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Not really sure of all the details, as this is my sister's car - it's a silver 1997 P-reg Discovery 2.5 TDi Automatic, just under 110K on the clock (they've had it for about 6 years I think), typically beaten up looking on the outside. They're in Edinburgh and I'm not, so I can't get too much detail on it as yet. (I think it's a 200 TDi. The auto box works). Edit: Looking at the 200TDi/300TDi differences, I THINK it's more likely to be a 300TDi. No-one's confirmed it, I've asked the question, but I'm not familiar with Landies post-Series stuff, so assumed 200/300 was a difference like intercoolers or something. Rather looks like the 200TDi was replaced by the 300TDi before this one was made, so it's probably a 300TDi in that case. The engine capacity is 2495cc Edit 2: The chassis number isn't helping - one site says 300TDi is Engine Type 6, Td5 Type 8 - this Disco has engine type 7, which one VIN checker shows as: SALLJGM 73VA SAL Manufacturer code: Land Rover LJ Model: Discovery, 200 Series (1989-1994) or 300 Series (1994-1998) G Wheel base: 100 inch M Body type: 4-door station wagon (LWB) 7 Engine type: 2.5 litre Td5 diesel, basic 3 Steering and transmission: Right-hand drive (RHD), 3-, 4-, 5-, or 6-speed automatic V Model year: 1997 A Assembly location: Solihull, UK I am sure it isn't a Td5. It's too old. Still looks like the engine values make it worth having for bits, though the 200TDi sounds like it's more popular with transplants. Central Locking and Alarm works, as I joked about stealing the locks for my Metro. Anyway. It's failed on rust, surprisingly. It's already a patchwork car. Front suspension mounting points Rear shock absorber detached Body corrosion near mounting points (no more detail visible and I've not seen it, being 300 miles away) - I am guessing front sills or rear inner arches, as they've been patched already. Can't remember if it has a towbar. They've been offered what I think is a fairly low scrap amount. The engine, gearbox etc all worked fine, they were down here for Christmas in it (600 mile round trip) without incident, though did complain that the car's ride has been a bit off for a while. Can''t think why  They don't have space for it to be broken up, but I'd like to know that they're either getting a fair value of scrap for it, or that if it's only going to get X, then the person paying X is the one who would otherwise have paid X+Y for say, the engine and box, before the shell was weighed in properly for X. If you see what I mean. PM me for details. Car is drivable, in theory, though the MOT expires tomorrow (well, it's failed one, so I thought that meant it was no longer road legal until it passed one). |
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Last Edit: Jan 12, 2012 11:03:22 GMT by Deleted
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Dez
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where is it and how much is it? id be interested as an engine donor.
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It's in Edinburgh (sorry, I thought I'd put that there) - so I am guessing Essex is a bit far. How much is in question - basically, they've had an offer for scrap, which I think is laughable - looking on eBay the engines seem to be about £200 up, the gearboxes anything up to £500 (I expect that seller will have it for a while), and then I think the metal will still be worth a few quid.
Now, I don't think it's worth loads of money - so don't assume that from those prices - but I do think that either someone needing the bits and being sensible would be better than the offer they've had from the scrappy and would still get the bits free (or even turn a profit) if they had the time and space to break it.
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Probably worth about £250 on the bridge in weight.
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Dez
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yeah, its a long way to come for something i don't 100% need. i think youre right on pricing though, its deffo worth more than £200, even boshing it on ebay for 350 BIN as a engine donor will see it sold pretty quick i recon.
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That was my thought, too. I shall suggest that to them. I remember when I needed an axle for my Jeep, it was the best part of £100 for something usable, I'd have been pretty pleased to find a rotten-but-good-mechanically one for the cost of two axles.
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Probably worth about £250 on the bridge in weight. Yeah, and I'd have thought that was about right if it wasn't able to move under its own power, had been rattling/clonking/smoking/slipping - but there's a good engine in it and good automatic gearbox (for TDi, which seems less common/more valuable than a V8 one which appears to be worthless). It'll probably get weighed in anyway, but I've made the recommendation to shove it on eBay. Meanwhile if anyone around Edinburgh needs a Disco for spares (they won't be breaking it themselves), PM me! |
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I have emailed a friend about this,will let you know.
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I did a 200tdi conversion on a defender for a customer just the other side of christmas, cheapest way into a 200tdi was to buy a complete wreck of a Disco with a good engine cheapest I could find anywhere with a decent engine was £500 and it was a wreck it had been sitting in a field for 2 years and a tree had fallen on it, but after breaking and scrapping the engine cost £200...
Food for thought...
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The Internet, like all tools, if used improperly, can make a complete bo**cks of even the simplest jobs...
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Well, it certainly ties into what I felt about the scrap offer they'd had. I wonder if that was from the MOT-failing garage. I can't remember what condition the doors and other panels are in, beyond having some damage on the nearside front corner. The tailgate was opening/closing correctly, which was always a problem on Discos we got traded in!
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Last Edit: Jan 10, 2012 8:49:24 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 10, 2012 12:34:16 GMT
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if it goes over the weigh bridge it is only worth the weight of the metal, doesnt matter what condition any part of is in. Best way is ebay 99p start no reserve and a decent written advert should see £500.
