Barker
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Feb 28, 2012 21:36:25 GMT
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Anyone used these before? For those that don't know they come with blots that cover the original ones with a hexagonal shape in which the spacer fits over, then they have extra thread on the end for your wheels and bolts to go on to. For those that have used them i have some questions... 1. Do they screw all the way down your original studs? 2a. How well do they tend to torque up as i imagine they're not going to meet required torque when the hexagonal parts line up 2b. Do they throw wheel alignment out? 3. Are they any good? Thinking of getting them in 32mm then ill be barely legal in terms of tread inside the arch. (if ive worked it out properly) Cheers  |
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bdtd
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Feb 28, 2012 21:42:54 GMT
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They#re absolutely f**king horrible. I bought a set of 32mm for a Vauxhall Brava Crew Cab I used to own, 2 of the four spacers sheared off and the wheels actually did fall off.
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Feb 28, 2012 22:09:03 GMT
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Going by the description they sound similer to the old cosmic (?) spacers. If they are, avoid.
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Barker
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Feb 28, 2012 22:13:21 GMT
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Wow wasn't expecting that!
Shame cause they were looking like the best option for spacing
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Feb 28, 2012 22:35:55 GMT
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bmcnut - they are identical: Cosmic:  Grayston:  I'm vaguely surprised that these are still available new - I can't really see how they can possibly be a safe solution. I do know that the RAC MotorSports Association has banned the use of any spacer a) wider than 25mm or b) with studs that are more than one peice. Personally I'd probably be going for something like this, which bolts to the hub and has the wheel bolted to it.  They are expensive though. Fitting longer studs to the hubs and using something like this would also be a good choice: 25mm spacer at Burton Power |
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Last Edit: Feb 28, 2012 22:36:37 GMT by jrevillug
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Feb 28, 2012 22:44:30 GMT
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avoid.
as had been said. proper, bolt on, hubcentric type spacers are the best way. thou longer studs with thinner spacers are ok too.
save up and get something decent.
thou i do wonder how good some off the hub centric bolt on ones are, whether some of the cheap Chinese ones use poor quality alloy?
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Dez
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Grayston Spacers?Dez
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Feb 28, 2012 22:51:16 GMT
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 =  +  that is all you need to know. |
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Last Edit: Feb 28, 2012 22:52:14 GMT by Dez
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Feb 28, 2012 23:00:16 GMT
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Please don't DO IT they were curse word in the 70's and dammed dangerous they crack and break up BEEN THERE HAD THE TEE SHIRT from experience
Dave
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Feb 28, 2012 23:32:52 GMT
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Do not mess about with bad spacers, do it right. I have replaced all my cav ones with long motorsport grade studs and used 19mm spacers. Being that my cav has the disc mounted behind the hub then this isn't as extreme as it sounds (more like a 10mm spacer and a brake disc in conventional car terms)
Also I did this to bring my wheels to approx the right offset. This avoids undue stress on wheel bearings where possible.
Remember that the wheels are the only bits that touch the ground all the time!
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skinnylew
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I used to run a set of 3mm Grayston spacers to get strut clearance for 17"s on my Mk3 5dr Fiesta
The quality of casting was sooooo shoddy but it was non load bearing and not doing anything other than spacing so didn't matter too much. Wouldn't trust those at all. Not one bit.
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Barker
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Right guess these are out of the question then!
Reason i asked is cause ive been advised not to try get my studs out to replace them with longer ones. However some have said it's fairly easy, whats the best way to do this? I want 25-30mm spacers
Cheers
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Studs should come out easy on most cars, pressed in ones need the nut putting on the wrong way round and hitting with a hammer, screwed in ones may need cutting off and drilling down the middle, either way its MUCH better than using those things.
I have lost a couple of wheels on older cars just using the stock studs, after 20 years or so of being over torqued and stretched they often could use replacing anyway.
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From this:  Assisted by one of these:  With a little of that:  To this:  Barker, I stuck a thread up in the K11 Guides section over on the MSC that has a bit more detail. |
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If you want 25-30mm, you'd probably be best off with the spacers jrevillug mentioned - ones that bolt on to the hub, and have their own bolt holes to attach the wheels. This way you don't need to mess around finding some studs that are 30mm longer and  about fitting them, and IMO they are a bit more secure. Those Grayston things are an absolute disgrace - It'd be a decent idea to try and twist someones arm to get Grayston to stop making them? Is there anyone more qualified than me who could articulate exactly how awful they are? Nowadays, It only takes one wheel to fall off causing a nasty accident and the wrong person finding out to get ALL WHEEL SPACERS BANNED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. Which would be a bad thing. |
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Last Edit: Feb 29, 2012 9:02:09 GMT by cobblers
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Barker
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Feb 29, 2012 10:17:57 GMT
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Barker, I stuck a thread up in the K11 Guides section over on the MSC that has a bit more detail. Not a paid member unfortunately mate. And regarding the hubcentric ones I'm bot sure i feel confident/safe cutting original studs, what if it goes wrong and i cant get tr studs out? Quite a lot of the bolts on bits and bobs are rusty and seized |
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stealthstylz
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Feb 29, 2012 11:33:19 GMT
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Cutting studs is easy just wind a nut on first, cut with a hacksaw, file the end down a bit so its got an angled leading edge the take the nut off.
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Barker
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Feb 29, 2012 14:21:10 GMT
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Also the cheapest 30mm 4x100 ones on ebay are 110 posted
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Feb 29, 2012 14:27:58 GMT
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Email Gary Thomas - gar.thoms@hotmail.co.uk
He made my custom adapters, but he should be competitive on spacers and will do them to exactly the size you need. He knows his stuff.
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Feb 29, 2012 18:32:59 GMT
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= that is all you need to know. True that! I'm actualy shocked to the core that these are/were still available because they sure as sh1t shouldnt be. If it wernt bad enough that cosmic sold them without thinking it was a bad idea, Grayston jumped on it too!! |
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Barker
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Feb 29, 2012 20:03:26 GMT
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Email Gary Thomas - gar.thoms@hotmail.co.uk He made my custom adapters, but he should be competitive on spacers and will do them to exactly the size you need. He knows his stuff. Will do when my wifi or phone email decides to work -_- Cheers |
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