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 I got this escort from "prey's mum in Alfreton in Derbyshire just over a week ago, it's going for a full service tomorrow, nice to drive compaired to my Micra that I sold at the weekend, just one or two little bits to sort out, but all in all, very nice, MOT till my birthday as well (Nov 3rd)  Quite a bit of history - 3 pre owners 11/11/2005 GK Group Alfreton Boot Mat 34.99 12/10/2007 M.W. Auto Service Clay Cross Clean & Adjust rear brakes 23.50 28/12/2007 M.W. Auto Service Clay Cross O/S/F Spring 58.31 8/4/2008 M.W. Auto Service Clay Cross Service & Battery 172.13 2/3/2009 M.W. Auto Service Clay Cross Full Service & Disc/Pads 250.14 2/5/2009 Home Rear Springs 3/10/2009 D Brown & Son Clay Cross MOT Repairs 50.00 2/3/2010 Home Service & Cambelt 19/6/2010 ETS Tyres Alfreton 4 Nankang Tyres 119.94 22/10/2010 Home Front Springs 2/11/10 SDL Minorfern Clay Cross Front number plate 7.09 4/11/2010 D Brown & Son Clay Cross MOT Repairs / Welding 239.61 2/8/ 2011 Home Service 3/11/2011 New Cat 4/4/2012 Kwik Fit Wilmslow Full Service 149.99 13/4/2012 Wilmslow Tyres Wilmslow Drums/shoes 207.56 17/8/2012 Wilmslow Tyres Willmslow Discs & Pads 144.00 31/8/2012 Euro Car Parts,Wembley n/s/r spring 37.14 18/9/2012 Dave Bower Butley Sills fitted + n/s/r spring 220.00 30/10/2012 MOT Sydney Jackson (Ford) Macclesfield |
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Last Edit: Oct 31, 2012 11:08:15 GMT by ontheedge
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Just got back from my local Kwik Fit in Wilmslow (yes, I know some people don't like them, but I have always had very good service from them), anyway I had a Full Service @ £145, as according to the service book it's last service was on 2/3/09 on 75000 mls and it's now on 96000.
Recommendations were:
Baffels on way out in back box - £136
Rear brake shoes & drums - £131
O/S/F Disc corroded (inner) - £97 pair
Pads - £72
No history of second timing belt change (one at 38414 mls in 2004)
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Just had a quick look on eBay and your list of parts comes to something like this: Baffels on way out in back box - £136 ( £33.32) Rear brake shoes & drums - £131 ( Drums £65.10, Shoes £12.19) O/S/F Disc corroded (inner) - £97 pair ( £18.48) Pads - £72 ( £9.00) Price quoted to you: £436.00 Price delivered for all parts from eBay: £138.09 That leaves you £297.91 to either pay a garage to fit them (which I bet it won't cost you anywhere near that much) or buy a Haynes manual and some nice tools and do it yourself. You get to keep the tools and learn more about your car. None of the jobs are at all difficult so would be easily acheived....and it's so much more rewarding. If you shop around you might even get some of the parts cheaper.  |
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EmDee
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^ what a guy ;D
welcome to the forum by the way, nice to see an unloved car getting some attention.
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Just had a quick look on eBay and your list of parts comes to something like this: Baffels on way out in back box - £136 ( £33.32) Rear brake shoes & drums - £131 ( Drums £65.10, Shoes £12.19) O/S/F Disc corroded (inner) - £97 pair ( £18.48) Pads - £72 ( £9.00) Price quoted to you: £436.00 Price delivered for all parts from eBay: £138.09 That leaves you £297.91 to either pay a garage to fit them (which I bet it won't cost you anywhere near that much) or buy a Haynes manual and some nice tools and do it yourself. You get to keep the tools and learn more about your car. None of the jobs are at all difficult so would be easily acheived....and it's so much more rewarding. If you shop around you might even get some of the parts cheaper. ...and you can spend the remainder on a set of wheels and some shorter springs  |
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^^^ what they said! brakes and a backbox should be a fairly easy intro to getting to know your car, shouldn't take long either. You could even fit the shorter springs while the wheels are off!  £72 for base model escort front pads - I'm impressed at how ballsy that is... |
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Kwik Fit pads at £72 does seem over the top, but thats fitted and you never have to buy new pads again as they are fitted again free for the cars life |
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Yeah but how many sets of pads are you realistically expecting to use up on this car? A set of pads will last for years. £72 seems ridiculous to me, £12 and half an hour's messing about is more like it.
