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The '66 Buick won't turn over on the key.
Either I have tried 2 dud batteries one after the other or the motor is siezed*.
Which do you have your money on?
*obviously there are potentially other faults which can cause this symptom...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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jamesp
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Apr 12, 2012 12:10:47 GMT
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cars not in park ..... lol its the worst thing you can do amout of race cars ive had where i havent fully clicked into park or neautral and sat stranded out on the track like a idiot
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tigran
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In rust we trust. Amen.
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Apr 12, 2012 12:20:20 GMT
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I'm going with dud starter, likelyhood of an engine seizing just being sat are so unbelievably unrealistic.
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1964 Rover P5 i6 1987 BMW 525e - The Rusty Streak 1992 Micra K10 2001 BMW E46 316i 2002 BMW E46 330Ci 2013 BMW F31 320d 2018 BMW G31 530d
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Apr 12, 2012 14:06:22 GMT
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Have to say, last time I did this I'd left the car in drive
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Apr 12, 2012 16:22:59 GMT
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Have to say, last time I did this I'd left the car in drive I've only ever called the AA (or RAC, can't remember) once for an automatic car and their script asked me to double check that. Must happen a lot. But not to Akku. Shurely not...
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Apr 12, 2012 16:37:28 GMT
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Do you get anything at all?!? Ignition lights?
I'm going to go for an outside bet and say corroded contacts on the ignition switch. Or in drive/the car thinks it's in drive. Shift cables streched/linkage slipped/return spring has streched or fallen off.
Have you tried the old big screwdriver sparky starter motor trick?
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Remember the days when sex was safe and motorsport was dangerous. Vintage bling always attracts pussy.
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Apr 12, 2012 16:57:31 GMT
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Ignition lights and dome light dim/go out. Starter "barks" and nothing else happens. Leaving the key in the start position makes a buzzing noise from the solenoid.
Battery shows 13.5v after charging. "Rally" jumpstarter is connected.
No further diagnostics has been possible as I have The Child here today
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Last Edit: Apr 12, 2012 17:02:42 GMT by akku
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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ToolsnTrack
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Apr 12, 2012 18:00:35 GMT
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I'm throwing bat earth into the hat...
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Apr 12, 2012 18:02:31 GMT
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I'm hoping its the leads. It'll probably be Sunday before I get chance to look though
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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crazymonkey
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ummm....what was I doing again???
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Apr 12, 2012 18:19:23 GMT
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I'm throwing bad earth into the hat... yeah thats my bet. battery showing decent voltage but lights dim when trying to start Ive had similar symptoms before with a bad earth.
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whoever said dogs were man's best friend....obviously never heard of cable ties
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dw1603
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Apr 12, 2012 22:35:00 GMT
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If it is a bad earth, it will try to find an alternative path. Does the throttle or choke cable get hot whilst cranking?
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it doesn't actually crank.
I'm going to start wiggling and poking (my actual skillz at diagnostics are pretty poor) but years ago we bypassed the balast resistor to "cure" another fault and I suspect this is somehow related.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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bl1300
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What does the battery voltage drop to when the starter barks?
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Current fleet.
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a bad earth is easy enough to check though, just use a jump lead from the -ve battery terminal to the engine block (assuming its a -ve earth car)
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bortaf
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Apr 13, 2012 12:38:13 GMT
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I'm going to plump for alien probing, go get hypnotised by a clown immediatly If the lights are dimming i'd say the starter is using power and lots of it something it wouldn't do if the earth lead were off ?, seized starter (full of water) maybe (obv if the aliens havn't been snapping the rubber glove nearby lately
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Apr 13, 2012 14:22:27 GMT
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Both the starter and the wiring have previous form.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 13, 2012 14:32:37 GMT
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quickest way, is have someone holding the key on the start position, while you belt the starter body with a breaker bar !! it usually coughs at least this way!
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Apr 15, 2012 12:59:01 GMT
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its not been turning because its hydrolocked.
took the plugs out and one pot leaked about a half pint of rusty water.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Apr 15, 2012 14:25:28 GMT
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Manure......... (hoping the swesr filter doesn't find word n°4...) That sucks big time.
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Apr 15, 2012 14:42:23 GMT
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Form the symptoms it sounds to me like the 'malevolent water bull spirit'
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1974 Lancia Beta Saloon 1975 Mazda 929 Coupé 1986 Mazda 929 Wagon 1979 Mazda 929 Hardtop 1982 Fiat Argenta 2.0 iniezione elettronica 1977 Toyota Carina TA14 1989 Subaru 1800 Wagon 1982 Hyundai Pony 1200TL 2-dr 1985 Hyundai Pony 1200 GL 1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo 1992 Rover 214 SEi 5-dr 2000 Rover 45 V6 Club 1994 Peugeot 205 'Junior' Diesel 1988 Volvo 760 Turbodiesel Saloon 1992 Talbot Express Autosleeper Rambler 2003 Renault Laguna SPEARS OR REAPERS
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