86mike
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Nov 15, 2011 17:01:46 GMT
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Yesterday morning on the way to work I rear ended a car at 20 mph or so causing a shocking amount of damage to her car. My car got of relatively lightly in comparison, just cosmetic damage to the bumper lights and bonnet. Her car which was a 1998 Escort was mashed in at the back and will likely be a write off. Thankfully nobody was hurt. My main question is, is it likely that the Lady will get a decent price for her car or will the insurance company try to rip her off? Secondly does anyone know what a "normal" time scale is for my car to be repaired through the insurance?
Thanks in advance for you help.
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Nov 15, 2011 17:14:33 GMT
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is it likely that the Lady will get a decent price for her car or will the insurance company try to rip her off? Far too many unknown variables for us to be able to answer that for you! As far as insurance payout timescales etc go, a few years ago when someone bumped into the back of our MX-5 and it needed a little work, the whole shebang was done and dusted on the other guy's insurance within about three weeks. But I have no idea if that's representative of the norm. (It was a case of: take car to approved bodyshop for quote, send quote to his insurers, wait for the go-ahead, take it back to the bodyshop for the work to be carried out, done.)
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Nov 15, 2011 17:26:43 GMT
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A guy i know though work was hit 3 weeks ago.
They had him fixed up in less than two weeks, his whiplash compo in less than one week!
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Nov 15, 2011 17:39:21 GMT
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My gf went in to a lapost, took 3 months to pay out, fully comp, total joke, been and gon now I'll get a picture.. ![](http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss9/RetroHomeSlice/Gillies%20yaris/670.jpg) ![](http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss9/RetroHomeSlice/Gillies%20yaris/669.jpg) ![](http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss9/RetroHomeSlice/Gillies%20yaris/668.jpg) Havent looked at them for a while, looks proper bad in the pics, but it was much worse in real life...
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86mike
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Nov 15, 2011 18:15:50 GMT
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Thanks for the help guys, hopefully it'll take nearer the two weeks fingers crossed. @quirky-Classics how on earth did she manage that? Looks serious i hope no one was hurt.
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Nov 15, 2011 18:29:02 GMT
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Probably be cheaper to offer to buy her a new 98 Escort they are pennies (I sold one earlier this year for £200!) Did the lamp post fall over? I'd imagine the local authority recharged your insurance for the damage, which holds things up. Lamp post itself is £1200 around here and then there's edf connections etc rarely get change from £2k for hitting one!!! I've seen some wiped out lamp posts with little damage to the car! I've also seen it the other way around ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png)
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Last Edit: Nov 15, 2011 18:32:49 GMT by skinnylew
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86mike
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Nov 15, 2011 18:32:51 GMT
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I did consider just that for a while but once i had seen the damage to my car in the daylight i knew it would cost a lot to repair, so insurance was a must sadly. I don't know if there is any way to find out what settlement she gets once it's all finished.
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Nov 15, 2011 18:37:37 GMT
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My experience is they pay the 'current market value', but I guess it depends on the policy.
Couple of guys at work had cars written off and had to give evidence to the value of their car, going on autotrader etc for similar models and emailing links through. Seemed a bit of a strange way of diong it at the time.
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Nov 15, 2011 19:26:30 GMT
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I had two accidents in 7 months both times losing the vehicle, insurance took about 4 months to clear, on both.
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Nov 15, 2011 19:32:15 GMT
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You should be able to find out the cost of the third party claim, n fact you'll need to as when you try and get any insurance quotes in the next few years they'll ask you the cost of the claim.
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Nov 15, 2011 19:48:40 GMT
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Keep the pressure on them and do it in writing, put something in writing every day if you can. A stamp a day won't break the bank. Be a bit of a nuisance, they'll want rid of you. Don't worry about hacking the company off, they can't really delay the process to wind you up, the regulators have guideline time limits and the insurers get shizzy-shizz if they push them too far without good reason. Unless your car is seriously rare or you've come up with a bonkers reason why you're not to blame having run into someone, there shouldn't be much delay. If you do take a loan car off them, make sure it's the insurance company paying for it directly and make sure anything you sign is not a rental agreement in your name. www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/scotland/motorist_left_with_29k_bill_for_courtesy_car_1_1919118I worked in insurance until recently. Heard an awesome story in the summer about a third party only claim against the driver (our guy) of a £500 VW (not sure which model) who stuffed into a Bentley Conti GT. The repair cost was huge but not in excess of the figure where they'd write it off but the costs incurred in renting the owner another Bentley were eye watering because of a delay in repainting his own. ![](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wekRpCfMbvY/TRdjibEmcQI/AAAAAAAAAkY/LLT9h1mWhZQ/s1600/Bentley.jpg) ![](http://www.burnham-on-sea.com/news/2008/rectory-rd-crash-1.jpg)
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Last Edit: Nov 15, 2011 19:50:52 GMT by Battles
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Nov 15, 2011 19:52:08 GMT
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My main question is, is it likely that the Lady will get a decent price for her car or will the insurance company try to rip her off? Why the interest in the other party? Was she hot?
