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I know it's proberly been mentioned before but whats the situation regarding buying/using paint after January 2007 ? Will we be able to buy over the counter aerosols,paint for spray guns or is it the end and we will have to pay through the nose for a bodyshop to paint our old crusties ? Is it a case of buy now for use later ?
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Just a modern....but surrounded every day by Porsche's !
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I'm sure AK will beat my slow-ass typing , but production of celulose has stopped. round here, there is enough in stock for 2 years supply. according to my paint and body supply house not sure of the situation with coach enamel. alistairK, do you know?
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i havn't used celly for years and my paint suppliers has said nothing to me about any other paints stopping so i'm not to worried
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1. celly is still being made. Not by all manufacturers, but it is still being made. At least one manufacturer has made a commitment to keep producing it while people still need it to do period correct restorations of classic and vintage cars.
2. *any* paint made prior to 1/1/2007 can be sold up to 31/12/2007. Including 2K and other banned materials.
3. painters wishing to use celly may continue to do so after 1/1/2007 and after 1/1/2008 so long as the car is a classic car restored to stock and is a "historic project". A licence and probably an inspection of the car will be required accrding to the press, but thi sis not firm yet. However you can still buy celly under point #1 until 31/12/2007 anyway so they have a year to sort that rule out.
4. This does not affect the sale of rattle cans - yet! No mention of them in the rules.
5. Nobody has mentioned brush-on coach enamel anywhere in this. I suspect it is not affected. Spray on synthetic enamel will be banned though athough the two are near identical paints... Its the VOC while spraying from the thinners which is the issue.
6. The regulations apply to the painting of cars, bikes, vans etc. Not to industrial machinery, agricultural equipment, boats, planes, furniture.... If you can convince a supplier you are painting something other than a car you could still buy cellulose or acrylic paint off them. If they still stock it...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Yes I only just found this out in regard to all the 'banning' that was going on...
Although celly will be restricted to 'bonafide/original restorations by approved people etc, etc, blah, blah ...' it is still going to be available in 'rattle can' format
...so no probs with spraying ones 'retro ride' Matt black' or 'red oxide' ;D
Incidently for the past 10 years some cans are in 'acrylic' anyway and it tends to be 'car plan' that are still in celly.
Also what 'substance' are the larger Halfords (and somewhat expensive) rattle cans?
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acrylic IIRC.
Acrylic is better than celly. Has all the same properties as celly but is slightly more durable and colour fast.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Oh! I've always had more success with Celly rattle cans than Acrylic
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Might be that the quality of the celly is better than the quality of the acrylic.
Quality of the paint, the can, the nozzle, the p[ropellant, all play their part in the rattle can and the finish you can get from it.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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^ Yes I can see your point From my own experiance the best rattle can evAr has been these: ...thats right 'Humbrol' spray (as for models) but in car sized rattle can for doing large areas ...the paint comes out really easily and dosn't seem to clog up and the finish is super smooth. I realise the colours are very limited but it has been ideal for spraying a one off say a tool box, amunition box or 'blackout' lamp MATT GREEN on a (real) military vehicle. Also about three cans give a lovely finish in Matt BLACK for bonnet of a car.
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I've always been a fan of Plasticote. Goes on nice. Never seems to clog up and you seem to get a better coverage than you get with some of the other brands in the same size can.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Cheers for the info chaps.
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Just a modern....but surrounded every day by Porsche's !
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