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It'll have some strategic bits of neoprene foam to provide all the comfort..... I suspect it will not be a long distance cruiser. I can foresee it also being very noisy and probably quite hot as well. if the seat is formed right you need surprisingly little cushioning. The bucket seats in my Elise have just one layer of neoprene , plus a double layer for lumbar support. Initially I used the factory trim for the road and the thinner neoprene for trackdays, but nowadays I don't bother with the full trim anymore, it's really comfortable and it feels great to feel as connected to the car as possible. Love the Morris build and glad to see it progress.
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It'll have some strategic bits of neoprene foam to provide all the comfort..... I suspect it will not be a long distance cruiser. I can foresee it also being very noisy and probably quite hot as well. You will be surprised, mine is mostly cage and plastic bucket race seats, only the vinyl covers with about 6mm of padding under them and a 112 Db exhaust at 3000 rpm, two and a half hours to the gathering last year was quite a nice drive.
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jonomisfit
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How do you find the cabin temperature in the Anglia?
I figure the morris is going to be warm and loud as the Engine and gearbox are right next to you with no sound deadening.
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It's actually very good. I built the floor,firewall & tunnel from 3mm ally so no resonating, I also used some flash heat reflective paint with silica balls in it - which works very well on firewall & tunnel. At the moment the tunnel is painted & exposed, with just thin carpet on the floors and some vinyl trim on the firewall. Cool in summer with windows open and cosy in winter with heater on. Noise is loud, but not too bad. Radio can be on but I only hear about half of what is playing, lol. I fitted a quieter exhaust for the BIVA test, but the noisy one has gone back on now
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jonomisfit
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No real morris progress due to cutting up the escort. I was asked about clearance for the passenger to the handbrake. pics P1020135 by jono_misfit, on Flickr There needs to be a small rest for the passengers leg so they don't lean on the handbrake when cornering. In a normal seated position the legs clear it. I'll likely make a small rest for the leg. cylinder and pivot fit in the space under the knee / thigh P1020136 by jono_misfit, on Flickr and from above, it looks tighter than it is. P1020137 by jono_misfit, on Flickr Now i've got a rough scheme I need to develop it into a final design.
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jonomisfit
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Mar 10, 2019 18:11:23 GMT
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So a little bit on the morris. removed the mockup handbrake mechanism P1020192 by jono_misfit, on Flickr had a think about how i was going to do the pivot properly. P1020193 by jono_misfit, on Flickr spent quite a considerable time on the lathe and made this P1020194 by jono_misfit, on Flickr comprising of these bits P1020195 by jono_misfit, on Flickr should give a nice movement to the handbrake. I need to make sure i can replicate the angle of the handbrake level to spindle, so took some measurements. and quickly cut out the base plate as I was runnig out of time for today. P1020197 by jono_misfit, on Flickr Looks a bit too big and solid a sheet. Will need to consider some method of reducing weight but increasing stiffness.....
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Mar 11, 2019 12:41:55 GMT
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Will need to consider some method of reducing weight but increasing stiffness..... And we all know the answer to this, don't we children?
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mk2cossie
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Mar 11, 2019 13:58:55 GMT
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Will need to consider some method of reducing weight but increasing stiffness..... And we all know the answer to this, don't we children? Out with the swaging tools!!!
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brc76
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Mar 11, 2019 14:34:40 GMT
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Everyone, quick, gather around the hydraulic press!!!
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jonomisfit
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Mar 11, 2019 18:20:41 GMT
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I can neither confirm nor deny the next update will contain freshly swaged holes.
