rizlam
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Hi everyone My TA22 Celica's heating (which is operated by mechanical levers, no electric dash components) is a bit dead with a leaky valve and even when functioning, is at best quite arthritic. Can people recommend a good generic upgrade for in-car heating in a retro motor? Even if I have to lose the mechanical levers and go to a butchered donor system, that would be fine, so long as it's fairly straightforward and will still give me enough hot air to send to the windows/floor/face. TIA!  Stephen |
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MrSpeedy
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www.vintagediesels.co.uk
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There are a couple of units available from 'Car builder solutions' and 'Vehicle wiring products' etc, aimed at the kit car market. Whether you can integrate one of them into your car tho I don't know.
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rizlam
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Cheers for the link to Car Builder Solutions. Didn't know about them. Some ideas there - thanks.
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I've seen a few kit cars fitted with Mini heater boxes. I guess they like them cos they're cheap and self contained, but I wouldn't have thought they would chuck out an awful lot of heat. However I do have a recon one going spare as it doesn't fit under the seats in the back of my van so PM me if you're interested. (Looks just like this):  |
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i've heard that polo heaters are used quite often.
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Forget the little 12v heaters as they are a waste of time. I tried one just for demisting the screen in my old Land Lover and it struggled to clear anything more than a small patch around 4" round ! I've got another better version I intend using on my petrol powered mobility buggy project when I build a full winter body but don't expect miracles.
I'd say source another Celica core and then get a radiator specialist to check flow rate or recondition as that will be best solution.
Paul h
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This is something I've been thinking of too, and I remember the Polo heater being mentioned elsewhere. I found this nw.rhocar.org/poloheater.htm |
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Mini heaters with a new matrix whack out a colossal amount of heat. I used to drive a westfield 7 with a mini heater under the dash and even with the aero screens it was always toasty. Highly recommended from me.
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ChrisT
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This is something I've been thinking of too, and I remember the Polo heater being mentioned elsewhere. I found this nw.rhocar.org/poloheater.htmHave been using a polo heater, albeit cut down considerably with a different matrix in, on the manta for years now, originally for space saving but it is a good upgrade. How about these...... www.t7design.co.uk/ |
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I've been very much wondering about those ones from T7 design, but I can't seem to find any stock info on say a mini heater, and the BTU's it pumps out. Little concerned as to the giant CPU cooling fan they seem to use rather than a proper cylinder fan but then I guess...it's lightweight. Which I want.
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djefk
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Rather than going to all the trouble of trying to transplant an aftermarket setup or one from another car, I'd be amazed if the easiest solution isn't to get your original setup working as good as new - As has been said if you get your original heater unit reconditioned with a new matrix and foam seals plus a new valve (google should turn up a couple of options for specialists) then knowing how cold parts of Japan can get I'm confident you'll be more than satisfied with the results
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djefk - in my case atleast, it's more a case of 'bare minimum that i can get away with' while retaining the ability to defrost a windscreen...i've learnt to be pretty touch here in the Great White North, but in trying to make a lightweight beastie, ridding the aircon/heat is something that I have been wanting to do for a while.
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rizlam
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Dec 12, 2011 17:17:51 GMT
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Rather than going to all the trouble of trying to transplant an aftermarket setup or one from another car, I'd be amazed if the easiest solution isn't to get your original setup working as good as new - As has been said if you get your original heater unit reconditioned with a new matrix and foam seals plus a new valve (google should turn up a couple of options for specialists) then knowing how cold parts of Japan can get I'm confident you'll be more than satisfied with the results djefk - cheers but I've posted here AFTER the days of googling and asking elsewhere for the bits needed to do this stock. Currently I'm bypassing the valve which (due to how cold it is all the time at present) is a perfectly good frig, but obviously that's not a long term solution! Some more great ideas here though - cheers everyone |
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djefk
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Dec 14, 2011 13:36:08 GMT
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Ok in that case ignore the above: From your original post I thought you were thinking about a custom / transplanted system without considering reconditioning what's already there first.
I'm surprised an exhaustive search has turned up zilch however- There must be some outfit around that specialises in this sort of thing (or at the very least you can get the matrix rebuilt by a rad specialist and rebuild yourself using appropriate foam and lengths of universal seal strips cut to size) ??
Re: your leaking valve, is it mounted on the engine or bulkhead?
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Dec 14, 2011 21:11:41 GMT
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rizlam
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Ok in that case ignore the above: From your original post I thought you were thinking about a custom / transplanted system without considering reconditioning what's already there first. Oh no, I'm still after this, I just wanted to know any solutions in the short term; and if my existing system is likely to be salvageable. It's now only blowing cold air, and pretty arthritically at that. Cheers for all your help |
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