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86mike
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Nov 15, 2011 20:16:39 GMT
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She wasn't hot at all:-) Just thought that If i had hit her and she wasn't able to replace her car with the money she will get from it that it wouldn't be fair.
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Nov 15, 2011 21:08:42 GMT
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As above might be cheaper in the long run to buy her a replacement...
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Nov 15, 2011 21:24:15 GMT
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A guy I know though work was hit 3 weeks ago. They had him fixed up in less than two weeks, his whiplash compo in less than one week! It's a terrible idea to settle a whiplash claim so quickly. Whiplash can take up to two years to heal. If it doesn't heal within that time period you will likely suffer from it for the rest of your life. Of course if you're destined to suffer these symptoms for the rest of your life, the payout from the insurers will be a great deal bigger than if the symptoms went away after six months or a year. Of course, it is in the insurer's interest to settle the claim as quickly as possible for a lower amount.
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Nov 15, 2011 21:39:00 GMT
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As above might be cheaper in the long run to buy her a replacement... It would be if i was happy to leave my car un repaired but as i've only had it two weeks and it's quite new i think it would be best to get it repaired properly. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Such is life.
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Nov 15, 2011 22:02:46 GMT
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A guy I know though work was hit 3 weeks ago. They had him fixed up in less than two weeks, his whiplash compo in less than one week! It's a terrible idea to settle a whiplash claim so quickly. Whiplash can take up to two years to heal. If it doesn't heal within that time period you will likely suffer from it for the rest of your life. Of course if you're destined to suffer these symptoms for the rest of your life, the payout from the insurers will be a great deal bigger than if the symptoms went away after six months or a year. Of course, it is in the insurer's interest to settle the claim as quickly as possible for a lower amount. I was thinking exactly that, however as about 98% of whiplash claims now seem to be complete and utter made up curse word, it's probably for the best that they pay out that quickly. In fact if someones so confident that they can tell the extent of the injury within a week I'd have said there's a good chance they're talking curse word anyway. I'm no expert, but from everyone I've known who's actually suffered from a real whiplash injury (including my mum) they've got progressively worse over a few weeks after the accident, not just "[holds neck]ahhhrrgghh whiplash, claim please![/holds neck]" like most people seem to manage. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) I must say, It seems very decent of you to be worried about the 3rd party receiving the payout they deserve. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) A friend of mine recently received a fair bit more than his car was worth when someone wrote it off, so they won't always try and rip people off (just most of the time).
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Nov 15, 2011 22:22:40 GMT
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She wasn't hot at all:-) Just thought that If I had hit her and she wasn't able to replace her car with the money she will get from it that it wouldn't be fair. There's no reason why anyone should get ripped off by the insurers. The principle of Indemnity is what applies here - the idea that she should be put back in the position she was in before you hit her. She had a perfectly good '98 Escort and the settlement needs to be enough to enable her to go out and buy one just the same or close enough. Needless to say, the Engineer's valuation out of Glass's won't be enough, this is why people end up disputing the figure. As already posted, she'll need to look on Autotrader and supply evidence. Case in point - my Fiesta got rear-ended a few years back. Cost me £1100 a month or so earlier from the auction. Engineer phoned me up and asked me how much I paid so I told him straight. He then asked me how much I thought it was worth to which I replied £1900. He agreed and I got a cheque accordingly. Helps to be a broker doing this stuff day in day out though I suppose . . .
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86mike
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Nov 15, 2011 22:25:07 GMT
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Thanks Robin, I guess It just seems like the right thing to do :-) It was my fault 100% and i don't think someone else should suffer because had a talent failure.
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Nov 15, 2011 23:56:37 GMT
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It was my fault 100% and I don't think someone else should suffer because had a talent failure. A remarkably honest and gentlemanly attitude. Maybe the best thing you can do for her is to make sure that she's got evidence of the value of her Escort and offer to coach her with the insurance vultures if she seems the sort who might accept the first offer.
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