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I get there in the end! (Sierra content)

BenzBoy Probably posted too much Posts: 17,940 Club RR Member Number: 7	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)BenzBoy @benzboy Club Retro Rides Member 7
	Oct 19, 2006 14:30:19 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	^ Ha, me dad's had those wheel trims. Can't remember if they were the three- or tw-vent version though. It is bizarre that they had such similar designs running at the same time! I think the poverty-grille option was dropped after the first year wasn't it? Uber-rare!
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reanimation Probably posted too much Probably? Definately! Posts: 12,694	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)reanimation @reanimation
	Oct 19, 2006 14:30:56 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Well spotted Darren! would never of noticed that!!! no idea! as for the 3 doors, The XR4 must of been first on the drawing pad as its meant to be a snide illusion copy of the Porsche 928 i heard, hence the blacking between front window and quarter light. (that trick seems to be rehashed on these GT's too) guess they wanted to save glass panels and metal on povo models, still doesnt explain why they used povo shel on top of range Cossie (apart from weight) oh i give up!!!! ;D BenzBoy on the rear of the grill its kind of a matt but smooth dark grey the material its made from i guess, just like oldskool black grills, Just need paint stripper that wont melt it to see what happened on the front, certainly looks painted!
	Last Edit: Oct 19, 2006 14:41:20 GMT by reanimation Aug 11, 2009 22:14:38 GMT MK2VR6 said: it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts

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	Oct 19, 2006 17:21:35 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I havent seen a base sierra for eons. Makes me realise why people were so against them when they first came out, espesialy with no side mouldings they really do look like jelly moulds.


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MWF Posted a lot Posts: 2,945	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)MWF @mwf
	Oct 20, 2006 8:12:54 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	reanimation said: as for the 3 doors, The XR4 must of been first on the drawing pad as its meant to be a snide illusion copy of the Porsche 928 i heard Wasn't the XR4 styled by the same guy who did the 928? I swear I heard that somewhere.
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reanimation Probably posted too much Probably? Definately! Posts: 12,694	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)reanimation @reanimation
	Oct 20, 2006 8:33:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	/\ thats a better explaination... Dunno as yet, and I'll be a scary anorak if i do find out! Wikkidpedia In another departure from tradition, the Sierra was, at first, only available as a 3-door, which itself existed in two versions, with two pillars (XR4) and only one pillar (later 3-door hatchbacks), a 5-door hatchback and a 5-door estate; no saloon was available. Due to the fact that the Ford Cortina only came in saloon and estate bodystyles, along with the Ford Escort Mk III and the Ford Granada Mk II. Ford had completely turned a saloon and estate lineup into a hatchback and estate lineup. The company then addressed this issue by launching the Ford Orion in 1983, a car to fill the gap vacated between the late Cortina and the new Sierra. Ford found that customers were more attached to the idea of a saloon than they had thought, and this was then again addressed in 1987 by launching a saloon version of the Sierra. In the UK, this model was called the Ford Sierra Sapphire.
	Aug 11, 2009 22:14:38 GMT MK2VR6 said: it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts

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BenzBoy Probably posted too much Posts: 17,940 Club RR Member Number: 7	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)BenzBoy @benzboy Club Retro Rides Member 7
	Oct 20, 2006 11:04:59 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Right, this is grounded on nothing but my memory, but I think Wikipedia is talking b0llocks. I'm almost sure the 5 door was launched the same time as the 3 door. The 3 door was dropped quite soon IIRC. And wasn't the XR4 launched a few years after '82?
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reanimation Probably posted too much Probably? Definately! Posts: 12,694	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)reanimation @reanimation
	Oct 20, 2006 11:12:14 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Yeah i think the way its written is a bit wonky! they (5 and povo 3 door) came out at the same time i'm sure, From memory the xr4 was out in 84 or summat but i don't know if they had the XR design locked away and 5 doors were derived from it, or whether the designer, thought right I'll make this jelly mould sporty just like the Porker 928!
	Aug 11, 2009 22:14:38 GMT MK2VR6 said: it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts

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BenzBoy Probably posted too much Posts: 17,940 Club RR Member Number: 7	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)BenzBoy @benzboy Club Retro Rides Member 7
	Oct 20, 2006 11:22:27 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Also, I'm pretty sure the designer of the Sierra didn't do the Porsche 928. The Sierra designer's name was something like Uwe Bahnsen (sp?! I have no idea... delving deep into childhood memory here...). Possibly there was a different designer working on the XR4. I tried Googling but I got nothing. I thought the 928 was designed by Giugiaro, but Googling this has turned up nada too, so perhaps I'm wrong. Someone please correct me if I'm talking rubbish
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reanimation Probably posted too much Probably? Definately! Posts: 12,694	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)reanimation @reanimation
	Oct 20, 2006 11:29:09 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Can't help prefering the XR4 shape at the mo, wouldn't the cossie of looked better in an XR4 shell? i'm wondering (are we off subject yet!?).
	Aug 11, 2009 22:14:38 GMT MK2VR6 said: it doesn't matter if it's a Morris Marina or a Toyota Celica - it's what you do with it that counts

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BenzBoy Probably posted too much Posts: 17,940 Club RR Member Number: 7	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)BenzBoy @benzboy Club Retro Rides Member 7
	Oct 20, 2006 11:36:47 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	reanimation said: Yeah i think the way its written is a bit wonky! I just re-read it... yep, it's me being thick ;D A Cossie built on the XR4 shell would have been cool! Maybe they chose the standard 3-door shell because of homologation rules or something like that? Or maybe it was a marketing decision aimed at boosting the standard shape's image... who knows what goes on in these corporate boardrooms!? ;D
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MWF Posted a lot Posts: 2,945	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)MWF @mwf
	Oct 20, 2006 12:18:42 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	I'm not sure why the Cosworth used the base model 3dr shell but many say the XR4i shell is more rigid due to the extra pillars so maybe the Cosworth could have looked better and been a little better too. The Sierra was based on the Probe 3 concept car I think and that was a 5-door.
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BenzBoy Probably posted too much Posts: 17,940 Club RR Member Number: 7	I get there in the end! (Sierra content)BenzBoy @benzboy Club Retro Rides Member 7
	Oct 20, 2006 14:15:23 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	OK, I just found this site which lists loads of cars and their credited designers... pretty interesting for those into the design side of things. Anyhoo, amazingly years of abuse haven't destroyed the vital braincells, and it was indeed Uwe Bahnsen that designed the Ford Sierra. The Porsche 928 was designed by Wolfgang Mobius. Man, I feel like such a geek.... Clicky!
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