Pearl Finishes over Turquoise - I need some help

Hello, yes, 'tis I! No big surprises finding you in here.

This is to take its place next to my Lightweight and a W114 Merc hopefully.

I am bit worried about Candy and some of the house of Kolor themes because oif what you mentioned re whole panel repairs. Am I to understand that pearls do not have that need.

This is a violet pearl over Turquoise base:



Thought this might make the car a bit more modern in looks without showing up as a major difference when the doors, boot or bonnet is opened?

Would it diminish the chrome that is on the car...I have NO imagination, I tell you!

Or imagine a Navy/midnight pearl or a Red with a violet pear to set off the chrome...yum....

Regards
Udhi

Hi James,
Would appreciate a looksy, or photies of yours. Let me know please. Incl a price.

Thanks you, that is one vote for the violet pearl clearcoat.....just need to find out costs now.

email photies if poss, to asuran25, I am on hotmail.
Udhi

Hi Udhi, nice one. Hope the Lightweight is doing good.

Pearls would also be a slight pain to repair I would think, the trouble is like candy if you overlay the effects gets heavier (candies get darker). But it depends on planned use. My car's a daily so roof is getting flake & candy, keeping the body in easy-fix colours. A nice day/show car wouldn't matter so much.

Slacker has a good point. It'd make a pretty damn cool 'mild custom', I'd love to set about one. Scallops would suit it really well. Lose a little trim and stuff but not much. Some of these scallops are a bit wild but here's the general idea, link

cheers
Bill

OK. Please don't read this in a schoolmaster's voice, but...

one of my pet peeves - that is not a flat turquoise. I can see it shining from here. It is a gloss finish. It is a solid colour. Flat refers to the level of deglossing, eg what is called a satin would typically be a 30% flat.

Next up, I'm a House of Kolor trained sprayer, certificate to prove it LOL.

If you paint a House of Kolor Kandy you can't just drop it on an existing paint. For a start Kandy needs a metallic or pearl base to work properly. You can apply it over white or black but thats a "special case". Next up it has to be applied wet on wet. I can't think of a Kandy or Candy which doesn't work that way but I don't know every product on the market. Thirdly HOK has designed its Kandy range to work exclusively with its own basecoats. Painters who apply HOK Kandy over any other brand of basecoat may experience reactions and de-lamination is quite common problem.

The correct procedure for a House of Kolor Kandy paint job is to bare metal the car, then use the HOK epoxy, HOK high build primer, HOK sealer of the appropriate colour, HOK metallic or pearl basecoat, then the Kandy and then the clear.

You can use Kandy concentrates in clear in the same way as you would use a dry pearl, but this is not "warranteed" for use other than in an approved HOK based system.

HOK recommend bare metal as otherwise you end up with very thick paint on the car and this is less stable when heat cycling (hot days, cold nights) and for vibration or shock (driving, slamming a door, etc.)

HOK have designed all their products with high thickness in mind whereas most car paint is designed to be used as little as possible. Hense you shouldn't mix the two. (HOK official guidance, in the real world many people successfully use other brand primers etc)

At the end of the day a Kandy paint job isn't cheap so unless you want to do it properly I wouldn't bother. And that means windows out, stripped doors, etc.

Also also, panel repair of a Kandy is a bit "hopeful". Recommended procedure is to respray the whole side of the vehicle which is effected.

Other brands of Candy are available of course, but unless its water based then the application isn't far of the same trick. Old school acrylic candies are even harder work. The waterbased ones are quite "trick" but again need to be used as part of their own system.

Pearls can work better over solid colours but unless you know the base you have there is not going to react or otherwise be a problem with the stuff you lay over it... Using a 1K clear is a
good way to avoid reaction. You could also use an intercoat clear (AKA a blender) as these are usually pretty inert and top it off with 2K clear.

Pearl over solid colour might work. Might look very odd and not work.

At the minimum you want to respray the colour - and you may as well do it in a metallic version of your colour there at this point and then I'd go with a wet on wet application of the pearl over that.

Or just buy a pearl paint where they have a mica type pearl actually in the paint itself.

Its hard to do paint without making a lot of effort. Or spending a fair amount of money. or both. When you are talking about custom paint that's even more the case.

Your paint looks better than anything currently on any of my cars LOL

I have to say if you cut corners with paint you will get a poor finish especially if you want a pearl most custom paints will show imperfections more than standard straight paints . leaving the engine bay is fine but I would seriously reconsider not removing the glass for a paint if you get a build up of paint (which you will do with a custom finish) it will spoil the look of the car .
done right the car will look great with what you have described . I have have done pearl finishes over many different colours and you really don't need a lot of pearl to get a great effect remember though if your going for a pearl over a straight finish to make sure the straight colour is a base coat and not a finish gloss or the pearl will delaminate in no time . good luck with what you decide the idea sounds great

just for info my van is painted in HOK shimerin base with a non HOK 2k clear with no problems the key i have found over the years is to use a heavy solids clear and not a standard medium solids one could save you a bundle on HOK paint finishes as their clear don't cover for toffee , colours are some the best out there though

i use specialist paints at the moment and a few of there candy paints react using non specialist paints silver base

Smart My Minx, although I've got some gold shimmer so might use that, gonna do some test bits over the weekend. Lace just arrived today

Nice, I struggled to find good lace (what a strange conversation ;D), what I got's not great but we'll see.
Got a Rides thread on the Passat? If so I'll mark that and watch for green flakiness