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ive got a 1997 VW T4 van which ive converted into a camper, using a correct 3 seater rear seat from a caravelle with a middle lap belt.
now its in I'm thinking about seat belts for the other 2 seats ie the outside ones.
now lap belts would be easy but ive got a few questions, am I allowed them? are they actually safe?
if I'm not allowed them and ive got to go 3 point belts can I use non inertia ones so I can use the existing seat belt anchor points on the seat base and have welded to the frame a top mount too
Ta
Dan
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Last Edit: Dec 8, 2011 19:30:55 GMT by mortcars
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If you've got the caravelle seat in the "normal" place, then there are mounts built in the shell to take an inertia reel belt - The reel down at the bottom, and the pivot up top. Neither hole is threaded, if I remember correctly, but just put a nut/spreader plate on the back (a quid or so off ebay).
The "proper" seatbelts supplied by VW for use in the rear of a caravelle are pretty much identical to the ones used in the front of a T25, which cost about £25/30 a pair. Probably easier to source since the caravelle rear seats go for silly money sometimes.
Personally I don't like lap belts at all. I've seen crash dummy videos and read enough about them to put me off.
As for legality, I'm not 100% sure either way. We've bought a few t4s which came with professionally installed crew seating in the back, and they had lap belts for all 6 passengers.
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My MOT man allways said if it's a commercial or a camper and NOT a minibus anything behind the front seats is not tested? my crew cab recovery had no belts at all in the rear and he never even looked in there?
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My MOT man allways said if it's a commercial or a camper and NOT a minibus anything behind the front seats is not tested? my crew cab recovery had no belts at all in the rear and he never even looked in there? That's what I thought, a mate of mine added extra seats in the back of his T2 camper (1971) with no belts, MOT man said the same thing. I would have thought a T4 would have the necessary anchor points already fitted at the factory as some were made into minibuses (?) |
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I'm pretty sure that 1997 vans (transit etc) came with 3 point seat belts all across all seats. I would be very surprised if you be allowed anything but full 3 point inertia reel belts in the front of the van.
Does it have air bags in the dash?
If so I think you are also supposed to have pretensioners on the floor of the inertias to 'pull' you back from the air bag.
Sorry. Can of worms maybe?
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not looking at front, rear only, don't really want inertia as they are too big and ive fitted it all out now but forgot about the belts, think I'm going 3 point static belts for the rear eventually
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