Stu
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Oct 11, 2006 15:09:35 GMT
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Hi All, Just after a bit of advice on behalf of my Dad. He's looking to improve the performance of his bay window camper, mainly hill climbing ability really. The engine is a standard 1600cc aircooled twin port in good order and he's looking for advice regarding a carb (twin carb?) that would pep it up a bit. He's not after 1/4 mile drag racing action, engine swaps, re-bores, turbo's, NOS or anything like that, just something to improve it a little in terms of acceleration. As it has a full length lifting roof, full camping interior, bike rack etc etc it weighs a lot so it's never going to be a speed demon with a 1600 in it but presumably there are better carbs available than the standard setup? He doesn't mind sacrificing a little economy in pursuit of power as it currently gets around 30mpg on a long run once warmed up - best we've had out of one of these things!  Any ideas? Cheers Stu |
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Mike D
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Carb choice - VW air-cooled?Mike D
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Oct 11, 2006 15:15:45 GMT
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Get a manifold for a 32/36 progressive weber, and buy a 28/30 dftm weber off an '86 - 90 ford escort / orion / fiesta from a scrappy. I paid a tenner for my carb and £25 for the manifold second hand. You'll need to file the bolt holes on the carb a smidge to make it fit, and plumb in a cable for the manual choke, but they're a fantastic carb, jetted spot on for the 1600 aircooled. I've run one on my wizard for 3 1/2 years with no problems whatsoever, its loads better on fuel than the stocker too. Make sure you still have a vac advance dizzy rather than a crappy bosch 009, as the carb is vac. secondary choke Mike  |
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Oct 11, 2006 15:54:37 GMT
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I've got a set of 36 IDF webers on my 1600, got them off an Alfa 33 i think. Sound good, and actually IMPROVED fuel consumption ( unless i nailed it ! )
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Oct 11, 2006 15:58:33 GMT
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I've got just what he needs  Solex PII's from a 1960's Porsche 912 , 40mm and not to be confused with Kadron 40's, these are twin chokes!!!! Basicly, the Solex version of the weber IDF Off a 1584ish cc engine, so should work fine, with beetle filter, fanimold and linkage (included) |
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Oct 11, 2006 16:07:10 GMT
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i know a lot of people have probs with the progressive carb
i would look for a set of twin 36's, preferably DRLA Dells.
(these are usually the ones off an alfa, but need to be modified slightly to work on an a/c VW)
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48 IDAs! Go on, you know it makes sense ;D I'd vote (seriously this time) for a pair of ex-alfa 36 IDFs, properly set up, or a pair of Kadrons if you can find a good set cheaply |
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Oct 12, 2006 11:54:57 GMT
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This is an interesting thread as I was in the same boat (until my engine gave up about 6 months ago!) and have been considering improving the fueling when it's back together again. I have a Bosch 009 dizzy and have to say I'm not overly impressed with it.
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Oct 12, 2006 13:19:27 GMT
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PII's anyone?, as used by the Porsche Austria bugs?
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Oct 12, 2006 17:17:45 GMT
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Id suggest either 34 icts or K-dud 40s as they both have electric chokes and being a twin carb set up will be more fuel efficient than a 32/36.
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Stu
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Oct 13, 2006 15:47:35 GMT
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Thanks for all the info, much appreciated. I will pass it on and report back with any more questions |
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Oct 14, 2006 10:55:21 GMT
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over 100 different suggestions! Bet you know exactly what to do now Stu!!!!
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Stu
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Oct 14, 2006 13:39:15 GMT
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over 100 different suggestions! Bet you know exactly what to do now Stu!!!! Clearly there is no definitive answer! The outcome may well depend on what bits and bobs my Dad and/or his pals have lying around from previous cars. By the way, anyone got any pics of their alternative carb installs on aircooled dubs? |
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Oct 14, 2006 18:36:08 GMT
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40 idf's on my old 1700 type 4.    ;D |
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Stu
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Oct 16, 2006 11:11:39 GMT
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Ooh nice, Tony that type 4 looks ace! |
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Oct 16, 2006 13:28:04 GMT
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Think my brother wants these PII's, so that means your next best bet is a set of dellortos 36mm ones are ideal, IF you can find a set  |
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Oct 16, 2006 13:50:47 GMT
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I had 2 sets in my workshop last week - neither were mine though |
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Oct 16, 2006 14:44:28 GMT
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How much does a set of 36's and manifolds/linkage go for these days !?
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Oct 16, 2006 14:57:39 GMT
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£300 ish for new linkage and fanimolds and second hand carbs last time I looked |
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Oct 16, 2006 15:54:36 GMT
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£300 ish for new linkage and fanimolds and second hand carbs last time I looked Makes you realise how cheap my 40mm "ex porsche jetted for a 1600 air-cooled flat four twin choke non progressive" Solex's were at a mere £200 |
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Stu
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Oct 20, 2006 19:47:07 GMT
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Last Edit: Oct 20, 2006 19:48:47 GMT by Stu
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