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Smiler Posted a lot I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :) Posts: 2,492	PUB style CO2 Bottles Smiler @smiler
	Oct 27, 2006 15:56:58 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	As some of you are aware I am presently looking to buy a Mig welder. The model I have chosen after listening to all your comments and advice is the Clarke 160TE. For those not familiar with it it is a 150amp welder that is set up to take refillable bottles. I am picking up a secondhand CO2 bottle this weekend which I beleive is of the 'Pub' type. I am told these need a different regulator/adaptor to the proper welding bottle regulators that the machines come with. Can anyone please enlighten me as to what exactly I need and where I can get it from? Ideas of prices involved would also be appreciated. Thanks for any help, Regards, Smiler.
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PhoenixC Posted a lot Posts: 4,423	PUB style CO2 Bottles PhoenixC @phoenixc
	Oct 27, 2006 16:14:41 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	CO2 regulators are different to an argon regulator. The connection is different. Some of them you can swap the end piece but the majority these days you cant.
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slater Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 6,390 Club RR Member Number: 78	PUB style CO2 Bottles slater @slater Club Retro Rides Member 78
	Oct 27, 2006 16:15:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	The 'pub' bottles i have take that same regulator as a normal argon/co2 mix bottle would.


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PhoenixC Posted a lot Posts: 4,423	PUB style CO2 Bottles PhoenixC @phoenixc
	Oct 27, 2006 16:22:10 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Couple of ebay links for you. Single gauge type cgi.ebay.co.uk/Regulator-For-Co2-Gas-Cylinders_W0QQitemZ180044106004 Twin gauge type cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-GAUGE-CO2-GAS-REGULATOR-FOR-MIG-WELDER-NEW-FREE-P-P_W0QQitemZ200033003278 I paid £26 for my twin gauge one from the welding supplies place I use, you don't need a twin gauge but it is easier to set up if you do. When setting it up you just need enough gas to give the molten steel a shield and to stop the welds forming slag and becoming week and porous. If you are inside then being able to just hear the gas when the trigger is held on is normally enough any more makes the weld flatter and just wastes gas. If its outside it just depends how windy it is as to how much gas you need to use especially somewhere open.
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PhoenixC Posted a lot Posts: 4,423	PUB style CO2 Bottles PhoenixC @phoenixc
	Oct 27, 2006 16:25:38 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	This one has an adaptor to run both types cgi.ebay.co.uk/MIG-Gas-Regulator-2-Gauge-Industrial-argon-co2-mix_W0QQitemZ110048032460 Edited the links
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slater Club Retro Rides Member Posts: 6,390 Club RR Member Number: 78	PUB style CO2 Bottles slater @slater Club Retro Rides Member 78
	Oct 27, 2006 16:32:18 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Ahh yes attualy the one I'm thinking of uses an adaptor like that.


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Smiler Posted a lot I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :) Posts: 2,492	PUB style CO2 Bottles Smiler @smiler
	Oct 27, 2006 16:46:35 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thanks for that. Looks like I've got a little bit more to spend. I can't see that I'll really need a twin gauge regulator. I might be as lucky as you slater and find mine will screw stright on but I won't hold my breath. Thanks again for the help. Cheers, Smiler.
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Smiler Posted a lot I no longer own anything FWD! Or with less than 6 cylinders, or 2.5ltrs! :) Posts: 2,492	PUB style CO2 Bottles Smiler @smiler
	Oct 29, 2006 21:12:01 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Right, picked up the bottle today. It's got a handwhel on the top whcih I assume is just a simple open/close valve and not a regulator.
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gofasterpinch Part of things MK3 Polo Rally Project Posts: 796	PUB style CO2 Bottles gofasterpinch @gofasterpinch
	Oct 29, 2006 21:40:06 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	yeh just use to open and close the bottle when not in use.


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Autofive Posted hell of a lot Posts: 6,486	PUB style CO2 Bottles Autofive @autofive
	Oct 29, 2006 22:52:40 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	pub gas in winter can leave a brittle weld - according to a mechanic i know - you are better to mix argon too
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Mr_Bo11ox Posted hell of a lot Posts: 7,388	PUB style CO2 Bottles Mr_Bo11ox @e661301
	Oct 30, 2006 7:56:25 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Just pour in some argon and mix it up with a paint stirrer.
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autohausdolby Kinda New Posts: 1	PUB style CO2 Bottles autohausdolby @autohausdolby
	Oct 30, 2006 8:24:49 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	PMSL @ Mr_Bollox Welding with argoshield lite is 93563928478337722129348111111111111111!!!! times easier than with CO2 BTW


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generally01 Posted a lot Posts: 1,434	PUB style CO2 Bottles generally01 @generally01
	Oct 30, 2006 19:52:34 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I have a pub bottle and I got the regulator at Machine mart for about £30. Look in your yellow paper for fire extinguisher agents as I get my bottle filled by one for £7. I know its not as easy as argoshield but I don't use the welder often enough to warrant a BOC account. Dave
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Autofive Posted hell of a lot Posts: 6,486	PUB style CO2 Bottles Autofive @autofive
	Oct 30, 2006 22:29:57 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	e661301 said: Just pour in some argon and mix it up with a paint stirrer.
	Feb 26, 2012 16:24:53 GMT VND said: Someone just shot the elephant in the room. Nov 25, 2012 22:03:44 GMT PandaSelecta said: Anybody?

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