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Bare in mind if you've sold the disc and pads at the same time a large proportion of the labour time -which isn't amazing anyway- is already knocked off with the basics like jacking the car up, removing the wheel already having to be done. From Kwik-Fits POV its a safe bet really, as Jim Bowen would say "You've got the mponey for the service, thats yours, you're taking it home. Now would you like to go for the really big money and quote for a few more jobs you can get D'Sean the YTS lad to do?"  Add to that the long life of parts like that, the buying power of somewhere like Kwik-Fit, the chances that you'd never see a 14 year-old Escort come back anyway and the reality that lots of folks are like myself -ie chumps- and will lose the receipt and out of a mixture of bitter pride and simple wrong-headedness would rather die than go back to Kwik-Fit and have an awkward conversation to redeem something they are entitled too without the paperwork. The numbers don't lie and its a good thing they're on to. But (and this is the more important thing) like xBo11ox, Mystery Machine et al have said you can do this job. £5-600 for work on a car like this could easily be a death-sentence and as someone who is only beginning to learn how to really look after a car myself I know this is do-able for you. Its hard to explain the sense of achievement you will get from doing this but I'm not too much of a 'real man' to admit it is PROFOUND and will give you a new strut to your swagger when you're having cheese and nibbles parties. If you can keep your wedge
When all about are doing theirs and say 'come too'
If you can trust yourself when Kwik-Fit doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can read and not be confused by Haynes,
Or being jerked about - don't be a jerk,
Or see the end through grease and dirt and pain
And yet enjoy the job and learn by the work
Yours is the Earth and everything thats in it,
And -which is more- you'll be a Man my son!With a apologies to Kipling. Honestly I hope you take this job on, I really want to see you have a crack don't be put off or afraid and when you do the job I'll be proud to buy you a virtual drink! |
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Last Edit: Apr 5, 2012 11:44:50 GMT by shedvan
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Just had a quick look on eBay and your list of parts comes to something like this: Baffels on way out in back box - £136 ( £33.32) Rear brake shoes & drums - £131 ( Drums £65.10, Shoes £12.19) O/S/F Disc corroded (inner) - £97 pair ( £18.48) Pads - £72 ( £9.00) Price quoted to you: £436.00 Price delivered for all parts from eBay: £138.09 That leaves you £297.91 to either pay a garage to fit them (which I bet it won't cost you anywhere near that much) or buy a Haynes manual and some nice tools and do it yourself. You get to keep the tools and learn more about your car. None of the jobs are at all difficult so would be easily acheived....and it's so much more rewarding. If you shop around you might even get some of the parts cheaper. Agree with this, except rear "drum" brakes, a job I will never do again! Any project car I get needs to have rear discs, or be converted to them. |
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prey
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glad you got the car back ok etc - can't comment on the brakes/exhaust as I didn't take if for mot it last year but it has been serviced more recently than that mileage - but by me hence no receipts/stamps in book! last one was late last year from memory.
edit - just checked for you and it had oil change + air/oil/fuel filters august last year, sorry i don't know the mileage when it was done though.
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Last Edit: Apr 5, 2012 17:08:39 GMT by prey
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Hi guys, Thanks for all the reply's, I must be honest, I am not a novice when it comes to cars, I have had over 30 + a couple of motor bikes. I have also been a Parts Manager for a British Leyland main dealer (Kenning Motor Group), also a Workshop Manager for a Car Hire Firm. But one thing I like to do with any new (to me) car is get it checked over and give it a service by someone else and for the last few years I have used Kwik Fit as the service (in my local one) is second to none. This time, the parts do seem to have gone up, so I will shop around for the recomended work to be done. I don't realy have much time to do work on cars (in winter anyway) due to getting up at 5.15am to take my youngest son to his farm for 6.00am, then back home for 45 min. before opening the school at 7.20am, then I only have a couple of hours free in the afternoon before going back to work for 2 hours - after that I am too knackerd  Eldest son is into cars as well, 306 GTI ! |
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Last Edit: Apr 8, 2012 11:57:31 GMT by ontheedge
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Thanks Al, I thought the oil looked clean, do you happen to know if the cam belt has ever been change apart from the 36,000miler in the service book ? glad you got the car back ok etc - can't comment on the brakes/exhaust as I didn't take if for mot it last year but it has been serviced more recently than that mileage - but by me hence no receipts/stamps in book! last one was late last year from memory. edit - just checked for you and it had oil change + air/oil/fuel filters august last year, sorry I don't know the mileage when it was done though. |
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Buy the parts, throw them all in the boot and book yourself for a trip to Area 52. I can assure you the bits will get fitted better than a KwikFit, you can help and see that it's done right, you don't get ripped off and you'll get to spend a day with some great guys from here. There would be a charge to cover unit expenses and a contribution to the tool kitty, but it certainly will be cheaper than any garage would ever charge, you get to save a lot of money and trust me, you'll have a great time. If distance is a problem, that particular weekend people are coming from a good 2hrs furhter north than you...plus the amount you'll be saving will more than cover the fuel cost. And then some |
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prey
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i've found out a bit more for you, my mum kept a note of the work in her diary but for some reason noted the date, not the mileage - must be a woman thing! - so you'll have to average out the mileage from the mots!:
feb 09 - service and replaced front brakes
may 09 - back box and rear springs
march 10 - back brakes, service and cambelt (so it has been done more recently than 36k!)
oct 10 - front springs
nov 10 - service, brake pipes, bit of welding for mot
august 11 - service
nov 11 - new cat and front pipe for mot
hopefully that will help. i have no idea why this wasn't on a piece of paper with the history but hey who i am to argue!
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Aug 17, 2012 13:51:07 GMT
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Treated her to new discs and pads today as she has been good.
She will need a patch welding on the n/s/f sill for her Mot in Nov. though - I might see how much it would cost for a new sill to be fitted.
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Aug 17, 2012 14:42:25 GMT
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I remember enquiring about the VTR you had for sale last year, nice car that was! This too seems in good nick and well looked after really. Understand why you take it to somewhere you like the service from. Personally always try and do it myself now to save a bit of money but before I was made redundant and could afford it would usually take it to my local reputable indie for things a bit tricky (exhaust jobies ect) who charged reasonable rates!
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Aug 17, 2012 17:50:43 GMT
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I hate to go over the same ground, but for me, tackling the jobs yourself is where the satisfaction comes from. Personally, I feel rather emasculated if I have to take a car for professional attention. Why work to earn money to put it in someone else's pocket if you have the ability yourself. Hats off to Bruce for his genuine offer of the work being done at Area 52. Anyway back to the car : I had '94 Escort 1.6 as a daily about 10 years ago, and it was a dependable old thing. |
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Aug 28, 2012 14:36:22 GMT
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Next job before it's MOT in November is, sills repairing or two new sills as it needs at least two patches. And while it was on the ramp the guy noticed the n/s/r coil spring had broken as well. |
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Aug 29, 2012 15:50:37 GMT
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Two sills fitted + fitting new coil spring - £200 |
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