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Dec 11, 2011 13:46:20 GMT
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Bit of an odd one but guessing that the classic car people if any will know if anyone does !
I'm trying to source some brake and axle parts for a classic Harvey Frost car transporter but to be honest don't even know where to start
Would anyone know anyone thats been through this or know someone to speak to etc
I can get pictures of the part I need I think but basically I need brake shoes, the adjuster that goes with the shoes and by the feel of it some bushes for the rear torsion bar
Also wondering if they used a common make rather than their own in house brakes ?
Help
Thanks in advance
Paul
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Dec 11, 2011 15:00:10 GMT
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Dec 11, 2011 15:02:35 GMT
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Why do get the existing refurb'd/ relined?
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Dec 11, 2011 17:42:04 GMT
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I will be if I can sort the rest but don't want to go getting shoes relined until I can find the adjusters and shoes that are missing from the rear axle !
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Dec 11, 2011 21:07:38 GMT
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Rubery Owen may be able to help? Looks loke you can get a number off the drum. Chances are the axles are from the same maker. ruberyowen.com/ |
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Dec 11, 2011 22:24:53 GMT
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Rubery Owen may be able to help? Looks loke you can get a number off the drum. Chances are the axles are from the same maker. ruberyowen.com/Never considered that the brakes and the axle may be by the same people  Sent them an email on their main address so hopefully will get put to the right person  |
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rodney
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is this a trailor?, could you not use modern car hubs and drums?? cars like puntos and focus have rear hubs that come off complete with 4 bolts,.
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facebook: rodney dean / rd transport  |
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Dec 12, 2011 15:46:23 GMT
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It is a trailer but all the brakes are bar operated not hydraulic so id still need to convert the cylinders somehow  |
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Dec 12, 2011 22:10:05 GMT
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Looks like Lockheed trailer brake parts to me. Have a measure of the diameter and look at either of these suppliers , I've had good service from both: www.trailertek.com/acatalog/Lockheed_Spares.htmlwww.wilmond.co.uk/acatalog/Lockheed_Brake_Spares.htmlFor some reason the brake shoes are quite expensive. Note that trailertek (and most other trailer part suppliers) have the price for a wheel set. Wilmond have a great price of £42 for an axle set (if you happen to have the 8" diameter type) I hope that helps |
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Dec 12, 2011 23:43:41 GMT
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Looks like Lockheed trailer brake parts to me. Have a measure of the diameter and look at either of these suppliers , I've had good service from both: www.trailertek.com/acatalog/Lockheed_Spares.htmlwww.wilmond.co.uk/acatalog/Lockheed_Brake_Spares.htmlFor some reason the brake shoes are quite expensive. Note that trailertek (and most other trailer part suppliers) have the price for a wheel set. Wilmond have a great price of £42 for an axle set (if you happen to have the 8" diameter type) I hope that helps Thats is some great news ;D  Good spot and links ! Just need to hunt down a drum and work out how to fix the play in the axle and I'm a very happy elf  |
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Dec 13, 2011 13:42:05 GMT
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Just a recap of what I now know for sure : The brakes are 100% Lockheed and after measuring the drums the internal size looks to be 10 inch I can find the shoes and possibly the springs for the 10 inch setup but I'm a bit stuck on the adjusters - they only seem to be sold for 7 inch and 8 inch setups so I'm wondering if the 8 inch adjusters were then used on my 10 inch brakes ? Also I'm trying to find if the Morris 1000 or Austin brakes are of this size as they will be alot cheaper  The axle seems to be dismantable going by general opinion but not quite sure how that is yet. Id like to get it apart to see if it needs a rubber bush or bearing etc Progress though |
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Dec 13, 2011 23:10:48 GMT
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Erm, Wilmond's site lists the adjusters as "Micram adjuster for Lucas 8", 9" and 10" brakes" for £11.94 each. And they have springs too. And the expander.
S3 Land Rovers have 10" diameter drums, so might be worth a look?
So, is this the type of axle that uses a metal strip as a torsion bar, rather than the usual way of having the suspension arm moulded into a rubber block? If so, I guess you'll have to strip it down and see what's worn out. If you can't find spares, perhaps a machine shop could sort you out.
