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Oct 19, 2006 20:03:04 GMT
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the folks i work with come out with many pearls of wisdom raguarding old cars i figured it was time to document some. story one. talking about what the very first thing we would buy if we won the lottery. conversation went a bit like this: me "i would get a ford mustang for my dad, its his favourite car ever" friend 1 "new one or old one" me "old one of course" friend 1 "why would you buy a rusty piece of sh*t when you can afford the new one?" me "becuase the new one will inevitably be replaced by something "cooler" and newer, but a 69 (i guessed the year) mustang will always be a 69 mustang" the conversation went on a bit about how old cars are curse word and we got on to what car he would buy Friend 1 "i would get a nissan 350z, i love them cars" me "see that car would be outdated in a year or two. then where does that leave you? at least in an old car it will always be cool" friend 1 "yeah but when that happens ill just buy the new cool car" i left it there for the time being, safe in the knowledge that my hypothetical winnings would probably last a lot longer than his. the conversation then picked up at break time when slack jawed goon friend (friend 2) joined in. me (foolishly in hindsight) "whats the better car (friend 2), the new mustang or the old one?" friend 2 "the new one every time, old cars are wibblepoo. name me any old car and i would take the modern equivelent over it every time" the next 15 minutes were spent slating every classic car under the sun. mainly on how he would take a generic, chunky plastic coated modern car over a "slow, rusty, ugly" classic. Story 2 this revolves around slack jawed friend 2 friend 1 (to me) "why does it say "IC" on the back of your hand?" me "to remind me to buy some iron cross stickers for the car when i get home" friend 2 "why would you want some nazi stickers?" me "for the car. its a VW thing" the next 15 minutes of our evening break and the whole of the next mornings break were spent slagging off my choice, my car and VWs in general with memorable quotes such as "i hope your car gets bricked" what made the whole thing even more amusing is that another (well informed) friend pointed out that the german military and the nazis were 2 completely seperate groups and that the iron cross had nothing to do with the nazis. he should know after all, he is part german and knows the history well. to this my friend replied "they're all the same to me, bunch of nazis. they're all the same and anyone who has the iron cross on their car should have it bricked" i find it amazing that he get so wound up over the iron cross, especially when he has been heard to say things like "bring back the holocoust" one good thing did come of this though, i learnt that the beetle was at least co-designed by hitler and i learnt the whole history of VW as a result of later research here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen
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Oct 19, 2006 20:18:32 GMT
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Set fire to them; they're obviously too stupid to be benificial to the gene pool.
*n
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Top grammar tips! Bought = purchased. Brought = relocated Lose = misplace/opposite of win. Loose = your mum
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Oct 19, 2006 20:22:37 GMT
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Set fire to them; they're obviously too stupid to be benificial to the gene pool. *n ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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The lurker formerly known as Cappuccinocruiser.. or wedgedout..
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Oct 19, 2006 20:24:03 GMT
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get new friends, your current ones are rubbish haha
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2 storiesgoaferboy
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Oct 19, 2006 20:26:23 GMT
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i really wish i could set fire to them. id probably lose my job though. that said i probably will for putting iron crosses in the golf when the factory is run by germans and staffed by the polish.
i forgot to mention that friend 2 was looking at buying an early 90s french car. a renault or a peugeot if i remember right. one of their major arguements against old cars was the lack of creature comforts like abs, power steering and central heating. also reliability. HE WAS LOOKING AT VERY EARLY 90S FRENCH CARS!!!! surely someone else sees the hypocrisy in that?!
another arguement against old cars is "women don't want old cars, they want air conditioning and comfort". i don't remember who said it on here but i referenced the quote about the lowrider mercedes (at least i think it was a merc) "have you had sex in this car? id have sex with you in this car"
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Last Edit: Oct 19, 2006 20:27:18 GMT by goaferboy
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Oct 19, 2006 21:12:20 GMT
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air con and comfort? sounds like many an 80s barge to me!
lol *n
however, be sure, be utterly sure, to DEEEEE-STROY any car they may get at the TL GP for uttre i told you so win points (and to prove retros rule)
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2 storiesgoaferboy
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Oct 19, 2006 21:17:19 GMT
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nah. i wont be winning any races at the lights in any of my cars. ill just refuse to give them lifts anywhere. ill just drive myself if need be and let them take their own cars. well...car...one cant drive yet. and the one that can doesnt own his own car, he uses his mrs' corsa
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Last Edit: Oct 19, 2006 21:17:53 GMT by goaferboy
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Seth
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Oct 19, 2006 21:42:51 GMT
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If they are that determined to not get it I fear there is no hope....
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Follow your dreams or you might as well be a vegetable.
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bryn
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Oct 19, 2006 23:58:47 GMT
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I'd take their misunderstanding as a compliment to my individuality, do you really want to be accepted by such people?
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Volvo, Buggy, Discovery and an old tractor.
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I'd take their misunderstanding as a compliment to my individuality, do you really want to be accepted by stupid people? tonycc style quote i agree goaferboy, they sound like pricks. i wouldnt waste my time, just take your mp3 player, and listen your favorite track loudly near them much better conversation imo ;D
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tigran
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Good point bryn, I am pretty happy that the fashion obsessed shallows at uni don't 'get' retros.