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Jan 10, 2012 14:36:26 GMT
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If you're a scrappy/breaker, I don't think you take a driving car with parts worth £500 to the weighbridge without first trying to flog those bits - at least, I'd consider it a bit nuts if you did!
If it ends up on eBay I'll pop the relevant info on the cars for sale bit - at the moment, I think they're waiting for me to pass details over from here. And I personally think it should be "at least £350", with the caveats of "they're going to need it gone and eBay is a PITA sometimes". If I had it down here, I'd be aiming for £500, but I have space to store it and tools to strip bits off.
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Jan 10, 2012 20:24:50 GMT
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So is there a price for this yet?
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Jan 10, 2012 22:00:41 GMT
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The thread had pretty much got to the point of "at least £350", but ultimately up to them and relying on people PMing me so I can pass on details - they're not RR members.
I've had a PM, so have passed on those details, and in the meantime learned that it's had an alternator (recon, I think), battery and front tyres in the past year or so, the boot does open but 'with the key' - so I am not sure if that means the central locking doesn't operate the boot or there's some other thing - and that the passenger side rear door and wing have a scrap in addition to the passenger side front wing being bashed.
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Jan 11, 2012 22:14:07 GMT
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Yeah the price is really clear Maybe you should move it to the cars for sale section,and at £350 my mates out. |
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Jan 12, 2012 10:19:54 GMT
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Must admit, I thought the discussion seemed fairly obvious.
"Here is a thing. People might want it. It's not mine, it belongs to another member of my family, but I think they have been offered an amount of money which is either too little, or low enough that someone other than the weighbridge might benefit from the useful bits. Send me a Private Message if you're interested and want more details, or to pass on to the people that actually have the car and can thus, make a decision on how much money they're willing to accept. I believe the car is more apt as parts, than a car, as it's rotten - but it's all the parts, together, someone with a Discovery or wanting to do an engine transplant might need".
Helpful posts follow which give me, with little idea of values, an idea of what it might be worth. At any point during this period, you could have PMd your mate's details for me to pass on to Ailsa & Colin, who could then decide if what your mate thought it was worth, was worth accepting.
Meanwhile, what seems like a fair value for it is ascertained and an offer for that is received and passed on (with advice to take it, as whilst eBay might yield more, it's a PITA). What has happened since, I don't yet know, but your mate being out is irrelevant.
If I had a price when I started, it'd have been there. If I had the car myself, I'd have been advertising it as parts and taking small bits off.
It's not a car which I'd consider worth putting back on the road - other people may disagree, of course - but is a source of an engine and gearbox, axles, etc, which can be seen in working order rather than badly listed on eBay with a pile of leaky hoses and no idea how long it's been out of the car, or how it's been stored - with the intention that getting the whole thing would probably be cheaper than said secondhand engines etc. - maybe considerably so, given than once the required bit is removed, there's stuff to weigh in too.
Sorry for your mate's chance to buy it that you didn't grasp the progress of the thread and pass that on to him.
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Last Edit: Jan 12, 2012 10:23:36 GMT by Deleted
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Jan 12, 2012 18:54:58 GMT
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Right,So its not yours,you don't what model it is and there have been different prices banded about and it's in the wrong section ,nae bother.
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Jan 12, 2012 20:45:49 GMT
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its deffo a 300tdi for a start. p plate is the facelift disco 1 300 tdi (200's were from '89-'94.... 300's '94-'98.)
the boot central locking actuator has packed up..... so it basically unlocks/locks but when you pull on the handle. it locks itself. meaning you have to put the key in the boot lock and hold the key in the unlock position while you pull the handle.
i know this weve got one and mine is the same! its a very minor inconveinience and not worth spending £70 on a new actuator.
if the engines good with history/recent cambelt (110k is low mileage) then its worth upwards £300 out of the car.
axles £75-100 for the rear complete. 100-150 for the front (if the brakes are good and the swivels arnt knackard and leaking).
auto box id say £300-350 to get rid of it without it sitting about.
id get it on ebay if your wanting to shift it all. why is it a PITA shifting a car. get some decnt pics not taken by a retard with a 1999 camera phone. write a decent advert.
to weed out the idiots put in the advert in bold letters that "this auction is for people with atleast 25 positive feedbacks. if not message you for your contact number for them to ring you. otherwise bids will be removed. non paying bidders will be reported to ebay etc etc etc."
mines a late 97 r plate btw.
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Jan 12, 2012 22:20:14 GMT
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Murran: The brakes were done a couple of MOTs ago, but I expect that was just discs & pads, so not particularly relevant. I just remember hearing about a £600 MOT!
But you've pretty much confirmed what the rest of the thread and eBay poking suggested - my sister & her boyfriend are not remotely car people, in a city-centre apartment, so breaking it's not an option and I thought (correctly, I think, despite Fiat Daft's attitude to the contrary) that offering the car here might save them the bother of eBay & fees, and maybe save someone some cash.
As it is, all I intended to do was get them a fairer price than the scrap offer they'd had whilst someone else got the running gear again, for a fairer price, and I think that's been accomplished - someone's hopefully getting a bargain set of bits if they've the space and time to break it and use or sell them on.
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Jan 15, 2012 20:02:47 GMT
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It would appear that cfmania didn't show to collect the car today, so it is still available. I've asked for more details in terms of what has been done in terms of servicing and so forth, and pictures.
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