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Dec 13, 2011 23:39:11 GMT
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Erm, Wilmond's site lists the adjusters as "Micram adjuster for Lucas 8", 9" and 10" brakes" for £11.94 each. And they have springs too. And the expander. S3 Land Rovers have 10" diameter drums, so might be worth a look? So, is this the type of axle that uses a metal strip as a torsion bar, rather than the usual way of having the suspension arm moulded into a rubber block? If so, I guess you'll have to strip it down and see what's worn out. If you can't find spares, perhaps a machine shop could sort you out. Oh yea Ive been looking at far too many different sites ! I'm not sure what it has to be honest as ive never deal with torsion bars before so everything is new to me - I just don't want to undo something and then it all goes twang and wont go back together |
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Dec 17, 2011 21:49:53 GMT
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Well I bit the bullet today and took it all apart  Not as hard as expected to be honest and I now know where the play is ! Basically rather than having a bearing at the hub end of the torsion bar it has a collar of some sort that must just be lubricated by grease so over time they have dried and worn giving me the play. So next question is how do I go about removing the old collar, smoothing off the hub spindle end part along with tube part and then getting a new one of the right size ? don't really know where to start with sourcing them as not sure what they are made of or what size they should beor even what they are called ! Help ! All the axles out  The tube end with the collar still in there  |
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Dec 28, 2011 20:30:35 GMT
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Well all bushes finally out and leart a few things doing that ! Big thanks to everyone that gave ideas and solutions to getting them out Seems there are two in each side - one looks to be the bearing and the other seems to be the grease ring / spreader. More suprising though is that they are both plastic ! The play is on the inside of the outer rings so I'm going to try and get a set of them but where the hell do you get these special plastic bearings from or where would make them ? Here are some pictures incase anyone else comes accross this searching for info : Axle with no more inserts :  Cleaned bare spindle that now does not look too bad so will get a light sand / polish :  The spindle with both the bearings on it - just need to find some now :  |
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Jan 14, 2012 20:45:11 GMT
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Update ! Managed to get some bushes made up in bronze in the week so spent all day today fitting them in the axles then reaming them out and then refitting the torsions bars and hub spindles. This is what they look like fitted and shiny  Now to order the brakes for next weeks fun in the cold ! |
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Jan 22, 2012 20:38:11 GMT
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Bit more progress yesterday All the torsion bars back in along with the hubs and backplates. All have been cleaned and regreased. Removed all the grease nipples, cleaned, refitted and filled up ! Then began trying to sort and refit the braking system from scratch. I say from scrath as half of it was missing, the other half previouslly fitted wrong and ive never touch rod trailer brakes before ! Finnaly got every single adjuster unsiezed and I now think ive got it all fitted in the right place but am not sure what order to adjust it all in ? Now I'm just waiting for my brakes and a clevis pins to turn up for next weeks action ! Thanks to all the help that everyone has given me  |
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Jan 29, 2012 15:54:19 GMT
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Thanks Ive tried looking but the only ones I can find are to do with military stuff Landy and 4x4 clubs seem the places with the most info ! Fitted all the rear axle brakes so just waiting for the front axle shoes to be relined by a kind forum member Having never adjusted trailer or rob brakes before I'm finding it rather hard to get a good adjustment without the experience of knowing how they should be ! Picture of the nice clean bits :  |
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May 20, 2012 16:09:58 GMT
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Well the axles are done, the brakes are done and the lights redone from scratch so thanks for all the advice Test fitted the car on and all is nice and snug as expected and just a few issues to overcome now - hence the post I'm going to need a jockey wheel but going by the big selection and price differences I'm a bit stumped on whats the best (read as cheapest) option ! Also as the car is low and the mudguards are high they are rather close to the door so would like to raise the bed on the points where the tyres sit rather than the whole bed. Ive got some old flat bed marine ply base I can use and also a pair of 4x4 waffle boards but wondered if anyone has had this issue or any ideas how to over come it ? |
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May 20, 2012 23:06:43 GMT
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Hi-If you look at brian james or indespension transporters they have mudguards that hinge down to allow for door opening.Looking at your pic above you could do the same by removing a bolt/screw from your mudguard.I had a similar issue years ago with a racecar on a transporter,low car door banging the side rails of the trailer.I cut some 9"x2" planks into shortish 12-18" lengths,cut the ends at an angle to give a ramp effect and bolted them to the runners of the transporter in the places where the car's wheels would be when it was loaded.I only did the driver's side of the trailer.You could also just winch the car on,tie it down and go,but if it's still running it's much quicker to drive them on!
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