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chasesdragons Part of things Posts: 54	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle chasesdragons @chasesdragons
	Dec 18, 2011 21:52:02 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Hi all, I want to rebody an 1960s-1970 chassis with an even older body from a "normal" car. How do I set about keeping things legal? I might have access to two or three pre 70's Land Rover chassis, for example, with shot bodies but weldable chassis. BUT - the body; Would I have to own V5 papers just for a body off a 1930s-1960s car in order to install it and register the vehicle properly? Or can I just buy a body with receipt, off a breaker? I don't want a Q plate. The chassis, running gear and all will be as the original vehicle. The body will be from a non-monococque car. I might install a different engine to be more useable. reference: webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicle/DG_10014246 on DVLA Points system for vehicles. Can this be done without losing the Land Rover's Historic vehicle status? I hope this makes sense. Have any of you done something similar in the last 5 years and survived the DVLA? I have done this the opposite way - Making a 100" Land Rover Lightweight by installing an extended body onto a 1990 reg Discovery chassis. It was easy as pie (registering), it is now registered as a 1990 Disco. But the Govt did not stand to lose any road funds....if you know what I mean.....am I over complicating it? does the same rules apply here? Many thanks - AGAIN!


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Dez Club Retro Rides Member And I won't sit down. And I won't shut up. And most of all I will not grow up. Posts: 11,726 Club RR Member Number: 34 Member is Online	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle Dez @dez Club Retro Rides Member 34
	Dec 18, 2011 21:59:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	you don't need any paperwork for the body. you don't even need to worry about it til its done, built, and MOTed really. rather than sending back the V5 with the body style changed(you can do this though), when you first get it tested, get them to ammend the body style and add a note that its been rebodied with a non-original bodyshell which has changed the appearance of the vehicle. DVLA will then be in touch and ask you to present for a VIC check. youll pass this(providing you have a unmodified chassis + 3 other oints on the points system) then the vehicle will have to have its own name to reflect its not a production vehicle- you get to choose this providing its not something that already exists. for example there was a guy who i assume was called doug on RnS who homebuilt a 30s style coupe body onto an existing chassis and called it a 'dougster coupe' and thats about it really.
	Last Edit: Dec 18, 2011 22:02:03 GMT by Dez 1928 Y-block powered ford model A sedan All my other Junk

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chasesdragons Part of things Posts: 54	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle chasesdragons @chasesdragons
	Dec 19, 2011 20:04:47 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Comprehensive reply - Thank You Dez. That seems bloody simple compared to the curse word I had to go through with my previous rebody. Serves to ask the right questions, I guess!!


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kapri Posted a lot [][] Posts: 1,562	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle kapri @aceadvice
	Dec 19, 2011 21:50:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	If only there was somewhere people could go to get these answers eh ? www.the-ace.org.uk/rebodying-a-clarification.html?searched=rebody&highlight=ajaxSearch_highlight+ajaxSearch_highlight1 Body must be modded to suit chassis not the other way round , inspection by LO ( at moment) renamed and away you go. Reg number and chassis number details retained. Pre /post '73 body has no bearing on it as it is the chassis that carries the identity . A common failing when doing this is that the LO asks for a receipt for the 'new' body, believing that the body has to be new. This is NOT the case and we hold a confirmation letter from DVLA policy to this effect over at ACE if you encounter problems.


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Rubicon Part of things Posts: 304	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle Rubicon @rubicon
	Dec 19, 2011 22:13:03 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	read this man www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/IVA_Information_Guide.pdf Section 3.1 states: In all cases, IVA (whether Basic or Normal) is only required for passenger cars and light goods vehicles less than 10 years old, which require first licensing and registration in the United Kingdom. Read more: retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pfsw&thread=118728&page=1#1479126#ixzz1h7DT0ZbD
	don't belive the hype!! www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/IVA_Information_Guide.pdf Section 3.1 states: In all cases, IVA (whether Basic or Normal) is only required for passenger cars and light goods vehicles less than 10 years old, which require first licensing and registration in the United Kingdom.

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chasesdragons Part of things Posts: 54	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle chasesdragons @chasesdragons
	Dec 19, 2011 23:04:21 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Thank you again! I love you guys, really! Off looking for a Volvo PV831 or similar body now >


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jrevillug Posted a lot Posts: 3,520	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle jrevillug @jrevillug
	Dec 19, 2011 23:12:08 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Dec 19, 2011 22:13:03 GMT Rubicon said: read this man www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/IVA_Information_Guide.pdf Section 3.1 states: In all cases, IVA (whether Basic or Normal) is only required for passenger cars and light goods vehicles less than 10 years old, which require first licensing and registration in the United Kingdom. Yes, indeed it does. However, it's not the nice, easy get-out clause that you might think. The reason is that once you chop about with the structure of the car, or go below 8 points, the car loses it's identity. To go back on the road, it must the registered. Because the original identity has been lost, it is treated as a first registration. As such, IVA applies to vehicles that don't pass a VIC. End of. EDIT: have a read of this. It's my explanation of the reasoning behind the VIC/IVA system. It covers why it's done, what it applies to, and roughly how it works. It's a bit long, but some of the comments following it - from those that have been involved in the Type Approval legislation since the 70s - suggest that it covers all those bases. I hope you find it useful. EDIT 2: Having re-read my post it rables a bit and a couple of points are re-iterated. I might try a re-write at some point. The basic precept still stands though.
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kapri Posted a lot [][] Posts: 1,562	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle kapri @aceadvice
	Dec 20, 2011 8:43:40 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	Dec 19, 2011 22:13:03 GMT Rubicon said: read this man www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transport_files/IVA_Information_Guide.pdf Section 3.1 states: In all cases, IVA (whether Basic or Normal) is only required for passenger cars and light goods vehicles less than 10 years old, which require first licensing and registration in the United Kingdom. Read more: retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pfsw&thread=118728&page=1#1479126#ixzz1h7DT0ZbD As JRE points out above once you drop below 8 points then the vehicle is considered NEW and the above DOES apply. The referred to post is still one of the best explanations of the whys and wherefores I've seen
	Last Edit: Dec 20, 2011 8:46:09 GMT by kapri

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chasesdragons Part of things Posts: 54	Help; DVLA - registering a rebodied vehicle chasesdragons @chasesdragons
	Dec 27, 2011 21:14:16 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top
	These links carry the seminal ideas that protect us. Any chance the mods could compile them and sticky the up? Thanks agai. Much enlightened.


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