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2 storiesgoaferboy
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yeah it makes me smile. friend ones arguements mainly revolved around women loving modern cars. so far in my 35 year old deathtrap iv had more than a few young ladies giving me the "woohoo!" and one taking my photo as i drive by. same cant be said for a 350z
friend 2s arguements mainly centres on "they're sh*t, they're sh*t, I'm a narrow minded prick, they're sh*t" not many people like him really
and as for the nazi debate. once confronted by my other knowledgeable friend, he just threw a childish tantrum and threw all germans in one group (ie nazis). he didnt do it quietly either. i thought id say nothing and let everyone absorb exactly what he said. then spent the rest of the daythinking if this is how narked he gets at me mentioning I'm putting the iron cross on the golf, imagine how narked he'll be when they're on. cant wait
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2006 1:22:30 GMT by goaferboy
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another argument against old cars is & quote;"women don't want old cars, they want air conditioning and comfort "] Interesting! I am female, most of my friends are female and guess what? Yep, we would rather have an old interesting car over a modern one. Most iconic cars are old, take the orginal mini and the beetle, E type Jag, VW camper. If it hadn't have needed so much work on it, several of my friends would have bought our Rapier of us when we had it.
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Smiler
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Have you pointed out to them just how cheaply you can build a fast classic car compared to financing a modern shopping trolley? Or the possible insurance benefits? (assuming there still are some).
My 2.9ltr 24 valve Cosworth V6 powered '82 Cortina has nearly 200bhp, is rear wheel drive and owes me a total of about £1000 including purchase price of the car. Also, when parked in the city centre carpark amongst moderns, it's sharp suited lines look incredibly fresh amongst the jelly moulds (colour does help here) and stands out more than any barry boy chariot. It also gets the thumbs up as oposed to the w@nker sign.
Oh, and if you look at any german world war 2 vehicles (inluding aircraft) none of them had the traditional iron cross on them. They had a straighter plain cross on them and the swastika (Nazi party sign). I suppose it would be a bit like tony blair ordering our troops to invade somewhere undeserving. It would be his orders and the armed forces have to do as he orders. Having said that, I don't think the germans military at the time were opposed to it considering all the concentrated brain washing the Nazi's had been doing for the previous decade!
That's my tuppence worth anyway. ;D
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2006 6:27:43 GMT by Smiler
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Oct 20, 2006 11:21:28 GMT
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These 'conversations' are always annoying but make me smile! Thing is new cars are ok. I really like the 350z and would love one - at some point in the list. Having one now though i'd feel like a load of other jocks that drive em (not every owner i realise). I'd probably mod it my way and KEEP it, unless i got bored, certainly wouldnt chop it in just cos theres a new model! but people do. Do it your way and keep it real, these people sound like dreamers!
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it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts
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Oct 20, 2006 13:29:52 GMT
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Funny the iron cross cropped up. I was going to Maltese cross the Anglia, red baron style but the sad truth is too many prople either don't get it or mistakenly get the wrong idea and round here I would almst certainly come back to the car one day and find all the glass smashed out. Tell your friends they argue like girls. My girlfriend uses the same argument against old cars therefore they must be either girls or homosexuals* *No offence meant to girls or homoxials, you are allowed to like old cars as much as I am. Giggles, I really need to meet you and your friends one day
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2 storiesgoaferboy
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Oct 20, 2006 14:42:13 GMT
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These 'conversations' are always annoying but make me smile! Thing is new cars are ok. I really like the 350z and would love one - at some point in the list. Having one now though i'd feel like a load of other jocks that drive em (not every owner i realise). I'd probably mod it my way and KEEP it, unless i got bored, certainly wouldnt chop it in just cos theres a new model! but people do. Do it your way and keep it real, these people sound like dreamers! yeah i think I'm in the same boat. i like most cars really modern and old. just when people slate old cars i turn into a "modern cars are curse word" person
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phatphord
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Oct 20, 2006 14:51:51 GMT
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another arguement against old cars is "women don't want old cars, they want air conditioning and comfort". i don't remember who said it on here but i referenced the quote about the lowrider mercedes (at least i think it was a merc) "have you had sex in this car? id have sex with you in this car" lolzarama...for reference here is the offending old car... although at the time it was actually scotchbrited back and had filler primer in places
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2 storiesgoaferboy
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Oct 20, 2006 14:56:11 GMT
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another arguement against old cars is "women don't want old cars, they want air conditioning and comfort". i don't remember who said it on here but i referenced the quote about the lowrider mercedes (at least i think it was a merc) "have you had sex in this car? id have sex with you in this car" lolzarama...for reference here is the offending old car... although at the time it was actually scotchbrited back and had filler primer in places nice. that quote actually did shut my friend up for a bit! plus its one that will always stick in my mind
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Oct 21, 2006 11:29:14 GMT
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I had a similar conversation with a mate last year. I pointed out that he was prepared to lose 50% of the cost of his second ever biggest purchase (his new car), and that i'd be pleased to offer him 65% of the purchase price of the house he'd been in 5 years. So I'd be paying over the odds. He said they aren't the same, but when I asked why he couldn't say anything ... Later I asked him if he'd prefer to buy a brand new house or an older one and he said that new ones are so badly put together and have no character, that he'd stay with his 1920/30s built places thank you.... And he still didn't see the hypocrisy
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