
However, some understand what Nakamichi units are and how highly regarded they are with people who know their audio. It's probably one of the most desirable makes of audio you can get and to the right person it's worth significantly more than some cheap modern tat that plays cheap compressed music formats. In its day this would have been way beyond the reach of most car owners and probably only found in high end cars like Porsches, big Mercedes etc...
If it was mine I'd be looking for an absolute minimum of £200 for it probably more like £300. I'm not saying you'd get it, but personally, as a guess, that's nearer what I reckon it's worth to someone who knows their car audio.
They simply don't make units of this quality any more. I have some high end Alpine audio from the early 90's and wouldn't let my head unit go for anything less than £350-£400. It doesn't play MP3's but it's not about that, it's about sheer quality of sound, a quality that's not been bettered, or even equalled, since those days due to the introduction of MP3 and other compressed music formats.
It's a very cool bit of kit and I wouldn't sell yourself short with it. Hooked up to the right amps and speakers, you'd have a system that will outdo pretty much anything else for audio quality.
I was going to be fitting my Alpine set-up into my MX5 too but the car is now for sale, so I'm keeping it all for another suitable vehicle. If you sell it, you'll be hard pushed to find anything like it again without a lot of waiting and a fair bit of money. Think long and hard before selling it on....I'd love to buy it myself, but I've got way too much Alpine stuff as it is, so it would just become another ornament from a period of car audio that we'll never see the likes of again.
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May 25, 2012 15:04:27 GMT
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I understand exactly what it is, consumer technology is never a good investment... a £1000 TV from the same period no matter who made it is still worth peanuts today...
I gave him a value he could actually sell it for: I had some competition spec alpine units, a headunit, a processor, an equaliser and various other bits i wouldn't know where to start with from a car that had 10k plus spent on it... doesn't mean I'd get very much for the bits nearly ten years later
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"In engineering there is an answer to everything, It's just that we're usually too ignorant or too dim to see it." Keith Duckworth If you'd binned it into something that either didn't move, or survived intact (like I did, well, technically I landed on top of it, skillzorz...
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May 25, 2012 15:41:36 GMT
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i like that and would pay if i wanted it about £75 ,nice bit o kit
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May 25, 2012 18:04:56 GMT
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Excellent bits of kit, the MB75's were very fragile however, so I'd definately test it thoroughly.
I've had several CD35z, 40z, and 45z's, and they are top notch bits of kit.
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Cheers for the replies - MM pretty much spot on and I entirely agree!
Re the cd transport, I believe they had some teething problems with the designed and if they have been repaired they are generally survivors and shouldn't break again! Mine had the repair done in 2007 so it should be a good 'un.
I'm not going to sell it but I would consider a trade for an early Becker or Blaupunkt high end line head unit if anyone has anything to suit?
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I understand exactly what it is, consumer technology is never a good investment... a £1000 TV from the same period no matter who made it is still worth peanuts today... I gave him a value he could actually sell it for: I had some competition spec alpine units, a headunit, a processor, an equaliser and various other bits I wouldn't know where to start with from a car that had 10k plus spent on it... doesn't mean I'd get very much for the bits nearly ten years later Sorry but this is utter bo11ox! Just because most technology loses value over time, it doesn't mean all technology does. Just because you can get an MP3/CD unit brand new nowadays for £40 doesn't mean everything manufactured before it is worthless. Not in the slightest. That's like saying all cars lose value so a Ferrari 250 GTO must be worth about the same or less than a Kia Pride as a trade-in because it's older. Absolute rubbish! Saying you gave it a value it would actually sell for, I don't dispute that....a similar value of £40 on a 250 GTO would mean it sells too. By comparing a Nakamichi unit to a £40 piece of Chinese MP3 tat does tell me that you're not understanding this thing correctly. If you're so right, please find me a working Alpine 7909 for less than £600 (the last one I saw sell went for £1,072). They introduced them in 1989 so following your logic they should be worth all of about 25 pence right now. Sorry if I sound harsh but you're way off the mark with your estimation and values of units that are probably as sought after today than they were back then. If you offered me £40 for my 5980 I'd very promptly show you the door because you'd obviously be either taking the mick or not have a clue what you're looking at. The same applies to this Nakamichi unit. Funkula, as I said before, I strongly urge you not to sell it. [edit] Having read your post I see that you're not now unless you get a trade for Becker or Blaupunkt. Good man! [/edit]
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It's not comparing apples with apples but if you use Bang & Olufsen as an example for their home audio/video products, their stuff retains a ridiculously high used value. In fact, and this is quite strange, it declines by around 30-40% slowly over say a 5-10 year period and generally stays at that value forever more! The lesser known (usually flawed and/or unpopular models) and the ultra high end stuff actually gains value over time and many of the products are now selling way beyond their original retail price - As the Apine 7909 is I don't doubt! It is slightly different with the TV's simply because the technology is moving so fast but the bread and butter audio products are very stable. I know this market very well and find it fascinating. As mentioned above, the fact that these are "just old tape deck head units" makes it hard to get your head around but it is no different to for example a Rolex or 250 GTO or a classic piece of furniture (another story altogether!) Flagship/Ultra high end products are always sought after and have value regardless of what they actually are. It is hard to understand, and put across. But I know what I am trying to say (I think!) ... off to read up on the 7909 now!!
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7909 was nice and produced amazing nice natural sound but its supersessor the 7990 just bring audio to a whole new level (if a slight bit over in some places) But then it really depends what you are looking from with a head unit as spec wise JVC made a corking unit with a spec list higher than the 7998R as did some Pioneers but IMO they lacked the grand balance of the Alpine units. I still kick myself now for buying the 7998R over the 7990 as there was only £200 in it when I bought mine, guess I needed that bit more bling for my buck that the 7990 didn't offer. I still love my 7998R now but I think I'd love a 7990 more
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I love the old Alpine / Pioneer / Nakamichi units but for some reason I just prefer the Becker and Blaupunkt. I guess that's because I tend to have German cars more often than Japanese.
For me it's all about what is period correct and in keeping with the original era/origins of the cars. The Nak will be going in my MX-5 but I would prefer to have a Becker/Blau in a Porsche, BMW or Mercedes because it seems more "right"!
Not sure what I think about the ultra exotica stuff like Mcintosh, I have never seen one in the flesh.
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