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Mar 28, 2012 18:17:45 GMT
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Heard a story, not sure how true, that the DVLA were inspecting a lot of cars which come up for first registration on import now.
With this lovely weather I looked at the Olds and wondered if I could scrape it through an MOT or not with some effort.
Problem is that if the DVLA inspect it they may question its MOT. Not because its going for a hooky one but because they aren't trained testers and the thing LOOKS like a car which couldn't possibly pass an MOT due to excessive cosmetic damage, rust, torn to shreds soft top etc. (one of the reasons I want to run it "as is" for the summer!)
I don't want to risk bringing any heat down on my MOT place.
Thoughts?
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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speedy88
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Mar 28, 2012 18:22:55 GMT
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It's all on their heads, if they don't think it's worth the risk they won't pass it, simple as that. It would be their mistake if they pushed it through.
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bortaf
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Mar 28, 2012 18:52:38 GMT
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If it's an VIC check (which is what the DVLA do ) they check nowt but the chassis number and IME couldn't give a fig about condition cos the MOT is VOSAs area nothing to so with DVLA ?
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R.I.P photobucket
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Mar 28, 2012 19:04:34 GMT
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DVLA have always inspected anything i've registered, just a chassis/ engine number check, there job isn't to inspect roadworthy ness or anything else just to make sure its not a ringer.
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Mar 28, 2012 19:20:38 GMT
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Its generally just a VIN check. I took a car to be checked last year that was MOTd and then partially dismantled for restroration. The car had no glass, and the engine was just sat in for mock up with no wiring, hoses or belts. They opened the door, checked the VIN against the paperwork, and sent us on our way. Reg docs arrived a few days later
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Fake patina sucks!
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Mar 28, 2012 19:37:00 GMT
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Could you take it to a 'no win, no fee' type place? There's a couple popped up around me (north notts) in the last few years. Tough call though, I can understand you not wanting to cause a friendly business any trouble, but they're more likely to 'encourage' the car to pass.
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I've got Rovers.
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Mar 28, 2012 20:07:08 GMT
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havent been asked to take subaru anywhere,as long as ive got the docs from Oz and the shipping docs i can get my reg at local office so they tell me.
Does it depend where its from?
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1984 Subaru GLF Hatch 1983 Skoda 120LE Super estelle 1977 Subaru DL Wagon 1978 Datsun 120Y Coupe 1995 Skoda favorit estate
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Mar 28, 2012 22:29:49 GMT
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havent been asked to take subaru anywhere,as long as ive got the docs from Oz and the shipping docs I can get my reg at local office so they tell me. Does it depend where its from? It largely depends how old it is - I've imported 20+ VW's and the only ones they wanted to physically see were the pre-'73 (and therefore tax exempt) ones, the bloke was quite open that the reason was because people try and pass off post '73 imported cars as earlier models to get them registered as 'historic'
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Currently driving a '68 Karmann Ghia as my daily. Don't ask about previous cars - there have been way too many and I stopped counting at 160!
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So a 1967 Oldsmobile is likely to get a visit...
I'll speak to the MOT guys and I'll do stuff like legal indicator conversions and the like before taking it up.
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Doubt you'll get a visit, they normally insist you trailer the car to them
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Fake patina sucks!
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Mar 29, 2012 10:33:51 GMT
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A mate had that and just said "yeah, I don't have a trailer" so they visited him at home. Mind you, he's a very insistent sort of person. We'll see.
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Last Edit: Mar 29, 2012 10:34:26 GMT by akku
1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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i had to trailer my ute 30 miles so the DVLA could inspect it, they would not inspect it at my home, you will have to have a letter from the manufacturer stating how old the car is and verfiying it, customs c386/389 paperwork.
my ute was 1974, its actually stamped on the vin plate, but that's not good enough for the DVLA, they have "approved clubs" that can write verification letters to provide proof of age, and thats what i did.
basically the DVLA just need to check the chassis/vin plate and that completes their check, right pita, i would of thought the chassis #/vin plate would have been checked on importation
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I never had my '62 Bluebird inspected when I registered it last year and the supporting paperwork wasn't exactly ideal. The car was still wearing Australian plates but I never sent them one bit of Aussie paperwork as none of it had the year of manufacture on. Instead i send them a few scraps of paperwork that came with it from Norway even though it never got properly registered there. They never questioned it and just sent me a V5 and new reg.
I would always registered a car if possible before spending much money on restoring it and I think it would be reasonably for the DVLA to expect the same. besides which, as has been pointed out, roadworthyness is VOSA territory. Staff at a VRO aren't trained for that sort of thing, just checking vin tags! Best thing to do it speak to the VRO and tell them that you plan to get the car on the road with the minimum amount of work initially as you'd like to get it registered first.
The paperwork i submitted for my registration was at the suggestion of the guy at the VRO. he looked at it all and I explained the situation and he said to just send a few bits and not the Aussies rego doc etc. They were pretty helpful to be honest.
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1962 Datsun Bluebird Estate - 1971 Datsun 510 SSS - 1976 Datsun 710 SSS - 1981 Dodge van - 1985 Nissan Cherry Europe GTi - 1988 Nissan Prairie - 1990 Hyundai Pony Pickup - 1992 Mazda MX5
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I take it then this is not the same as the VIC check you get done if required after an accident? As of course you don't need an Mot to get one of those and if booked in you can drive it there devoid of tax or Mot,just like if your booked in for an Mot. You would be required to insure it though.
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Mar 31, 2012 10:25:07 GMT
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Everyone I know who has recently imported a pre 72 car has had to have it inspected. I had my Chevy inspected at Borehamwood DVLA the week before xmas just gone. PM me if you want more details.
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Mar 31, 2012 15:05:29 GMT
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Good question - I "believe" you can drive to an MOT with no plates (or with the old yank plates on) so I guess I could drive it up the DVLA office without plates? My local VRO is quite local (until they close it down)
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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Mar 31, 2012 16:36:30 GMT
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No. On the letter I received it said all vehicles must be either trailered there or driven on trade plates as it is an offence to drive an unregistered car on the road.
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Mar 31, 2012 17:10:01 GMT
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You tend to find now the insurance company will give you a very small window to drive the car unregistered, and as said above the DiVvyLA now insist they are trailered for inspection, however i do belive it is legal to drive it unregistered to a pre booked MOT.
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Fake patina sucks!
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Ok, fair enough, just trying to avoid trailering costs as well...
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1941 Wolseley Not Rod - 1956 Humber Hawk - 1957 Daimler Conquest - 1966 Buick LeSabre - 1968 Plymouth Sport Fury - 1968 Ford Galaxie - 1969 Ford Country Squire - 1969 Mercury Marquis - 1970 Morris Minor - 1970 Buick Skylark - 1970 Ford Galaxie - 1971 Ford Galaxie - 1976 Continental Mark IV - 1976 Ford Capri - 1994 Ford Fiesta
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madmog
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No. On the letter I received it said all vehicles must be either trailered there or driven on trade plates as it is an offence to drive an unregistered car on the road. But what if it's technically still registered in the US? I mean if someone brought their car over for a holiday from the states they presumably wouldn't need to re-plate it with UK plates? So if you buy in the states and get it registered there in your name does that allow you to drive in the UK for a while?
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