bl1300
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For those who have said talking on a phone is the same as talking to a passenger no it isn't. Your passenger can see what is happening as they are in the car with you and should shut up if your in a situation that requires more concentration. For instance reversing or negotiating roundabouts. Someone on a phone does not see what is happening so will continue to distract you regardless.
If my phone rings whilst I'm driving tough luck its not getting answered. I'm sorry but anyone who thinks it is acceptable should not be driving!
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1967 DAF 44 1974 VW Beetle 1303s 1975 Triumph Spitfire MkIV 1988 VW LT45 Beavertail 1998 Volvo V70 2.5 1959 Fordson Dexta
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bortaf
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May 16, 2012 13:14:12 GMT
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I agree it is distracting BUT a driver with half a brain will realise he is driving a leathal weapon and act according li IE drop the phone and concentrate on what matters IE the driving and or simply not use the phone when concetration is needed not like 90% of plebs on the road that simply carry on chatting away whilst wandering all over the road, it's a matter of prioratys. It's not the act that I disagree with it's the sudden jumping on the band wagon of hate that the sheep do after some storey or other hits the papers and franky stupid remarks like you posted. If it's sooo bad why is it leagal to do the exact same thing with a CB ? or other 2 way radio? I'll tell you why, it's so that the police and other services can continue to use them because the powers that be realise that "some" drivers can order thier prioratys and continue to drive in a safe manor and use a hand held device to hold a conversation when the surcumstances alow it, that's why but of course you wont see them saying that in the papers cos it's boring and doesn't stir up the sheep enough. I agree with the law most people on the road can hardly pick thier nose without crashing, like I said I know people who have been driving for 20 years and frankly I wouldn't trust them to light a fag whist driving let aloan talk on the phone but then there are those that can read a map roll a fag and happily drive around the west end multi dropping, some peopel can multitask some cant and any safty minded socitity is going to have to make laws for the lowest skill level. Like I said it was not about the safety aspect but about the stupid bandwagon jumping remarks Oh and I agree it is just as destracting to hold a conversation with a passenger, it's the conversation not the act of holding a small plastic item to your ear that disracts, my mum for example turns the radio down at every roundabout she comes to, so she can concentrate, dare to talk to her and you get a very short "STFU i'm concentrating" she unlike 90% of the other plebs on the road realised there is an order to what she's doing and the prioraty is to cancentrating on controling the 1 ton leathal weapon she is driving. What next ? a campain of hate for all NON winter tyre users after Nov 1st, start calling them liabiltys on the road cos a news paper says they are ?
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Last Edit: May 16, 2012 13:17:28 GMT by bortaf
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May 16, 2012 14:23:17 GMT
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Had two mates knocked off bikes by mob-using drivers, and come close myself. None of these were able to drop the phone and instantly switch back to being in control. Glad the insurance is doing something, although possibly/probably OTT on the amounts they are demanding, because fines don't seem to deter people much.
Reckon there's something about the act of holding a phone, the lonely ol' brain cell is more engaged somehow? Does seem far less demanding to talk hands-free, same as talking to a passenger.
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May 16, 2012 14:32:07 GMT
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Oh and I agree it is just as destracting to hold a conversation with a passenger, it's the conversation not the act of holding a small plastic item to your ear that disracts, my mum for example turns the radio down at every roundabout she comes to, so she can concentrate, dare to talk to her and you get a very short "STFU i'm concentrating" she unlike 90% of the other plebs on the road realised there is an order to what she's doing and the prioraty is to cancentrating on controling the 1 ton leathal weapon she is driving. Phillips used to make an add on device that sensed the ambient noise inside a vehicle and adjusted radio etc volume accordingly. That meant you didn't have to turn it up to hear when at speed and vice versa when stationary. Great idea and surprised no longer available as I'd defintaley have one. Paul h
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speedy88
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Insurance - no texting !speedy88
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May 16, 2012 16:42:32 GMT
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To add to the pile - I was walking on a zebra crossing yesterday and was nearly knocked over by a cnut... He didn't see me because he was on his phone. Same has happened when using the cyclist crossings (when I used to be a cyclist). Infact, pretty much all my latest driving problems have been with people on the phone.
But I do agree with bortaf in a way - there are situations when you have enough concentration "power". But bortaf - please remember that a CB radio is a completely different thing to phone conversations. Talking on a CB is very much like talking to someone in the car wheras phone conversations take a lot more brain power to maintain as the other person can't see what you see.
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May 16, 2012 17:57:07 GMT
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I agree wholeheartedly with price hikes for unsafe drivers, but until I see price reductions for the safe drivers, I will still feel as the majority do, that insurance companies are greedy and extortionate.
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can't believe this hasn't been locked yet, or the amount of piffle being spouted, here's my piffle to add to the piffle pile
talking to your front passenger can be unsafe, because you are tempted to look at them briefly to see their expression, to get eye contact like you do when not driving
if you try to remember your journey to work this morning, when you weren't talking on the phone or to a passenger, they'll be huge chunks you have no memory of because you were thinking of other non driving stuff and you were just performing a well practised skill with some corner of your brain, ready to snap back to attention when something catches your eye/ears
talking on the phone using pukka handsfree gear is fine, trying to dial a no. on your parrot thing whilst sideways on a wet roundabout is obv not fine
i never had handsfree and used to do the cheeky answer in your lap "just driving, call you in 5 palaver" then i bought a car that had a parrot kit and wondered why i never sorted it out sooner, its great having an hour every night on the way home to get all the chit chat with your mam and dad, siblings, mates, or to be able to talk to someone whilst you struggle to find their house. now business use is another matter, i don't try and do business stuff because thats tugging on a different part of my brain.
practise and common sense are the factors here, i always wondered why they didn't include a smoking whilst driving and drinking /eating whilst driving part on the test, after i passed my test i was a young fool trying to drive, listen to the stereo on full blast and smoke a fag, and that was hard then, many a burnt crotch/seat until i got the hang of it, but i bet i could do that now and have a coffee and sausage roll on the go, and take a call on the handsfree
but i would never try and text, espec not on a touchscreen, you could probably have done it by touch on a nokia brick with no predictive text same as you can do the tv remote by touch, but no chance on a touchscreen
now ive had my say, lock please 8))
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I quite often see people speaking on mobile phones, especially those coming out of the local police station!
everyone seems to be so obsessed with safety nowadays, I was telling the wife about my Austin A40 having no seat belts fitted or airbags, and she claimed it was a death trap, that is until I mentioned that she was quite happy to sit on the back of my High powered motorcycle, without air bags or seatbelts ;D
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There is revolting against a bureaucratic state and then there is being blind ignorant to what goes on around you; trying to drive a car with one hand holding a phone up against your ear whilst being distracted by the conversation in hand can, in no way, under no circumstances, be safer than driving with two hands and not on the phone. Have little regard for your own safety but remember you're sharing the roads with the rest of us, and the nuns, and the kittens.
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May 17, 2012 11:28:51 GMT
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MrSpeedy
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May 17, 2012 12:04:21 GMT
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But this one isn't!
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