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Mar 11, 2019 20:02:24 GMT
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I can neither confirm nor deny the next update will contain freshly swaged holes. Face the truth or are you just going around in circles
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jonomisfit
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Mar 24, 2019 21:18:51 GMT
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Operation handbrake continued Cut a length of tube to size and profiled the end P1020198 by jono_misfit, on Flickr I managed a good fit of tube to spindle. P1020199 by jono_misfit, on Flickr tigged on, i still need a lot more practice at tig welding. P1020201 by jono_misfit, on Flickr P1020202 by jono_misfit, on Flickr needs a strengthening rib to support the handbrake and put it in double shear template P1020203 by jono_misfit, on Flickr will fit like so P1020204 by jono_misfit, on Flickr P1020205 by jono_misfit, on Flickr P1020206 by jono_misfit, on Flickr cut out in steel and put a few holes in.... P1020207 by jono_misfit, on Flickr start folding P1020208 by jono_misfit, on Flickr folded some more and clamp to the bench P1020209 by jono_misfit, on Flickr P1020210 by jono_misfit, on Flickr tig tig tig P1020211 by jono_misfit, on Flickr fits on like so P1020212 by jono_misfit, on Flickr P1020213 by jono_misfit, on Flickr Cleco's are quite handy things. I've had a set for ages and never used. I shall liekely be using them more often. need a master cylinder mount P1020214 by jono_misfit, on Flickr I forgot to take photos, but marked out cut, folded, and welded. Made from 1.5mm steel to hopefully prevent flex. P1020215 by jono_misfit, on Flickr fits like so P1020216 by jono_misfit, on Flickr still a little fettling / tidyup needed. bits go on like so. P1020217 by jono_misfit, on Flickr A flat piece of steel has limited stiffness. I wonder what option i have to stiffen it up a bit more... Mark out some ideas P1020218 by jono_misfit, on Flickr lightness starting to be added P1020219 by jono_misfit, on Flickr Swage hole time, plus a few ribbing beads to put thickness the other way. P1020220 by jono_misfit, on Flickr bits will sit like so P1020221 by jono_misfit, on Flickr I ran out of time at this point. Next time will be adding some folds to the edge, and probably a few strengthening ribs underneath.
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eurogranada
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Impressive!
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mk2cossie
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Mar 25, 2019 13:28:41 GMT
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Loving the work that is going in to this Just out of interest, if the car is having a BIVA, will the hydraulic handbrake be allowed in the car? Or is it being made now whilst there is space and not bolted in for the test?
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Mar 25, 2019 14:42:37 GMT
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Loving the work that is going in to this Just out of interest, if the car is having a BIVA, will the hydraulic handbrake be allowed in the car? Or is it being made now whilst there is space and not bolted in for the test? Also in addition to the question above will the system have it's own separate circuit or will it some how be plumed into the standard braking circuit?
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jonomisfit
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Mar 25, 2019 20:29:52 GMT
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It'll be fitted for, although maybe not with for the BIVA, although nothing i've read said you cant have a hydraulic handbrake fitted, just there must be a mechanical handbrake of some description that is for use on the wheels.
My intent is to have a second mechanical based handbrake for the parking brake. The hydraulic one is just for aiding vehicle rotation when required.
Brakes will be circuit split fronts and rears straight from the pedal box (if you go back a few pages it has 2 cylinders in the pedal box), hydraulic handbrake will be in the rear circuit. Pretty normal practice for hydraulic handbrakes on rally cars etc.
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Mar 25, 2019 20:47:16 GMT
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What stops the working cylinder from forcing fluid back through the one that’s not being applied?
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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jonomisfit
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Mar 25, 2019 21:10:47 GMT
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The same thing as with a normal master cylinder not feeding back through into the feed reservoir. The intake port covers before pressure can be built on the outlet port. The foot brake puts pressure through the system including the open (assuming handbrake not pulled) handbrake master cylinder as normal. When you pull the handbrake its master cylinder isolates the flow from the foot master cylinder, before applying pressure in the fluid remaining in the rear of the circuit. Release the handbrake and footbrake, the pressure dissipates and the fluid path is open again. Brakes by jono_misfit, on Flickr
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Mar 25, 2019 22:44:03 GMT
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Did you hear that huge clang? That was the penny dropping. 😂
Your diagram cleared it up; I’d assumed two reservoirs and a T-piece, not putting the flow through the “handbrake” cylinder.
Every day’s a school day. 👍
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My worst worry about dying is my wife selling my stuff for what I told her it cost...
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Mar 26, 2019 13:42:02 GMT
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Can the hand brake (hydraulic) ADD to the pressure the foot brake is making?...I think yes? then, when released (hand brake or footbrake) the system is open where it needs to be allowing more options for rallying or redirection, ect?
also, sorry for the basic question, are there relief valves in each master cylinder when you let off the brakes so fluid can "dissipate"....
just getting up to speed on this....
awesome work
JP
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I know its spelled Norman Luxury Yacht, but its pronounced Throat Wobbler Mangrove!
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