tom13
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Jan 19, 2012 14:47:31 GMT
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Hi Guys,
After the help I received yesterday regarding wheel nuts for my ATS classics (thanks again), I thought I would just trial fit them on.
curse word! the axle for the Micra is 59.1 and the inside of the classics are 56.9 maybe 57.
Now the inside edge of the wheel has a taper to it. So I'm thinking they may still work as, although they don't slide all the way on, surely this taper will centralise them? There is still a far amount of the wheel bolt poking through as well.
Will this be ok?
Cheers
Tom
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speedy88
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Jan 19, 2012 14:59:35 GMT
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Hmm don't know about that but machining wheels costs next to nothing. You could get the wheels lathed out to the correct size. If you're anywhere near Bristol, there's someone on here who can do it
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Jan 19, 2012 15:01:35 GMT
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Get them turned out a couple of mm, or I did it myself with a flappy wheel/drill and some files.
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Jan 19, 2012 15:05:52 GMT
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if the offset is good just get the centre bore turned out a bit.
I would certainly not use them as is!
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Jan 19, 2012 15:12:29 GMT
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Definitely don't put them on as they are - they won't pull up to the hub face and they'll work loose and drop off in pretty short order. As people have said, getting the centers bored out isn't usually that expensive, maybe £40-60 a set. You need to take about 1mm off all the way round, which if you are handy is achievable with a flap wheel: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50mm-ROTARY-FLAP-WHEEL-ALUMINUM-OXIDE-80-GRIT-/270369601010?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item3ef348b5f2#ht_1538wt_1163But it'll probably take you 15 minutes a wheel, and there is a lot of opportunity to end up wonky Are you sure there aren't spigot rings in the alloys that you could remove? most aftermarket wheels have the centre bore at about 72mm, then use spigot rings to take up any gap.
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markbognor
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Jan 19, 2012 15:13:26 GMT
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Whats the offset and width, you can go right down to et5 without any issues and even -7 is do able without too much bother.
Asking because a spacer will push the wheel out past the spigot and avoid the interferance that you are seeing.
There was another Micra on 7x13 classics, and that definately looked like it could do with the wheels pushing out a little once it was on 165/55s (though you might need the clearance if you have anything wider).
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tom13
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Jan 19, 2012 23:46:33 GMT
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Thanks guys, I'm liking Marks idea. I don't really want to bore them out in case I fudge them. I have a set of wheel spacers, so I think I will use them. Does it matter that the wheel is only sitting on the bolts and not the axle?
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Don't do it!!!
It's not the bolts that hold the wheel on (strange I know) but it's the friction between the mounting face and the hub, all the bolts do is create the friction. If there's a gap between the wheel and hub then they'll twist, wobble and fall off!
There was a story on here a while ago about a fairly famous yank show/drag car that had sleeve bolts and the sleeves were a fraction too long, the bolts were fully tight against the sleeve with no visible play or wobble from the wheels, apparently they looked and felt fine, the problem was only noticed when a rear wheel fell off and they measured everything up! Iirc the sleeves were less than 1mm too long.
Get the centres opened up! It won't cost much and you'll know that it's done properly!
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80mojo
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Personally I'd go straight to the pro's with this. Flap wheel is a bad idea IMHO cos without accurate measuring you won't get them even all the way round and they'll end up out of balance.
For the cost of them doing it against the time and risk of doing it yourself it just ain't worth it.
And it definitely ain't worth trying to get them on the car as they are now. If you loose a wheel and the old bill rock up and find out why, you could find yourself in a lot of bother.
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tom13
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Jan 20, 2012 10:42:13 GMT
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Cheers fellas. Looks like I may be opening them up or swapping them.
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Jan 20, 2012 13:46:47 GMT
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I had some weller steels opened out to fit on my Skoda.
A local engineering firm did it for me and only charged me £20. They were absolutely bob-on too! Fitted perfectly snug and tight.
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